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Repro " H " wheels....... any news ?????

Posted By: buzz440

Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/01/10 11:05 PM

Well Christmas is coming and I sure could use a fresh new set of " H " wheels any recent news ? Is this project still a GO or dead in the water ?
An update would be nice .

Later, BUZZ
Posted By: BigDaddy440

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/02/10 07:41 AM

I'd be interested!
Posted By: silent-H-wheel

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/02/10 03:25 PM

The project is dead in the water, due to the economic slow down. The market for hundreds of sets required for manufacturing efficiencies of scale and affordable pricing is not there presently.

Lots of people say they're interested, but when you ask them what they would pay per wheel, or if you tell them they must buy a whole set of 5, they either throw out a price so low that you can not recover the investment costs, go away pretty quickly.
Posted By: 6PACMAC

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/14/10 03:51 AM

What would be the needed projected retail price, per set of 5, to make it "happen"?
Posted By: rayztoy

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/14/10 09:53 PM

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What would be the needed projected retail price, per set of 5, to make it "happen"?




Posted By: smac77

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/16/10 03:11 AM

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What would be the needed projected retail price, per set of 5, to make it "happen"?







Posted By: buzz440

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/16/10 05:32 AM

Paul, you out there ? this was your project and you were so close...... care to chime in and let us know what happened.

Later, Buzz
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/16/10 03:46 PM

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Paul, you out there ? this was your project and you were so close...... care to chime in and let us know what happened.

Later, Buzz




Buzz, did you miss this reply ?

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The project is dead in the water, due to the economic slow down. The market for hundreds of sets required for manufacturing efficiencies of scale and affordable pricing is not there presently.

Lots of people say they're interested, but when you ask them what they would pay per wheel, or if you tell them they must buy a whole set of 5, they either throw out a price so low that you can not recover the investment costs, go away pretty quickly.




Maybe something was lost to you when you read his reply above, maybe this will be easier for you ? ...

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Le projet est mort dans l'eau, due au ralentissement économique. Le marché pour des centaines d'ensembles exigés pour des efficacités de fabrication de balance et de l'évaluation accessible n'est pas là actuellement.

Un bon nombre de gens disent ils sont intéressés, mais quand vous leur demandez que ce qu'elles payeraient par roue, ou si vous leur dites elles devez acheter toute une série de 5, elles l'un ou l'autre jet dehors un prix tellement bas que vous ne pouvez pas récupérer les charges de placement, partent assez rapidement.


Posted By: rayztoy

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/16/10 07:06 PM

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Maybe something was lost to you when you read his reply above, maybe this will be easier for you ? ...

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Le projet est mort dans l'eau, due au ralentissement économique. Le marché pour des centaines d'ensembles exigés pour des efficacités de fabrication de balance et de l'évaluation accessible n'est pas là actuellement.

Un bon nombre de gens disent ils sont intéressés, mais quand vous leur demandez que ce qu'elles payeraient par roue, ou si vous leur dites elles devez acheter toute une série de 5, elles l'un ou l'autre jet dehors un prix tellement bas que vous ne pouvez pas récupérer les charges de placement, partent assez rapidement.







Good one John!
Posted By: AB&E

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/16/10 07:11 PM

someone I saw on the web stamps them jusy like ma mopar did??? 25 a wheel my q is where are all the 15X6 wheel all I can find are 15X7 ????
Posted By: A12

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/16/10 07:33 PM

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someone I saw on the web stamps them jusy like ma mopar did??? 25 a wheel my q is where are all the 15X6 wheel all I can find are 15X7 ????





New to the "H" Wheel scene eh? (just a little ribbing)

Do a search and then

MikeR
Posted By: AB&E

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/16/10 07:38 PM

yah i am lost but looking for direction
sign of a true ebody guy
Posted By: buzz440

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/17/10 03:17 AM

John.... as always you just love but before you I call out PAUL on this subject that was in it's final stages and suddenly droped off the face of the earth...... and for some reason Paul becomes JOHN and answers me . Anyway, (John) I get it no repro "H" wheels...... soooorrryyyy for asking.

Later, BUZZ
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/17/10 03:25 PM

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John.... as always you just love but before you I call out PAUL on this subject that was in it's final stages and suddenly droped off the face of the earth...... and for some reason Paul becomes JOHN and answers me . Anyway, (John) I get it no repro "H" wheels...... soooorrryyyy for asking.

Later, BUZZ




John answered your question, you chose to ask the question again hoping for a different answer.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome.

edit ... i see there is another john in the mix , I'm just having a little harmless fun with buzzyboy and is rabid obsession with this product .
Posted By: imfixinmopars426

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/17/10 04:32 PM

wow....i didnt know the H wheel subject was sooooooo touchy.
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/17/10 04:36 PM

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John.... as always you just love but before you I call out PAUL on this subject that was in it's final stages and suddenly droped off the face of the earth...... and for some reason Paul becomes JOHN and answers me . Anyway, (John) I get it no repro "H" wheels...... soooorrryyyy for asking.

