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What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas??

Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/12/10 08:14 PM

What are you guys doing in those hard to get to areas like boxed in sections of framing and sheet metal where you have absoloutely no access other than the 1" diameter drain holes? I've got a lot of boxed in areas where I can see there is a bit of dirt and a small amount of surface rust but I have no way of getting to it without going overboard and drilling out 1,000,000 spot welds needlessly. Like inside solid frame rails. Seems a shame to have the outsides get a nice layer of epoxy primer but not be able to get at the insides. What are you guys doing in these areas? Pressure wash as best I can and live with it? Try and get some phosphoric acid coating in there??
Posted By: mbmopar

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/13/10 05:01 AM

I used a long piece of old trans cooler line, attached it to my blow gun via a rubber hose, and about 40 psi I cleaned out approx 20 lbs of sand, silt, crap, etc from my frame rails on my 74 Monaco Police car during the resto......and ran / sprayed primer and paint in as best I could ...the trans line worked great, using the end to scrape away at the inside corners and get the packed silt...but do it outside trust me
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/13/10 03:09 PM

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Thats rather personal.
Posted By: Grizzly

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/13/10 07:13 PM

mbmopar: That's a great idea, thanks!

A nearby bodyshop uses a product called "wax-oil". It is sort of like the spray foam stuff used for sealing drafty windows and walls in your house. They put an extension tube on the wax-oil can and use it to fill the rocker panels and door bottoms. Sorry I don't have pics, perhaps someone else does?
Posted By: Q5_Ed

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/14/10 01:18 PM

Also add a shop vac with small nozzle or home made attachment to work inside and at the holes. Yuo can feel the dirt as it is scrapped and gathered. Old coat hanger will also loosen stuf if you feel around and work it back and forth. I spent hours on a car and was amazed how much dry south carolina red clay I got out.
Posted By: SattyNoCar

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/14/10 02:12 PM


While I haven't tried it, Eastwood now has a product for treating the inside of frame rails.

Worth a try?

Eastwood
Posted By: 71rm23

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/14/10 03:48 PM

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While I haven't tried it, Eastwood now has a product for treating the inside of frame rails.

Worth a try?

Eastwood


Thanks for posting that. I would give it a whirl
Posted By: magiccuda

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/14/10 08:04 PM

I dont like the idea of filling the rockers up with something. I think it will just make it hold water and actuly rust it out faster.
Posted By: domingo

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/14/10 08:05 PM

Posted By: SattyNoCar

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/15/10 04:02 AM

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I dont like the idea of filling the rockers up with something. I think it will just make it hold water and actuly rust it out faster.




If you're referring to the product I posted a link to, its not foam. As long as the drains are clear, I don't see a problem.

Posted By: domingo

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/15/10 07:03 AM

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mbmopar: That's a great idea, thanks!

A nearby bodyshop uses a product called "wax-oil". It is sort of like the spray foam stuff used for sealing drafty windows and walls in your house. They put an extension tube on the wax-oil can and use it to fill the rocker panels and door bottoms. Sorry I don't have pics, perhaps someone else does?




No, we were reffering to this one quoted above.

I would never put some kind of foamy element inside the rockers!!! I bet it would make things worse!!!
Posted By: rtmike

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/15/10 01:23 PM

I cleaned mine the best I could with compresed air and a shop vac. If there was surface rust I hit it with the spray stuff that turns the rust black (I think its phoshporic acid, but don't quote me, I got the semi-cheap version from NAPA), then I stuck the nozzle of the spray gun in there and put paint in there like crazy. It was messy, but in the end it is probably the best thing I could do. I am sure it is better then the factory, and that held up for 41 years, so considering how little weather it sees, probably good.
Posted By: smac77

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/16/10 02:54 AM

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mbmopar: That's a great idea, thanks!

