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AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome

Posted By: 69rrgrabber

AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/05/10 02:29 PM

Looking at rechroming a rear bumper for my 69 Charger. It is not dented but one of the bumperetts has rust. The cost of a new bumper is the same as rechroming the old, minus the hassel. Anyone have experience with the new AMD bumpers? Whats the quality like?

Thanks
CAC
Posted By: anlauto

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/05/10 02:35 PM

If the cost is truly the same then go with your original bumpers.
The reproduction Cuda ones are nice, but the chrome is never perfect I've used three sets.
The only reason I chose AMD bumpers is because the cost of re-chroming ones in Ontario Canada is absolutely crazy!
Posted By: Deuces-Wild

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/05/10 03:36 PM



Plus... repro is a lighter gauge.
Posted By: A34

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/05/10 04:48 PM

If it's a driver, repro is fine. If you want super duper high end quality, then redo an original set, but finding a good shop to do it can be tough.
Posted By: jbc426

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/05/10 05:07 PM

From what I've read and been told if you want the best, there's only one shop to consider. Keystone Automotive is the new name. They used to be called Northstar bumpers or something like that. They are in Wisconsin, (920)731-3030.
Posted By: Rosco

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/05/10 05:30 PM

Northstar is/was in Minn. has been bought by Keystone as far as I've been told.
Posted By: Neil

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/05/10 06:19 PM

I have owned both and there is a big difference in the finish quality of a repo bumper vs having one rechromed. A good chrome shop can make the chrome super flat and a mile deep like a wetsanded and buffed paint job.

Nice weekend only car you have a lot of $$$ and pride in = rechromed oem parts.

Daily driver, or car that is less pampered = reproduction bumpers.
Posted By: jbc426

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/05/10 06:42 PM

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Northstar is/was in Minn. has been bought by Keystone as far as I've been told.




I'm sending mine here:

Keystone Automotive(Northstar)
5085 Wren Dr.
Appleton, WI 54913
(920) 731-3030

On a side note, I just got my OE 1970 e-body chrome racing mirrors and some other parts back from Paul's Chrome. The quality is breathtaking! Jules "the wiperman" Daddo was king enough to have his glass guy cut and bevel some replacement mirror glass for them. I don't have the repops available to compare them to, but they are truely beautifully done.
Posted By: 65pacecar

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/05/10 06:59 PM

I agree, go with the rechome of the originals. Take a look at Tri-City Plating in Tn. near Bristol, they do very nice work for the money with a quick turn around.

Tri-City Plating
Posted By: QuickSilver

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 12:17 AM

North Star Plating in Minnesota is tops in my book! They did the rear bumper for my '65 Hemi Coronet and it is absolutely beautiful!!! Keep in mind I did all of my own metal straightening before I sent it to them. Not many companies left around that will give you that kind of persona;l service. I got it to where I was happy with it and then gave them instructions to just prep and plate and WOW! There are two divisions up there. The guy I spoke with is Chris and he was in charge of the antique bumper resto side of things. The chrome is nice deep blue and blemish free. Only cost me $409. Good Luck with yours! JC.
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 02:30 AM

Carl,...some of the guys are talking about the AMD E body bumpers here,...which had some fitment/chrome issuses, even on the second re-tooling,...but your interested in the CHARGER rear bumper,...I too was faced with the decision of spending $800 for triple plate, I already had about $3K invested in rechroming everything else ....So I chose to go with the AMD Charger rear bumper,...It really is a nice piece, the plateing was done rather well,....better than original/NOS,...although not as nice as triple plate,...but I was more interested in a "factory" appearance,...the bumperettes are included, everything lined up perfectly, and the bumper fit all the contours very well,...I used Stainless Steel bumper bolts, polished out, rather than chromed steel, the bumper has been on the car for about 6 years, seen plenty of miles on Hotrod Power Tours/ driven to cross country show tours, seen plenty of wet wether,...no signs of rust, or chrome fade/peeling

Mike

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Posted By: 69rrgrabber

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 05:47 AM

Everyone, thanks for the replys. Before I do anything I need to find a reputable chrome shop in Tucson. There are only 2 and I have heard bad things about one. Shipping the bumper and other parts needing rechroming really dosen't appeal to me but thanks for the reference. Chrome plating has gone up quite abit since the 80s when I last did chrome!

If I'm really impressed with the quality on my mirriors, door handles and 1/4 glass frames, then I'll let them do the bumper, otherwise the AMD bumper sounds like a bargain.

