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What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...?

Posted By: BigDaddy440

What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 12:44 AM


I noticed in pictures of well restored 69 B body cars that the lower control arms, and a few other suspension items are not black, but a silver in color. Can anyone provide me with a paint color or code for these specific parts? Maybe there's another thread about this that didn't come up in my search.

In other words what parts are black, and what parts are not black, and if not black, what color are they?

Thanks!

-Dan
Posted By: anlauto

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 12:50 AM

From the factory the only part PAINTED BLACK on the front suspension of your car was the K Frame !
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 01:01 AM

And the shocks and torsion bars.
Posted By: anlauto

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 01:05 AM

Yea ok...them too ...but THAT'S it....
Posted By: BigDaddy440

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 01:08 AM

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From the factory the only part PAINTED BLACK on the front suspension of your car was the K Frame !




So the K frame is black...what color should some of the other items be painted IF a "proper" restoration was being completed?

Anyone have this info?

Thanks for any help!
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 01:54 AM

No painting - either bare metal, bare metal with cosmoline or plated - depending on the part.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 01:56 AM

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Yea ok...them too ...but THAT'S it....




Oh Crap - And the sway bar too.... And, and this thermos - that's all!
Posted By: BigDaddy440

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 02:13 AM


I'm getting ready to paint all of these parts, and I'd like to do the best job at looking somewhat factory in appearance. If something was left in bare metal, I'll likely use a protective paint that resembles bare metal etc.

These pics are from a 1970 B body resto. I have no idea how "original" it appears, but it sure does look nice.





Any comments on the above pics? Specifically what looks correct, and what doesn't? Again, I'm just trying to decide which colors to use on these parts.

Thanks.

-dan
Posted By: 70 buzz

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 02:50 AM

this is what I did

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Posted By: anlauto

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 03:16 AM

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I'd like to do the best job at looking somewhat factory in appearance




This is all you have to keep in mind....If you're going to paint everything, then take a step back, figure out what natural colours things would have been and go nuts...I like to use several shades of grey/silver/black etc, with different top coats like tinted/satin/gloss clears, etc...

This picture was about 5 years ago....since then I've even got more crazy with the different shades...The UCA's should be bare metal, not black...

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Posted By: sixpackbee

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 03:19 AM

Upper control arms can be either black or bare. Depending on the vendor used at the time.
Posted By: 70runner

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 03:22 AM

Sway bar: natural or black?
Posted By: 70 buzz

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 12:21 PM

Pretty sure it is black
Posted By: BTTG

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 01:28 PM

I'm at the same point in the process (69 Coronet R/T) as you and have many of the same questions.

So far my plan is

LCA's = quasimoline
http://www.restorick.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PntQuasimoline

K member = Eastwoods Extreme chassis black or 2K ceramic chassis black. anyone with opinions on these products? is it worth getting an HVLP as this could be used for lots of other parts (i.e., are the paint products that much better that it will pay off in the long run? realistically if a few pieces nee to be sent out to be sprayed likely would pay for the unit pretty quickly.)? should this be gloss????????? my thought is gloss for the k member.

Pitman arm, idler arm, center link, tie rod ends and adjusters, and spindles = all shades of gray like Seymour's cast blast, eastwood detail gray, eastwoods zinc phosphate. what would you use to top (clear) coat these? and which other parts would you clear coat?

sway bar and strut bars = shades of gray.....this post is saying black for the sway bar though....need to confirm which is correct. anyone know for sure? now leaning towards black. what about the mounting brackets for the bar....

drums/backing = eastwoods brake Gray. Interested in the red circles in the above pictures on the drums. Resto Rick sells this paint, but haven't seen these circles a lot. what cars received them?

upper control arms? I am uncertain. was leaning towards a "natural" look, but was uncertain what this would be. do you need something more silver than one of the cast gray products?

what about steering boxes? where manual boxes natural (cast gray) and power boxes black? Heard this, but doesn't make sense why the power ones would be painted.

Hope i helped and hope some of the responses to my question will help also.
Posted By: anlauto

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 01:33 PM

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do you need something more silver than one of the cast gray products?




This will be YOUR NEW BEST FRIEND....

I can't imagine doing a restoration with-out it

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Posted By: MOPARMIKE69

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 02:14 PM

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Pretty sure it is black



In 69 it is natural
Posted By: MOPARMIKE69

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 02:15 PM

Quote:

Quote:

do you need something more silver than one of the cast gray products?




This will be YOUR NEW BEST FRIEND....

I can't imagine doing a restoration with-out it



Exactly!
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 03:32 PM

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do you need something more silver than one of the cast gray products?




