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Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling???

Posted By: MCB Restorations

Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 09/05/08 12:07 PM

If Mopar offered the original 14" trim ring again through the license program and the quality was good, what interest is there? Trying to understand the business case here. This part would come from original Chrysler tooling that has been slightly re-worked due to storage life damage.

Matt @ MCB
Posted By: AdamR

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 09/05/08 12:12 PM

Depends on price. I need a set of rings for my rallyes but I would quickly lose interest if they were priced at $100ea.
Posted By: captaindodge

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 09/05/08 04:36 PM

Do you know that the 14 inch trim ring #2875758 is special for 1969 because it has a lip on the inner part of the ring. This is the trim ring that should be in demand for Charger Daytona & 500 models (really all 69 models). Galen says it is held on by 4 clips on the back.
Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 09/06/08 12:15 AM

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Do you know that the 14 inch trim ring #2875758 is special for 1969 because it has a lip on the inner part of the ring. This is the trim ring that should be in demand for Charger Daytona & 500 models (really all 69 models). Galen says it is held on by 4 clips on the back.




Is that the ring that clips over the wheel edge and always runs into a wheel weight?
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 09/06/08 01:26 AM

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Do you know that the 14 inch trim ring #2875758 is special for 1969 because it has a lip on the inner part of the ring. This is the trim ring that should be in demand for Charger Daytona & 500 models (really all 69 models). Galen says it is held on by 4 clips on the back.




Is that the ring that clips over the wheel edge and always runs into a wheel weight?




Yep
Posted By: WORKER_BEE

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 09/07/08 02:42 AM

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If Mopar offered the original 14" trim ring again through the license program and the quality was good, what interest is there? Trying to understand the business case here. This part would come from original Chrysler tooling that has been slightly re-worked due to storage life damage.

Matt @ MCB




Do you know what years the tooling would be for. 1969 or 1970 and up? I personally think the 1969 trim ring would be in high demand. I've seen my share of '69 Mopars with the wrong ones.
Posted By: fluegelmeister

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked toolin - 09/07/08 03:54 AM

I would buy a set.
Barry
Posted By: Mastershake340

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked toolin - 09/07/08 05:26 AM

I could really use 2.
Posted By: anlauto

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked toolin - 09/07/08 12:56 PM

I just paid $200 for ONE...So I would gladly buy a set as well
Posted By: 440gtx6

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked toolin - 09/07/08 03:36 PM

I could use a set for 70 road wheels.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked toolin - 09/07/08 03:57 PM

The 70-71 style would also be in good demand, all 14.00 trim ring applications used the same rings; B,E, & A body and the current reproduction is off by a country mile in the valve stem cut out area.
Posted By: sch1966

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 09/07/08 07:28 PM

I would be interested but for what it is worth people are offering to refinish originals for $55 each.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 09/09/08 06:45 PM

Who does this and where are they located? I contacted about 2 dozen stainless steel resto shops two years ago when I was trying to get my original 69 trim rings done and no one would touch them. I ended up restoring them myself and bought a bunch of tools and restoration items through Eastwood and spend about 40-60 hrs on each (times 4) for my car. I still have a second set of them that still need to be restored and I would gladly pay $55 each to have them redone.
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 11/15/10 11:59 PM

Any update on the 14" trim rings? I'd be interested in a set of brushed rings for a '73 Plymouth.
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 11/16/10 12:20 AM

Has anyone tried to brush the finish on the polished ones? http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/fbshopmain2.asp?cat=1
Posted By: A12

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 11/16/10 01:11 AM

I could use two for a '69 GTX but would buy a set of four (4) without hesitation if they were O.E. correct......and if they were made in the USA or Canada it's a no brainer IMO


MikeR
Posted By: cataclysm80

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 11/16/10 02:32 AM

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Has anyone tried to brush the finish on the polished ones? http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/fbshopmain2.asp?cat=1




With trim ring installed, put wheel on balancer to spin it. Apply scotch brite pad = brushed finish. DON'T HOLD THE SCOTCH BRITE PAD WITH YOUR HAND!!! (You might lose a finger!)