A nearby bodyshop uses a product called "wax-oil". It is sort of like the spray foam stuff used for sealing drafty windows and walls in your house. They put an extension tube on the wax-oil can and use it to fill the rocker panels and door bottoms. Sorry I don't have pics, perhaps someone else does?




No, we were reffering to this one quoted above.

I would never put some kind of foamy element inside the rockers!!! I bet it would make things worse!!!




Fluid film is a wax oil and it's pretty runny, not foamy?? I think cosmoline is also a wax oil??? Those two are great for inside panels, rails etc...
Posted By: keith airgrabber

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/16/10 06:26 AM

At my work we uae a product called seal out. You stick a long wand 4feet long in frame rail rockers backsides of fenders etc. The wand is attached to a siphon style gun. pull the wand out slowly and it shoots this stuff 360 degrees. Best rust fighter I know of. It seems to crawl around all over the place. Will drip out for a while ,but that is how you know if you got it good.
Posted By: Grizzly

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/16/10 07:15 AM

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mbmopar: That's a great idea, thanks!

A nearby bodyshop uses a product called "wax-oil". It is sort of like the spray foam stuff used for sealing drafty windows and walls in your house. They put an extension tube on the wax-oil can and use it to fill the rocker panels and door bottoms. Sorry I don't have pics, perhaps someone else does?




No, we were reffering to this one quoted above.

I would never put some kind of foamy element inside the rockers!!! I bet it would make things worse!!!




Fluid film is a wax oil and it's pretty runny, not foamy?? I think cosmoline is also a wax oil??? Those two are great for inside panels, rails etc...




Ok, that sets me straight. Thanks for the clarification.
Posted By: Gavin

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/16/10 01:27 PM

You are probably thinking of this product Wayoyl (note spelling).

The product is better than the website! It has been used over here in the UK for decades and works pretty well - it is exactly designed for getting in hard to reach cavities etc and preventing rust. I'm sure it must either be available in the US or something similar.
Posted By: SattyNoCar

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/18/10 04:38 AM

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You are probably thinking of this product Wayoyl (note spelling).

The product is better than the website! It has been used over here in the UK for decades and works pretty well - it is exactly designed for getting in hard to reach cavities etc and preventing rust. I'm sure it must either be available in the US or something similar.





Doing a quickie google search, I came up with these guys that apply waxoyl or sell it for the DYI'er.

Robinson Service

How difficult is it to apply this stuff?
Posted By: Gavin

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/20/10 12:27 AM

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Doing a quickie google search, I came up with these guys that apply waxoyl or sell it for the DYI'er.

Robinson Service

How difficult is it to apply this stuff?




Not difficult - it is pretty much solid at room temeprature (but you could squish it in your hand easily). If you heat it up it gets real runny and then is easily applied inside sills etc with a sprayer. The ones you buy are basically like a trigger sprayer with a tube on with holes in it. It would be easy enough to make an applicator.

Only thing is - that link you posted seems to be charging over $200 for a 5L can - over here you can get a 5L can for less than $50. That seems excessive to me
Posted By: A12

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/20/10 01:43 AM

Sounds like Ziebart......
Posted By: SattyNoCar

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/21/10 02:44 PM

Only thing is - that link you posted seems to be charging over $200 for a 5L can - over here you can get a 5L can for less than $50. That seems excessive to me

How much would you charge to ship?

Sounds kinda like Ziebart to me too.
Posted By: Gavin

Re: What do you guys do for those hard to get to areas?? - 11/25/10 12:19 AM

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Only thing is - that link you posted seems to be charging over $200 for a 5L can - over here you can get a 5L can for less than $50. That seems excessive to me

How much would you charge to ship?

Sounds kinda like Ziebart to me too.




Just whatever the cost was....but having a brief look at the postal service website it does look more expensive than I thought - probably $100 to ship just the cheapest way.
If you can find an acceptably cheap way (to you) to ship it, let me know and I'll ship it to you. It's all online, UPS, FedEx, Royal Mail (like USPS) etc
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