This will be YOUR NEW BEST FRIEND....

I can't imagine doing a restoration with-out it




There are powdercoats that are the same color but way more durable
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 05:38 PM

The sway bar, drag link, and steering knuckles are forgings, so the natural surface finish is a bit different than the stamped steel parts such as upper and lower control arms.

With the sway bar, drag link, and steering knuckles, clean them up with your wire wheel on the bench grinder. Rub wheel bearing grease on to them and wipe off as much excess grease as possible. This will produce a very new looking natural finish and have a protective layer too. If there is excessive rust, sand blast or glass bead blast prior to using the wire wheel.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 09:11 PM

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Upper control arms can be either black or bare. Depending on the vendor used at the time.




I have never seen an original upper control arm in black...there have been over the counter relacement UCA'a and LCA's in black that may have found their way on a car early in its life - which would look original 35-40 years later.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/01/10 09:13 PM

Sway Bar - Black - put painted badly - mostly missing....but 100% evident on very nice, low-mile original cars.
Posted By: BigDaddy440

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/02/10 06:12 AM

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I'm at the same point in the process (69 Coronet R/T) as you and have many of the same questions.

So far my plan is

LCA's = quasimoline
http://www.restorick.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PntQuasimoline






Thanks for the link for the LCA paint!

-dan
Posted By: sixpackbee

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/02/10 04:29 PM

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Upper control arms can be either black or bare. Depending on the vendor used at the time.


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I have never seen an original upper control arm in black...there have been over the counter relacement UCA'a and LCA's in black that may have found their way on a car early in its life - which would look original 35-40 years later.



I have had several real low mile cars in the shop that had black uppers. Ranging in years from 66-70. Just my observations on the subject.
Posted By: hemigeno

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/02/10 08:08 PM

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Sway Bar - Black - put painted badly - mostly missing....but 100% evident on very nice, low-mile original cars.




Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/02/10 08:38 PM

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Sway Bar - Black - put painted badly - mostly missing....but 100% evident on very nice, low-mile original cars.



Could it be possible that it's a "crust" left over from the forging process versus being painted?
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/02/10 10:16 PM

Nah - It's definitely paint Dave.

That crust is what grows on us old-timers!
Posted By: moparo

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/02/10 11:11 PM

I have always heard people claiming that uppers were black, but have never seen any proof.

I have been keeping an eye on this and have done many cars and never came across a black pair.
Posted By: anlauto

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/02/10 11:13 PM

I think your wife found a black pair once...
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/02/10 11:50 PM

Posted By: moparo

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/03/10 02:04 AM

Yep she sure did

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Posted By: little buddy

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/03/10 02:20 AM

all said.what color are the lower arms even the wife dont no
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/03/10 02:35 AM

LCA's - Bare metal dipped in cosmoline. Hmmm That sounds dirty too!
Posted By: little buddy

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/03/10 02:41 AM

yes yes it does
Posted By: anlauto

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/03/10 03:13 AM

Oh my gosh ...what have I started....I meant she found a black pair or upper control arms at the last swap meet she was at....ahhh you guys...
Posted By: moparo

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/03/10 03:47 AM

I think I have front shot>
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/03/10 04:39 AM

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I think I have front shot>




I double dog dare ya
Posted By: little buddy

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/03/10 08:45 PM

where can you get this stainless steel paint
Posted By: BTTG

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/03/10 08:50 PM

Summit racing has it

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SEM-16-054/
Posted By: 75RoadRunner

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 01:56 AM

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drums/backing = eastwoods brake Gray. Interested in the red circles in the above pictures on the drums. Resto Rick sells this paint, but haven't seen these circles a lot. what cars received them?





The "red circles" were on cars that came with road wheels.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 01:58 AM

Crop circles? What?

These are from my survivor Bird - applied with a brush and the wheels were put on with the paint still wet.....normal day at Ma's

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Posted By: anlauto

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 01:59 AM

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where can you get this stainless steel paint




I just bought 24 cans from www.farmhardware.com
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 02:03 AM

more..

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Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 02:04 AM

Another

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Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 02:05 AM

Last one

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Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 02:08 AM

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Quote:

where can you get this stainless steel paint




I just bought 24 cans from www.farmhardware.com




Stainless Steel Paint?

You don't have to paint Stainless Steel.
Posted By: anlauto

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 03:20 AM

No silly...it's paint that looks like bare steel
Posted By: little buddy

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 03:28 AM

what does a bare steel.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish

Re: What color to paint 69 B body LCA's and other...? - 12/07/10 03:50 AM

Pick-n-ick Baskets!

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