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How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!*

Posted By: Guitar Jones

How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/22/20 01:31 PM

I know they aren't usually deadly but I still don't want to be bit by one and I sure don't want one of my dogs bit by one either. I already lost one dog to a pygmy rattler in FL, don't want to lose another one up here. Had to kill one last night in the backyard right behind the house. Dog went to sniff it and it struck at her but she jumped back in time. So you guys that know, what works best? Some kind of repellant or? We also have quite a few mice around here and I need to get rid of them as well but, it's woods so I realize they aren't going to be eliminated, just want to keep the population down and away from the home. Any and all help, suggestions and information is greatly appreciated, thank you.
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/22/20 05:54 PM

Here's a blog on keeping copperheads out of your yard.
https://www.innovativepest.com/blog/post/how-to-keep-copperhead-snakes-out-of-your-yard

A google search of "keeping copperhead snakes away" brings up a lot of different stuff.

https://www.countryliving.com/home-maintenance/cleaning/a30212354/how-to-get-rid-of-snakes/

https://bugwiz.com/get-rid-of-copperhead-snakes/
Posted By: AeroMonte

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/22/20 06:26 PM

The mice are the problem. No mice, no snakes. Keep the grass cut and put something out to kill the mice. Or you could get a couple of outdoor cats but get them fixed first. I have old cars everywhere but no snakes. The cats handle that real well.
Posted By: klunick

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/22/20 06:43 PM

Amazingly, all the snake repellent products basically say they don't work on X/Y/Z. Flat headed shovel works real good. Wood piles around here seem to be a hot spot for them. My neighbors dog got bit on the lip. He gave the dog Benedryl and her lip swelled up for a day or 2 but she was fine. Dogs seem to handle these things better than we might.
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/22/20 06:55 PM

Get rid of the food source ( aka mice ) = gets rid of the snakes

Look around your property. Trash piles , firewood / lumber stacks, loose grass clippings etc etc all attract mice as easy home dwellings

Out here its get rid of the pack rats = gets rid of rattle snakes
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/22/20 09:01 PM

Thanks guys. We know the mice are the problem but this is all thick woods around here. We keep the area around the house picked up and have been working on the rest of the property. There are two scrap piles left here from the previous owners but they are way, way on the back of the property. Going to start cleaning that up this winter after the vegetation dies off but it's far enough away from the house not to present a problem. We have a bunch of mice traps on order, don't want to put poison out because of the dogs and have been considering a couple cats. The neighbors tell us the copperheads have always been bad around here, one family with small children moved out after killing seventeen of them one year so, I'm pretty sure we can't get rid of all of the mice or snakes but anything would help.
Posted By: DirectSubjection

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/23/20 12:51 AM

Get a pet Secretary bird work
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/23/20 01:48 AM

Guinea hens are the ones you want, if you have some land. They will alert you and are supposed to surround the snakes when they find one. But yes, some good outdoor cats will take care of your mice problem. There are usually are quite a few that need a good home. Contact your local animal shelter.
Posted By: Twostick

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/23/20 03:32 PM

Add a Jack Russell terrier to you dog collection. Better than a cat for mice and I suspect more than a match for any snakes that cross its path.

Kevin
Posted By: GMP440

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/23/20 03:51 PM



As someone stated on a previous post; cats are really good. At our fire station we have 3 cats that live on the property. Never any rodent, snake or pest problems. The cats are fixed too. They are the best defense.
Posted By: JDMopar

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/26/20 02:26 AM

Catch a big ol black snake and set it loose on your place. It will eat the mice and kick the sheite out of the copper headed rattler moccasins! Seriously....Copperheads don't want no part of a big black snake.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/26/20 02:59 AM

I would kill ever one of them that comes onto your property and leave them lay around the yard to show the rest of them that some of their kind have NOT survive that yard.
Animals and snakes are not stupid work They will get the message up
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 12:15 PM

So now we have found the den. Copperheads come back to the same den every year so we need to do something about it but not sure yet what to do. We don't want to pour gasoline or anything like that in there as our well is on the same side of the house. Don't want to set it on fire and burn the mountain down, there is coal and natural gas around here. I've put snake repellant down but really I'd rather kill them off. We killed another the other day in this area and the neighbors tell us one family that lived here killed 17 of them one summer in this same area. They had small children so they moved out after that. Any ideas?
Posted By: BSharp

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 01:45 PM

Gas 'em with carbon monoxide? You've probably got a portable source.
Posted By: HoosierTA

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 03:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxfFfm_0GNY
Posted By: RTSrunner

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 05:20 PM

Dry ice in the hole will cut the oxygen supply. A friend has a dry ice company,he's used it on groundhogs effectively.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by RTSrunner
Dry ice in the hole will cut the oxygen supply. A friend has a dry ice company,he's used it on groundhogs effectively.