Later, BUZZ




Why all the agravation for a part that will always be a fake? You must like fake Rolex's too.
Posted By: Beeware

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/17/10 05:33 PM

Buzz,

Just to fill you in, John is one of the Partners in the wheel project. When we first started the Project the Minimum order was 800-1000 wheels we were Ok with that number and as tooling was finished and all licensing was completed the wheel company that we were dealing with changed policys/GM's and now Min order became larger, 2500 wheels!!!

We just dont think we can move that many wheels, thats 500 sets of 5 not to mention the storage for 2500 boxed wheels then add in the economy and there you have it!

Price on single sets of wheels wasnt our big issue its after we sell the first 50 or so sets of wheels what are we going to do with and where are we going to store the remaining 450 sets (2250 wheels)and will we ever sell that many sets in our lifetime???

Buzz we are not doing the wheels at this time. If your looking for a set of H's give Pete a call, Hes a straight shooter and will give you an honest description!!!
Thanks Paul

I'm fixin,
"couple of dings,add proper "seasoning" and waa-laa! OEM!" THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN!!! We had company logo on the inside rimshell so everybody would know there a repo, theres lots of repro parts out there and there marketed that way!REPRO

Posted By: imfixinmopars426

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/17/10 06:08 PM

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Buzz,

Just to fill you in, John is one of the Partners in the wheel project. When we first started the Project the Minimum order was 800-1000 wheels we were Ok with that number and as tooling was finished and all licensing was completed the wheel company that we were dealing with changed policys/GM's and now Min order became larger, 2500 wheels!!!

We just dont think we can move that many wheels, thats 500 sets of 5 not to mention the storage for 2500 boxed wheels then add in the economy and there you have it!

Price on single sets of wheels wasnt our big issue its after we sell the first 50 or so sets of wheels what are we going to do with and where are we going to store the remaining 450 sets (2250 wheels)and will we ever sell that many sets in our lifetime???

Buzz we are not doing the wheels at this time. If your looking for a set of H's give Pete a call, Hes a straight shooter and will give you an honest decription!!!
Thanks Paul

I'm fixin,
"couple of dings,add proper "seasoning" and waa-laa! OEM!" THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN!!! We had company logo on the inside rimshell so everybody would know there a repo, theres lots of repro parts out there and there marketed that way!REPRO





no no no...im sorry if you assumed i was thinking you guys would do that...i ment,as a joke,that people looking to purchase said wheels,would try and pass them off as oem,like i have seen in the past,on other parts,and it was apparent that it's was a repo unit...please forgive my non-sense humor. i will retract my post,im sorry. ..mike
Posted By: silent-H-wheel

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/18/10 05:02 PM

Guys, sorry for the delayed reply.

Wasn't trying to stir any pots. Paul did a great job (better than me) explaining what happened on the wheel project.

It was really a shame. We have a lot of sunk costs into the project, including engineering, trademark royalties, etc.

We really would have loved to make it happen, but the economy tanking was the final strike after the wheel company changed its minimum order quantity.

Last I spoke to Chrysler's licensing group (pre-bankruptcy), they had another interested party to make the wheels, so I'm not sure if everybody's dream of a repro H wheel might come true after all.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/18/10 07:59 PM

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Guys, sorry for the delayed reply.

Wasn't trying to stir any pots. Paul did a great job (better than me) explaining what happened on the wheel project.

It was really a shame. We have a lot of sunk costs into the project, including engineering, trademark royalties, etc.

We really would have loved to make it happen, but the economy tanking was the final strike after the wheel company changed its minimum order quantity.

Last I spoke to Chrysler's licensing group (pre-bankruptcy), they had another interested party to make the wheels, so I'm not sure if everybody's dream of a repro H wheel might come true after all.




John , I'm the on this one ....
Posted By: Q5_Ed

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/19/10 03:30 AM

buzz,

for gods sake why don't you just pony up for a set of originals buddy you have been after them for yeeeeeaaaarrrssssssss!!!!

Posted By: sixbbl69

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/19/10 01:59 PM

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buzz,

for gods sake why don't you just pony up for a set of originals buddy you have been after them for yeeeeeaaaarrrssssssss!!!!





yes, the H will make your car go much faster.you won't be ashamed to drive it out in the public anymore and your car will love you more.
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/19/10 03:39 PM

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buzz,

for gods sake why don't you just give Dave Watt your full VIN# for his A12 database after all these yeeeeeaaaarrrssssssss!!!!





There, I fixed it.





Just teasing.
Posted By: flypaper

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/19/10 06:26 PM

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buzz,

for gods sake why don't you just pony up for a set of originals buddy you have been after them for yeeeeeaaaarrrssssssss!!!!






if he only put 25 cents a day in the change jar
and he could of bought 2 full sets by now!!
Posted By: daniel_depetro

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 11/20/10 12:34 PM

When will these wheels go into production?



