Tav
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 11/16/10 03:48 AM

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I would be interested but for what it is worth people are offering to refinish originals for $55 each.



Do they remove dings on the face of the trim ring for that price?
Posted By: burdar

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 11/16/10 03:30 PM

I need a set for my 73 Challenger.

The rings are double walled. If there are dents, it makes it kind of hard to get in there to pound them out.
Posted By: 66500MPFI

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 11/17/10 08:57 PM

I might be interested at the right price.
Posted By: moparrjm

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 11/18/10 12:45 AM

I need a set of 4 for my A body ralleys.
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 12/11/10 08:06 PM

I think the 14" brushed would sell well since they were used on a lot of years. A,B,C,E,F bodies.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 12/11/10 11:48 PM

yes but there is such a demand for the 1969 one year only trim ring also.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 12/11/10 11:52 PM

I now have 2 NOS sets for my two 1971 Dusters and I'm glad to have them, they weren't cheap by any means but I'd buy another set just for spares.

A quality/accurate reproduction or "continuation" from resurected dies would be a sure hit IMO. Anything would be better than the (incorrect) GM rings being pimped to Mopar owners.
Posted By: 72demon416

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 12/12/10 04:30 AM

I'm in for a set of brushed ones for my 72 demon
Posted By: Mastershake340

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 12/12/10 04:34 AM

I could use a couple. I wonder how well the 15" rings sold after they were reissued? It seemed to take forever to get them out in the market, whether Mopar made a decent profit on them would have a major bearing on if they would ever consider reissuing the 14" rings IMO.
Posted By: mccannix

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 12/12/10 05:11 AM

If Chrysler had been making a profit on the reissued 15" trim rings they would not have cancelled them, largely due in part to lack of sales.
That being said, I doubt they would venture into releasing the 14" ones.
Posted By: idrivevintage

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 12/12/10 04:22 PM

I have 2 69' B bodys that could sure use nice new trim rings

and yeah.......why is there ALWAYS a wheel weight where the clip needs to be



About what kind of price range are we talking?
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 03/30/11 11:48 PM

One pair of trim rings I bought are brushed with the polished outer face. The other set is brushed completely. Which would be correct for a '73 Plymouth Duster?
Posted By: 340cpe

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 03/31/11 02:23 AM

Anyone have an NOS set for sale? Let me know!! I don't think that you will ever see licenced repros.
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 03/31/11 03:38 AM

There was an NOS set at the Mopar swap meet in Indy earlier in the month. $800 for the set.
Posted By: 19cuda73

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/04/11 11:43 PM

Got Lucky this weekend and found a set of 2944424's still in the original boxes and packaging at the Portland Swap Meet. 1 package was still unopened. They were sitting on a table in the Pavillion with no other Mopar stuff around. The guy wanted $400 for the set. Even the paper they were wrapped in felt old. These were made 10/18/88. 23 years old..

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Posted By: 19cuda73

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/04/11 11:45 PM

Great looking rings too

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Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/04/11 11:46 PM

I'm jealous.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/05/11 12:23 AM

Very nice looking trim rings. Shame they are the 1970 style that doesn't have the lip on the inner part or the 4 mounting clips. Someone has to make the correct 1969 trim ring eventually.
Posted By: ehbody

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/05/11 02:13 AM

So I now need to ask.
What are these 03461222 - Trim Rings ?
Posted By: 70 buzz

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/06/11 01:54 AM

what would these trim rings be for

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Posted By: 70 buzz

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/06/11 01:55 AM

back side

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/06/11 02:03 AM

That style came out in 1970 and newer. They were used on the rallye and road wheels.
Posted By: 72demon416

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/17/11 08:59 AM

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I'm jealous.





Man I really wish somebody would repop these things. I'm getting pissed at never being in the right place at the right time to get a set of these and there is no way that I'm paying somebody $800 for them. It is frustrating that so many of us put a ton of money and effort into restoring our cars only to have to install a mediocre set of these rings only because there is no other option.
Posted By: 69x

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/17/11 06:45 PM

There was 1 NOS trim ring on ebay last week, I dont think they guy knew what he had at first, it was a 69 ring in a 70 box,it started out with a biddng price of $30, I checked it early the next morning and he had a buy it now price of $90 with $10 shipping.