I’ve found that 22 shells work well on groundhogs too. I average about seven a year in my back yard. I don’t even have to throw them in the woods as the Coyotes and other creatures stop by nightly for a free meal.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by RTSrunner
Dry ice in the hole will cut the oxygen supply. A friend has a dry ice company,he's used it on groundhogs effectively.




I’ve found that 22 shells work well on groundhogs too. I average about seven a year in my back yard. I don’t even have to throw them in the woods as the Coyotes and other creatures stop by nightly for a free meal.

Bird shot in the 12 gauge is effective on snakes too if they come out. We ran a garden hose and hot water in it today. Water started to seep up from the patio 3 feet below the hole but no snakes came out.
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 07:02 PM

How about the deadly smoke bombs they used on ground hogs on farms ?

Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 07:34 PM

I will check on that.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 07:44 PM

Flex pipe, a running vehicle and some sand / gravel to plug the hole after the flex pipe is fed in.

Let the rig idle until snakes-no-more.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Alaskan_TA
Flex pipe, a running vehicle and some sand / gravel to plug the hole after the flex pipe is fed in.

Let the rig idle until snakes-no-more.

Excellent idea, just one question, gas or diesel?
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
I will check on that.


I called TractorSupply here ... guy said that stuff was banned ? .... not PC in this day and age ??

That exhaust pipe idea is a good one up
Posted By: justinp61

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 09:44 PM

Snakes generally hang around for one reason, food and most of the time it's mice.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
Excellent idea, just one question, gas or diesel?


Yes.

But exhaust from consumed jet fuel, kerosene, natural gas or propane would all work too.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 11:40 PM

Thanks Barry.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/27/20 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by justinp61
Snakes generally hang around for one reason, food and most of the time it's mice.

Understood and we are working on that as well but the fact that copperheads come back to the same den every year would mean they would still come back here to make baby snakes year after year so that is why I want them dead.

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Posted By: klunick

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/28/20 01:38 AM

CO2 Fire extinquisher. Then disassemble at your leisure.
Posted By: A12

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/28/20 03:10 AM

I don't know if this will work for your situation but it for sure will take care of a lot of bigger breathing varmints. Comes with fuses, light several, pitch them in cover the hole, Available at most any hardware, TSC, home improvement stores. Lots of YouTube videos, and it seems they are all successful getting rid of something with the giant destroyer "gasser".

Mike

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Posted By: maximus

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/28/20 11:31 AM

On the lighter side you can call Bill from Caddyshack to get rid of them for you.

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Posted By: 360view

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/28/20 11:43 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_contortrix#Feeding

You have to not only get rid of mice,
but voles, frogs, insects, and so forth.

Sample quote

Feeding
Roughly 90% of its diet consists of small rodents, such as mice and voles. It has also shown fondness for large insects and frogs, and though highly terrestrial, has been known to climb trees to gorge on emerging cicadas.

Copperhead populations may be reduced by non-venomous Eastern King Snakes
Lampropeltis getula
that feed on venomous copperheads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampropeltis_getula

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Posted By: A12

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/29/20 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by Alaskan_TA
Flex pipe, a running vehicle and some sand / gravel to plug the hole after the flex pipe is fed in.

Let the rig idle until snakes-no-more.


up
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/29/20 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by 360view
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_contortrix#Feeding

You have to not only get rid of mice,
but voles, frogs, insects, and so forth.

Sample quote

Feeding
Roughly 90% of its diet consists of small rodents, such as mice and voles. It has also shown fondness for large insects and frogs, and though highly terrestrial, has been known to climb trees to gorge on emerging cicadas.