Posted By: Fanning

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/01/13 03:02 PM

I know that this is an old post, but have there been any updates on the H wheels or 450 wheels? Has anyone stepped up to reproduce these?
Posted By: DoctorDiff

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/02/13 01:13 AM

No.
Posted By: srt

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/02/13 02:32 PM

This pretty much insures no 15" '68 wheels will be repro'd.
Posted By: EvilScamp

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/04/13 12:10 AM

What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.
Posted By: A12

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/04/13 07:37 AM

Think the "H" stands for "Heavy Duty" as the H steel wheels are usually on station wagons and heavier vehicles or a vehicle with a big V-8
Posted By: 62maxwgn

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/04/13 12:26 PM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!
Posted By: flypaper

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/04/13 02:05 PM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!




thats ok..
i take that as a invite to start picking thier car apart!
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/04/13 05:11 PM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.




the wheels talked about in this thread are 15x6 , the wheels you have are not the $$$ wheels .
Posted By: EvilScamp

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/04/13 09:45 PM

Thanks for clearing that up guys, now it makes sense to me.
Posted By: cdp

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/12/13 04:16 AM

A buddy of mine works at Kelsey Wheel in Sedalia, MO. I wonder if they would be interested in taking on tooling and production. I was thinking they made mainly steel wheels there only.

Just a thought.
Posted By: 62maxwgn

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/12/13 12:42 PM

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A buddy of mine works at Kelsey Wheel in Sedalia, MO. I wonder if they would be interested in taking on tooling and production. I was thinking they made mainly steel wheels there only.

Just a thought.




That would e an expensive project and return on investment and demand probably wouldn't make it profitable.
Posted By: 696pack

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/13/13 08:14 AM

I thought RestoRick was doing some work to a more common wheel to provide the correct looking, size, dated, dimpled wheel all of the A12 guys were after?
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/13/13 02:33 PM

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I thought RestoRick was doing some work to a more common wheel to provide the correct looking, size, dated, dimpled wheel all of the A12 guys were after?




He was/is ??? and that would be just as acceptable as a REPOP wheel ... and cheaper.
Posted By: formula_s

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/13/13 07:02 PM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!




thats ok..
i take that as a invite to start picking thier(sic) car apart!





And your poor spelling too.
Posted By: flypaper

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/13/13 09:54 PM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!




thats ok..
i take that as a invite to start picking thier(sic) car apart!





And your poor spelling too.




who's grading my paper? besides you?
Posted By: formula_s

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/14/13 03:57 AM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!




thats ok..
i take that as a invite to start picking thier(sic) car apart!





And your poor spelling too.




who's grading my paper? besides you?





Anyone with an ounce of gray matter.
Posted By: flypaper

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/14/13 01:00 PM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!




thats ok..
i take that as a invite to start picking thier(sic) car apart!





And your poor spelling too.




who's grading my paper? besides you?





Anyone with an ounce of gray matter.




if you judge people from that,
you are a sad person!
i feel sorry for you and the people around you..
Posted By: paris401

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/14/13 01:43 PM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!



thats ok..
i take that as a invite to start picking thier(sic) car apart!



And your poor spelling too.




should you not be hanging out in the A-body forum where u belong??
Posted By: formula_s

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/14/13 04:12 PM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!



thats ok..
i take that as a invite to start picking thier(sic) car apart!



And your poor spelling too.




should you not be hanging out in the A-body forum where u belong??





r. sack, your cars are owned by your wife.
Posted By: a12superbee

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/15/13 09:10 AM

I posted this over on Dave's site a few years back.

These came off of 2000ish ford crown vics and whatever the full sized mercs are called.
They were the 'spare' tire/wheels. I don't know if the steel hub cap wheels are the same.
Should be yards full of these cars.

They are also wider than the H wheels 6", I didn't have one without a tire to check but I'd guess 7".

They do not have an H on them but that's why they make stamps.

Exact reproductions of 'H' wheels no, close enough to fool 90% of people, yes. Even has the dimples.

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Posted By: a12superbee

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/15/13 09:12 AM

Close up of the register. Not as loose as the old ford wheels on a mopar.

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Posted By: paris401

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/15/13 11:21 PM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!



thats ok..
i take that as a invite to start picking thier(sic) car apart!



And your poor spelling too.



should you not be hanging out in the A-body forum where u belong??



r. sack, your cars are owned by your wife.




i'm still confused...why ain't u on the A-body forum where u belong??
Posted By: formula_s

Re: Repro " H " wheels....... any news ????? - 05/16/13 02:15 AM

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What is the story with H wheels? I picked a pair of 15X8's a couple weeks ago with the H stamped on them, i remembered seeing threads on here about them but never understood what the big deal was with them.


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If you have an A12 car without H wheels,you will be looked down/frowned upon by all those that do have them !!



thats ok..
i take that as a invite to start picking thier(sic) car apart!



And your poor spelling too.



should you not be hanging out in the A-body forum where u belong??



r. sack, your cars are owned by your wife.




i'm still confused...why ain't u on the A-body forum where u belong??





Me too ron, you should be on the women's forum since you wife allegedly own your cars.
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