That 3.5M$ 1970 Hemi Cuda vert ... ?

2018? Mecum auction ... what’s it worth today ??

Cant help on the value today...didn't it end up in the Brother's Collection?....it was in fact a 1971 Hemicuda convertible

I went and saw that car at the auction preview in Kenmore Washington (I lived 4 miles away) a few days before it sold for $405,000. Car had the black dash pad at the time and people said it was a factory error, sometime since it got a blue pad.
I remember sanding scratches telegraphing through the paint above the passenger rear quarter.
The $405k shocked everyone. Made the local news.

Drug seizure car, and the seized a whole lot more than that.
And yeah....it’s a 71.

It was 2014

I got clue what it's "worth"...but I couldn't resist:

Is that the one that was built up from an upper cowl ?

No

I had a chance to buy that blue 71 convertible back in early 80's out of georgia for $25k it had a wrecked front fender with a NOS one to go with the car to fix it!!

You sure about that? This car seems to have a pretty well documented history as starting out and spending the years in the Pacific Northwest.

Yes it went up there from Ga. I am sure. It got caught up in with the Feds up there and most people know about that part of the cars History and after. I had the original add at one time where it was for sale. I really need to take a serious look for it.

The car sold around 2000 at a James Murphy auction in Kenmore, WA. It was sold along with a FK5 1970 Hemi Charger. The guy who bought it at that auction sold it at Mecum a few years ago for 3.5 million.

Dad owned a 70 hemi cuda convertible around 1980. We were at Mopar at Englishtown in the 90's when we saw it. Dad walked up and told me he used to own the car. The owner, who I think was wheelchair bound, scoffed at the comment.Then dad gave all the details. The guy was shocked as he had the history of it 2 owners after dad, but not before. A guy in these parts called dad who purchased it for 3500 bucks, 2 weeks later dad sold it for 5500. The car was spread around this guys house. He gathered everything and assembled it so it was a complete piece. Next guy did nothing to it and sold it for 13, then it escalated from there. Was cool to give the guy the history on his car.

Like Dad said, 1980, 2k was a LOT of money, at a time when money was at a premium.

What color combo was it..red on red ?

Sold new in Oregon, apparently to the Cartoonist Russell Meyers, who lived in Oregon.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cu...or-35-million-most-expensive-mopar-ever/

Russell Meyers owned it before the drug dealer (when it was a $250,000 car) - car was once restored in CO then again in CA, but appears to have been an east coast car originally - the "original owner" registered here on Moparts as a "DuPont" once upon a time .....

NOT in the Brothers' Collection

from the 2014 Mecum Seattle auction ad:

I will have to ask dad, but that sounds right.

The 71 Hemicuda convert was owned by Jay Soneff in Denver at one time.
The wheelchair bound guy with the red/red 70 Hemicuda convert was likely Tom Guzmich who along with his brother Bob owned it at one time..
....it also belonged to Wayne Hartye later for years

It was red on red. Said it was the first one built (that's what he was told). Said it was first one sold for a million dollars, he thinks.

Yes, Wayne Hartye from NJ. owned it years ago. I bought a '70 6pk 4 speed Cuda convertible from him.

The triple red 1970 Hemicuda conv. was owned at one time (around 1984) by Paul Suloff I believe. I took photos of it at a dealer show in Columbus, OH. The car was stunning. I wonder what Suloff sold it for??? (he did not own it for a very long time)

Youz numbers guyz are a hoot !

3.5 then .... whats FMV now ?

About 12x your net worth.

Dad said he bought for 3500, sold for 5500, then sold for around 17 I think dad said and then 75k. I'll ask him today who those people were.

CLUELESS as usual PacMan .....

You have NO IDEA what my net worth is...

To answer my own question... I would imagine maybe the FMV now would be something like 1.5 based on what I’ve seen on the auction block in the last year or so.

BUT AGAIN... you numbers guyz would know bestER.... and what I said before was not a diss.

You wish you knew, More than the average appel eating bear

Having seen a fair amount of expensive/valuable cars that were essentially shelf models, I wonder how many HemiCudas actually run & drive properly ?
Hopefully all of 'em, but I'd bet some mostly sit like wheeled bank accounts.

Is that the car that had a leaky trans since new??

IIRC that 70 red on red Hemicuda convertible was the magazine roadtest car when it was new.

I remember reading that magazine test article when the car was new..
And yes the test driver did mention there was a small puddle of trans fluid under the car at the time he picked it up.
Likely unrelated to the leak, but the car came off the assembly line and was delivered without the automatic hemi transmission cooler having been installed.
I believe it is still that way today

Currently with the trend for hemi convertibles and specialty models in 1968-1971 category, for 2021 estimates, I would say about 15% increase in it's original 2018 price.

Joe Oldham???

yes

I believe that car was a Goodyear display car here during the Street Machine Nationals in 83-84. Had a sign saying they bought the rarest of rare car muscle car.

How can a convertible be “triple red”? Are we counting the boot cover?

Hope I'm not hi jacking the 3.5 MM thread, but to respond on the red on red cuda. I owned it for a couple years in the early 80s. Mopar Action did an article on it several years ago which featured the lineage of owners. Called it the $5MM Cuda. I bought it from Andy Boltz who got it from Herb. Andy told me Herb found it in a trailer park. I had several E Body Hemi cars but always wanted a Hemi Vert. Car was apart and I resorted it. Body was amazing, maybe two small spots behind tires, floors perfect. Body work was easy. Back then You had to find parts at swap meets and bone yards. Year One was the only place that had Mopar parts back then, ie seat covers, emblems, decals. Replaced carpet and one seat cover. Arlen Vanke did the engine, Jim Pace fixed the trans and stopped leaks. First show was Street Machine Nats in Indy. I worked for Goodyear so put it in there booth. Hot Rod shot if for the magazine there and it made top ten list in the year end Magazine.

For some reason I wanted a Hemi more rare than 1 of 14. I found a Challenger 4 spd plum crazy car and purchased that in mid 80s, it was 1 or 9. Sold the Cuda to Wayne Hardy for $35K. Then eventually sold Challenger to Bill Drake in up state NY.

Had fun with them, but I didn't have big collections and was always looking for the next challenge. Any car I had that I sold for more than I paid was a good deal, but if there was ever one I wish I kept it was the red on red car. Shoulda Coulda Woulda

We were at that show, it was a great show and a beautiful Hemi Cuda My dad almost bought a green 69 RR convertible, 383 spee, still regrets not buying that one.

The red on red 1970 would be THE cream of the crop for me

Shaker lid?

The convertible top color? Though that cars top is black.
I have a Franklin mint model of that car, it probably gets driven about as much as the real car now!
Isn’t it in the Brothers collection?

Is this the red one that was found in junkyard ?? Love the color combo on this one...

I agree. The best one out there.

Herb told me he found it in a car port in a trailer park in the Carolina's

Do you know how to contact wayne hartye?
I own a 70 vert he bought new

I haven't seen Wayne in many years but he hailed from Pompton Lakes, NJ and I believe he still resides in that area.
Thanks to Paul for posting about owning the red/red car.
Again sorry to highjack the original post but I remember meeting Paul at the Mopar Nats through Walt Downer after he had just outfitted the convertible with all NOS F-60-15 Goodyear Polyglas he had sourced out,... long before the days of reproduction.

If you want, send me a pm, your box is full.

For some reason, I thought Mr. Hartye passed away?