Mike, where did you find stainless steel bumper bolts?
Thanks
Carl
Posted By: 68-scatpack-rt

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 12:17 PM

i'd rechrome the original.

i tell my plater to keep all the original detail instead of polishing the crap out of my stuff and robbing it of it's original look. overpolished bling is cool for a street rod or harley but i would think replicating the original appearance of a musclecar item would take precedent over bling.
Posted By: smac77

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 01:40 PM


This question really depends on the plater.... I was doing a buick GS and had to have the bumpers re-chromed since no one makes them, I used cambridge custom chrome and paid $800 for the rear and $1250 to do the front as it was bent... when they came back, I compared them to an AMD repo I had on the shelf and they were no better in appearance... in fact my AMD repo looked a bit nicer... the rechromed one was a slight bit wavy looking and had some low spots... It looked ok but,for the price I paid (no choice) I was not happy with the rechrome... Another customer brought me parts done by the bumper boyz that were still all rusty and crusty under the chrome on the back side of the peice... horrible job !

choose your plater wisely and let them know up front, in writing that you will not accept anything but top quality work...
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 08:37 PM



Mike, where did you find stainless steel bumper bolts?
Thanks
Carl








Carl, IIRC they were Dorman mfg,....I believe I purchased them thru CarQuest, they were solid stainless, not stainless caps applied over steel bolts...

Mike
Posted By: LimeliteAero

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 09:07 PM

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i'd rechrome the original.

i tell my plater to keep all the original detail instead of polishing the crap out of my stuff and robbing it of it's original look. overpolished bling is cool for a street rod or harley but i would think replicating the original appearance of a musclecar item would take precedent over bling.




youre talking about a chrome bumper that might be too shiney? what looks bad about a shiney chrome bumper? Id rather have a too shiney bumper than one that I can see gring marks in through the crappy thin plating. I had the bumper on my bird triple plated in 1986 for a boat load of money and it still looks perfect.
Posted By: smmf

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 09:20 PM

Try Lakeside Plating in Conneaut, OH. (440) 599-2035. He did the bumpers on a 67 Charger I am working on. Under $475 each. Awesome job, near perfect and guaranteed for life (I think)
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 09:59 PM

Quote:

i'd rechrome the original.

i tell my plater to keep all the original detail instead of polishing the crap out of my stuff and robbing it of it's original look. overpolished bling is cool for a street rod or harley but i would think replicating the original appearance of a musclecar item would take precedent over bling.




and some people stare lovingly at orange peel because, after all, the factory produced it that way...
Posted By: LimeliteAero

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 11:04 PM

Quote:

Quote:

i'd rechrome the original.

i tell my plater to keep all the original detail instead of polishing the crap out of my stuff and robbing it of it's original look. overpolished bling is cool for a street rod or harley but i would think replicating the original appearance of a musclecar item would take precedent over bling.




and some people stare lovingly at orange peel because, after all, the factory produced it that way...




Posted By: 68-scatpack-rt

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 11:40 PM

Quote:

Quote:

i'd rechrome the original.

i tell my plater to keep all the original detail instead of polishing the crap out of my stuff and robbing it of it's original look. overpolished bling is cool for a street rod or harley but i would think replicating the original appearance of a musclecar item would take precedent over bling.




youre talking about a chrome bumper that might be too shiney? what looks bad about a shiney chrome bumper? Id rather have a too shiney bumper than one that I can see gring marks in through the crappy thin plating. I had the bumper on my bird triple plated in 1986 for a boat load of money and it still looks perfect.




have it your way if that's what you like but an over polished bumper looks just as lame as a rusty one in my opinion. i never said to have grind marks showing but rather to leave the original detail.....big difference and one that makes a car look like it should rather than a bling bling turd.

i know i'm new here but this seems to be a no brainer to me. go roll your eyes at someone else. the op asked for opinions and i gave mine.
Posted By: 68-scatpack-rt

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 09/06/10 11:44 PM

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This question really depends on the plater.... I was doing a buick GS and had to have the bumpers re-chromed since no one makes them, I used cambridge custom chrome and paid $800 for the rear and $1250 to do the front as it was bent... when they came back, I compared them to an AMD repo I had on the shelf and they were no better in appearance... in fact my AMD repo looked a bit nicer... the rechromed one was a slight bit wavy looking and had some low spots... It looked ok but,for the price I paid (no choice) I was not happy with the rechrome... Another customer brought me parts done by the bumper boyz that were still all rusty and crusty under the chrome on the back side of the peice... horrible job !

choose your plater wisely and let them know up front, in writing that you will not accept anything but top quality work...




the reason it looks "wavy' is that the plater over polished it. he tried to remove deep imperfections and in doing so had to polish so much metal away that it leaves a low spot in the surface. when plated the low spot appears "wavy".
Posted By: moparjohnnycuda

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/06/19 05:22 PM

Good to know
Posted By: 6PKRTSE

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/06/19 07:13 PM

I bought the AMD repros for my Challenger fit & finish were great. Much better looking then my 40+ year old bumpers that came off. I am not concours show poodle kind of guy so they suit my car just fine.

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Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/06/19 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By 6PKRTSE
I bought the AMD repros for my Challenger fit & finish were great. Much better looking then my 40+ year old bumpers that came off. I am not concours show poodle kind of guy so they suit my car just fine.