I was thinking about buying it but passed, a few mn later someone bought it. I want a set of 4 and trying to find them one at a time would take a very long time I think, so if I would of bought that one then would have to find 3 more.

There has been a set of 4 on ebay for over 3 months, he keeps relisting them every month, says they are Mint used, if you look hard enough you can see some scratchs, he wants $600 and $30 for shipping, for that price they should be perfect, thats in NOS price range.
Posted By: m46rat

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/17/11 07:54 PM

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If Chrysler had been making a profit on the reissued 15" trim rings they would not have cancelled them, largely due in part to lack of sales.
That being said, I doubt they would venture into releasing the 14" ones.




For all the MASSIVE HYPE that Chrysler put out before the release of the 15" trim rings, plus all the NOS examples of them that were voluntered to Chrysler to make sure that the "got it right" as far as an absolutely nuts on accurate re-issue, then.......... The re-issue was not the same as the original. If it had been I would have bought 10 sets. As it was, it is just as well that they were cancelled for lack of sales, they were crap. I highly doubt that they will ever remake the 14" rings, 1969 or 1970-71 styles. And once they are dinged, whether 14" or 15", they are basically impossible to fix. Keep on complaining or buck up and buy the NOS originals, those will be your only choices.
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/18/11 12:28 AM

The biggest issue I've seen with used trim rings is people using mallets to install them. They have dents all over the face. I've disassembled two of them and have been hammering out the dents, sanding them smooth, then polishing, looks pretty good so far.
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/19/11 11:28 PM

I've been asked to post some photos and a description of the trim ring refurbishing so far.

1. Grind a "V" into a pair of Channellocks. This will leave a wedge to get under the pinch seam.
2. Pry open the pinch not quite to 90 degrees.
3. Pull the two halves apart.
4. With a 1/4" thick piece of steel clamped vertical in my vise, it served as the "dolly" for the normal hammer and dolly method to get the dents out of the face. Even a piece of wood or hard plastic would work. The flat surface can be worked pretty good but still won't be perfect unless you have a ton of experience.
5. At this point, a Dual Action sander was used with 80 grit paper, make sure you keep the pad flat with the flat face of the trim ring. This will give a flat surface all the way around. You might notice spots that aren't getting sanded, they are low and can be hammered out some more.
6. Switch to 180 grit, then 220 grit.
7. A regular sanding block with progressively finer paper is used to remove the previous sanding marks. Go until it can be polished with a normal cotton polishing wheel. Rouge will bring out the shine.
8. Metal polish like Wenol will make it pop.
9. For the brushed inner part, some are nice enough to use a coarse Scotch Brite by hand, others take a piece of 180 grit paper. Just follow the factory brushed pattern.
10. Assemble the two halves back together.
11. Hammer and dolly the pinch seam. A section of 2x4 in a vise will give a soft enough surface to just catch the edge of the trim ring to hammer it back together.
It's a lot of work but it really didn't cost me any money, it was stuff that was already laying around.
Photo #1 shows the modification to the Channellocks.

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Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/19/11 11:31 PM

Photo #2.
The upper left is the back part of the trim ring that holds on to the wheel.
Lower left is what the trim ring looks like before all the dents are removed and prior to polishing.
Lower right is a trim ring with polising only. You can see the dents from where people used mallets to put them back on.
Upper right is one that was disassembled and reworked.

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Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/19/11 11:34 PM

Photo #3.
After removing dents, then sanding with 80 grit.

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Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/19/11 11:35 PM

Photo #4.
Trim ring on right has had dents removed, but no sanding or polishing.
Trim ring on left is mostly finished. Just a final polishing is left.

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Posted By: 72N96RR

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/20/11 12:37 AM

Check member EWJ for some NOS trim rings..I dont remember the size but I do know they are NOS..
Posted By: 72demon416

Re: Mopar 14" trim rings from original re-worked tooling??? - 04/20/11 07:31 AM

Thanks Dave and 72n96rr
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