Copperhead populations may be reduced by non-venomous Eastern King Snakes
Lampropeltis getula
that feed on venomous copperheads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampropeltis_getula

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Hmm, there is a large black snake around here about 5 foot in length and quite a few ring necks. I don't mind them, they are welcome to stay but, I was thinking more on the order of a mongoose. laugh2
Posted By: DirectSubjection

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/29/20 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by Guitar Jones

Hmm, there is a large black snake around here about 5 foot in length and quite a few ring necks. I don't mind them, they are welcome to stay but, I was thinking more on the order of a mongoose. laugh2



Lame! Try this and impress your friends laugh


Posted By: 1DGEMAN

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 08/29/20 02:07 PM

Copperheads are non aggressive snakes been living around them for 15 years. Most humans get bit when getting in the wood pile. If you make noise they slither away. Get rid of the mice. Have had a couple of dogs bit but just swell up for a day or two and they are fine. If I find them near the house I pick them up with shovel and take them back to the woods. A couple of nights ago I was out trying to eliminate a beaver in my lake and watched a copperhead come off the shore and swim into the lake. If you live in the woods you pay attention. I also have a large population of black snakes.



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Posted By: ChallengerTA

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/31/20 11:05 PM

New cars produce little to no Carbon Monoxide. You would have to idle for hours and hours to build up enough to be deadly and not sure you could build up enough.
Posted By: 70HemiGTX

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 08/31/20 11:45 PM

Call your State Game Commission or Wildlife management. Ask them to remove them or you will take care of them.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? - 09/01/20 12:05 AM

Copperheads come back to the same den every year, I live in the woods, 12 miles into the woods so taking them to the woods is just like leaving them here. In my research I have also found that copperheads are responsible for more snake bites, amputations and increasingly more fatalities because people get bad information that they usually aren't fatal so they don't get treated. Antivenom treatments are very expensive and usually require several treatments so people don't get treated or have their animals treated. I will not be taking that chance so elimination is the best and most practical procedure for me thank you.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/01/20 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by ChallengerTA
New cars produce little to no Carbon Monoxide. You would have to idle for hours and hours to build up enough to be deadly and not sure you could build up enough.

I used my old crew cab with a cammed 360 and slightly rich Holley. Idled it for four hours.
Posted By: Mr PotatoHead

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/01/20 12:12 AM

YOU live in there woods, wait till the copperheads lives matters gets wind of this. drumhit
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/01/20 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by 70HemiGTX
Call your State Game Commission or Wildlife management. Ask them to remove them or you will take care of them.

I would have to see a snake before calling them. And even at that it takes a half hour to get back here from the main road and the wildlife management is more than an hour away on top of that. Where that snake would be by then is anyones guess. Flat head shovel or 12 gauge with birdshot which ever is closer will be used.
Posted By: Mr PotatoHead

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/01/20 12:15 AM

Why not go to the pet store and buy some mice and XXX the mice and let the snakes eat some jacked up mice?

People buy or breed mice for there pet snakes all the time. Just do it in a different way.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/01/20 12:31 AM

Dogs are not tied up or fenced around here, don't want to poison mine or the neighbors dogs. My 2 neighbors are great people and we get along great, don't want any bad blood so I won't put out poison or poisoned mice. Besides, snakes don't eat dead meat.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/01/20 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Potatohead
YOU live in there woods, wait till the copperheads lives matters gets wind of this. drumhit

laugh2 This is my home they are the ones that have to leave. If they don't they will be dispatched for eternity.
Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/01/20 01:33 AM

Can you get a backhoe and dig the nesting hole out?
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/01/20 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Can you get a backhoe and dig the nesting hole out?

Not without destroying a bunch of other stuff. It's up against a concrete wall and the side of a mountain with an out cropping of rock. I'm going to fill it in and cover it over with some clean fill dirt. Throw some grass seed on it.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/01/20 06:27 PM

How about pouring a gallon of household ammonia and then a gallon of household bleach into their den work Don't breathe those fumes as those two mixed together make Chlorine gas, which can kill you and or damage your lungs shock
I learn that lesson on those household chemicals the hard way a long time ago by trying to clean some auto parts with them mixed realcrazy
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: How to get rid of copperhead snakes? *Den found!* - 09/02/20 10:37 AM

When we had gophers and other ground rodents in the 1960'-1970's, dad would wait til he seen a mound moving, run over to the garage, pull out a huge jug of acid (not sure what type) and poured it right on the mound. Lawn was dead in that spot for couple months, but usually only had one invader a year til they stopped altogether by 1974.


If you want to get rid of the snakes, try this this. Fill it with cement. It prevents them from coming back and digging it back out and will suffocate those that are in the hole. buckets of cement are easy to mix and carry over and don't leave poisons around for pets to get into. When done, cover the hole with dirt and forget about it. It's the best way. some snake holes can hold more than several dozen snakes and just gassing them may not do much.
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