Not a show poodle, but would probably be the favorite car at most shows it attends. LOL.
Posted By: JMCFAN

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/06/19 08:06 PM

I used Ogden on my original 70 RR bumpers.... awesome job
Posted By: robertop

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/09/19 03:38 PM

Ogden did my bumpers few years ago and I am very happy with them. Less than $400 each and they pick up and deliver! Not to mention they are perfect....(69 roadrunner).
Posted By: AAR#2

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/09/19 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By robertop
Ogden did my bumpers few years ago and I am very happy with them. Less than $400 each and they pick up and deliver! Not to mention they are perfect....(69 roadrunner).


I contacted Ogden a little over a year ago, they quoted me $700 a bumper and free shipment . . . As a starting point, anything less than perfect would be an upcharge. While I agree they do great work I wasn’t willing to sent a front and rear Cuda bumper for a starting price of $1400, God forbid they find anything that needed attention, I could have been at 18-2k in a hurry

Needless to say I went elsewhere
Posted By: Silver70

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/10/19 04:10 AM

I use amd or goodmark, when I checked on going with rechroming, it was more to do 1 bumper than buy 2 new, plus the wait. I know you can do exchanges also, but last time I did that, I got a bumper that looked like someone took an air hammer to on the backside to straighten.
Posted By: Bull1tt

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/24/19 02:57 AM

Originally Posted By Silver70
I use amd or goodmark, when I checked on going with rechroming, it was more to do 1 bumper than buy 2 new, plus the wait. I know you can do exchanges also, but last time I did that, I got a bumper that looked like someone took an air hammer to on the backside to straighten.


Sure, you get some marks on the inside of rechromed bumpers. They (most) have been straightened! As long as the outside finish is good. Who sees that once on a car?
I have bought quite a few bumpers from Tri-City Plating, and always very happy with price and quality. If I have a real nice core, I will get that one back. I’ve put my name on the inside, that’s how I know. I think they are the best buy!
I had an early Pontiac that Paul’s plated the front bumper, it looked like a piece of jewelry! No waves, or defects, perfect, over the top showcar, just beautiful... but $1700 dollars for that look.
I honestly am not impressed with most of the reproduction bumper chrome, look a bit cheap to me. And of course, this is just my personal opinion...
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/24/19 05:45 AM

Originally Posted By Bull1tt

I honestly am not impressed with most of the reproduction bumper chrome, look a bit cheap to me. And of course, this is just my personal opinion...



Repro bumpers are just nickel and chromium, just like OEM, hence the production (cheap) look, we've all been spoiled over the decades with OCD quality triple chrome (copper/nickel/chromium) finishes on restored vehicles, we've forgotten what OEM "production" vehicles of the era really had for finish quality...
Posted By: TONY_DAGOSTINO

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/24/19 05:45 PM

Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By Bull1tt

I honestly am not impressed with most of the reproduction bumper chrome, look a bit cheap to me. And of course, this is just my personal opinion...



Repro bumpers are just nickel and chromium, just like OEM, hence the production (cheap) look, we've all been spoiled over the decades with OCD quality triple chrome (copper/nickel/chromium) finishes on restored vehicles, we've forgotten what OEM "production" vehicles of the era really had for finish quality...


great point,
but i do notice that oem chrome lasts longer then the triple rechrome.
maybe the nickel + chromium is thicker??
Posted By: Kilrbee

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 02/26/19 01:45 AM

I have just had 2 sets of Coronet bumpers done at Keystone, They are great to work with also! I sent the cores in and they stripped and straightened them then shipped them back and I sanded the press marks out of the backsides and sent them back for the plating. They came back and look very nice!!
Posted By: moparjohnnycuda

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 03/15/19 03:03 PM

I just bought a rear bumper for my 70 RR, went with AMD because i thought they were the most popular.
They look pretty good ,but there are grind marks when you look from the side.
also the reverse light holes and plate bracket did not line up at all.
i had to re-drill all of that to fit.
the car is in paint shop until next week hopefully they mount on the car ok.

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Posted By: 68Cbarge

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 03/15/19 03:19 PM

I agree it is up to the skills of the rechromer.
The better the core,the better the end results.
Since nobody repops any C body schtuff I got my bumpers done by
Sandy's Bumper Mart.been dealing with them for about 10-15 years.
http://www.sandysbumpermart.com/
Cost was half of Cambridge Chrome even with the CDN/U.S. dollar exchange rate.
I am two hours away from their shop so I drove there to avoid shipping and any damage from shipping.

High quality street chrome-not Pebble Beach but my car still took home trophies from Carlisle and Mopar Madness shows last summer.



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Posted By: moparjohnnycuda

Re: AMD Bumpers vs Rechrome - 03/23/19 02:21 PM

well i got the car back ,lets see how the rear AMD bumper fits

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