67 426 Hemi engine color

Posted By: badblack68

67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/13/11 11:21 PM

If I remember correctly from a previous post, 1966 and 1967 426 Hemi`s were painted race Hemi orange. Is there a rattle can paint available in the correct shade that I might find in my local parts or hardware stores?

Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/13/11 11:43 PM

Correct, All Hemis through 1968 should be Race Hemi Orange, possible exceptions being LATE 68 engines MIGHT have been Street Hemi Orange (I've never seen a confirmed original though). Mopar used to sell a good match but thier paint is REALLY hit or miss on quality.

I highly reccomend Frank Badelsons mix, www.sixpackfrank.com, not available in rattle cans though

Posted By: badblack68

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/13/11 11:49 PM

Thanks Scott. I was hoping to just be able to pick up a rattle can or two locally. This isn`t going to be a concours correct car and something close enough would work for me. One of our local paint supply stores can mix just about any color and put it into a rattle can but I did`t even want to spring for that method. I`ll find something that will work without spending a small fortune. Looks like I will try the Mopar paint through my local Chrysler dealer.

Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/13/11 11:54 PM

Keep in mind that rattle cars are not cheap, $10-15.00 a can or so and you'll likely need 3-4 cans to cover a complete engine well. Franks paint is about $40.00 a quart, enough to spray several engines and a better product to boot. Doing the rough math Franks is a better deal on all sides.

Posted By: badblack68

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 12:14 AM

Scott, your correct but I don`t have a spray gun or a place to spray even if I did have a spray gun. Maybe I`ll talk to my body guy and have him squirt it when the car is at his shop. It`s best I don`t rush into painting it I guess. The Hemi is nearing completion and the car is going to be coming apart soon for a little body work and a repaint. I suppose what it boils down to is if I have the time to do a cheap job and then have to rework it I might just as well do a top quality job the first time and be done with it. Heaven knows we haven`t taken a single shortcut on the build of the engine so no sense cutting corners now.
I tried the link you posted for Franks website and it doesn`t work.

Posted By: hemi4speed

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 12:26 AM

Mark, I have some of Franks left over from mine should be maybe enough to do yours. Hell I'll even spray it for you. I'll see what I have.

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Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 12:54 AM

There you go!

Posted By: astjp2

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 01:14 AM

Frank's current price is 68 per pint. You will still need to get the activator and thinner, but his price is about par. Do a google search for 60626, its the code for the engine paint.

I just bought some PPG, 1 quart of 60626. PPG changed the formula a few years back and if you want the original color, you need to get the tints with lead in them. DP40 is now lead free, I got a quart of variprime, its still an acid ecthing primer.
Here is the PPG formula for PPG DCC 60626
DMC 920 223.4
DMC 906 376.7
DMC 902 387.3
DMC 909 733.3
DMC 907 1368.9

My mixer used grams, this formula might be in parts. It mixed just over 1 quart. I got it in concept acrylic urethane. For 1 quart of paint 101.00, activator, and thinner was another 87.00 The quart of variprime and hardner was another 100.00, for a grand total of 290.00
Tim

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Keep in mind that rattle cars are not cheap, $10-15.00 a can or so and you'll likely need 3-4 cans to cover a complete engine well. Franks paint is about $40.00 a quart, enough to spray several engines and a better product to boot. Doing the rough math Franks is a better deal on all sides.

Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 01:41 AM

I won't argue with what you spent, I just know what I paid. At any rate you are right, it was a pint, my mistake (which still paints a couple engines with ease).

Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 02:25 AM

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Correct, All Hemis through 1968 should be Race Hemi Orange, possible exceptions being LATE 68 engines MIGHT have been Street Hemi Orange (I've never seen a confirmed original though). Mopar used to sell a good match but thier paint is REALLY hit or miss on quality.

I highly reccomend Frank Badelsons mix, www.sixpackfrank.com, not available in rattle cans though

66 to Early 69 actually. My 11/68 built Hemi-X is the earlier paint.

Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 02:27 AM

Yea fish I would not doubt that a bit

Posted By: astjp2

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 02:59 AM

Scott, you did pay that amount, I just downloaded his catalog on friday, that is his current retail price.

Posted By: badblack68

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 03:25 AM

Thanks Rick. I`m going to have to coordinate this with Bob. You know how my junk driver cars turn out..... You`ve got more $$$ in your carbs than I have invested in my whole engine not including what I paid for the engine of course! I`m just trying to stay one step ahead of the engine builder and body shop. I may have to farm out the front and rear seat job so stay tuned.

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Mark, I have some of Franks left over from mine should be maybe enough to do yours. Hell I'll even spray it for you. I'll see what I have.

Posted By: badblack68

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 03:49 AM

Posted By: Hemidavey

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 04:02 AM

Try Rustoleum "safety orange". You'll like it. Comes in a tall silver can, you can get it anywhere and its a close match, really close. Holds up very well with the heat and fuel or oil.

Posted By: badblack68

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 04:06 AM

I`ll check it out. Thanks!

Posted By: 68jim

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 06:24 PM

This is my 68 motor that was painted "early/race" Hemi orange from Frank Badalson. It has held up very well so far.

Jim

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Posted By: chromedome426

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 06:44 PM

I'm confused now, Why do most online sources say 64-65 used race hemi orange and that 66-71 was street hemi orange. Mancini racing, Year One & Herbs are just 3 examples that say this.

Posted By: Hemidavey

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 06:57 PM

I've talked with several guys who collect Hemi cars and the consensus is that there is an "in between" color. My 66 was not a light as race hemi orange, but no where near as dark as later street hemo color. Mopar doesnt have the right stuff.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 07:17 PM

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Try Rustoleum "safety orange". You'll like it. Comes in a tall silver can, you can get it anywhere and its a close match, really close. Holds up very well with the heat and fuel or oil.

Is that a heat rated paint or are the hi heat paints just buzz words ? ?

Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/14/11 09:35 PM

Concerning the early and late Race Hemi Orange, I have not seen any significant color difference between samples of original paint parts from 64-68, I can only assume that the "Late" versions were just variables in either the paint samples matched to or a variable in the samples themselves, I HIGHLY doubt it was a special color formula. Frank sells two versions, IMO based on my original; paint parts samples the early version is the best match for any year that used Race Hemi Orange.

Posted By: Hemidavey

Re: 67 426 Hemi engine color - 11/15/11 02:11 AM

I don't think its heat rated. I bought some to spray a non related item and was surprised by the color. I have used it on a few engines, it looks great and sticks well. The latest engine has 4 hours on the test stand and 800 miles in the car, there is no discoloration or peeling. I run my Hemiis hard, I would think it would have failed by now. I'll try to remember(I'm old as dirt) to bring the # off the can to post here.

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