Posted By: indytex96
72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/17/10 10:01 PM
Ordered a 4-bow headliner and got all my bows in the loops making sure they are in the correct order and side to side but after numerous attempts to install bows on the car they will not line up properly. Started thinking maybe the headliner was wrong so I took measurements off the center bows which were new one 17" apart, old 14" apart at the seams. Also took some measurements off my 74 SE Charger and it was also at 14". Is there something I am overlooking? Anyone have another 72 they can measure? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Posted By: scatcity
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/18/10 03:05 AM
I just picked up a 72 Satellite, and a new 4 bow headliner as well. I can check for you tomorrow if we go visit her. Is there anything else you need to know aside from the 14" VS. 17" info? Tommy
Posted By: indytex96
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/18/10 03:49 AM
No not yet, just some measurements. Thanks!
Posted By: PLUM BAD
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/18/10 02:45 PM
I think you may be trying to install it backwards. The center bow forward is 14 center bow rear is 17.
Posted By: scatcity
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/18/10 02:51 PM
Now the backwards situation sure sounds logical...Good call....
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/18/10 03:23 PM
A friend is missing his '72 RR bows, are Charger headliner bows the same?
Posted By: scatcity
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/18/10 07:32 PM
OK here's the deal...You're missing the "listing wire retainer clips". The "listings" ARE the bows themselves which have erroniously been called "bows" forever. I have the 72 FSM which shows, in great detail, the correct procedure for both removal and installation of the headling in both fabric and hardboards as well. In in the 1972 BODY SERVICE MANUAL IN section 4 under INTERIOR TRIM AND SEAT. I'm going to attempt to scan this and post it but when it comes to posting on here I'm traumatized to the point of giving up. Brian, I will scan and e mail the procedure to you. You do need quite the array of clips to properly install this liner. Without them it's virtually impossible. Good luck. Tommy
Posted By: scatcity
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/18/10 08:01 PM
Attempts to post this procedure from the FSM have proved futile. If any-one out there can jazz this up for all to see I can e-mail it to you. Posting pics up here have never been my specialty and I've never actually sat down to figure it out. Can some-one recommend an easy and good way to post pics (yes, been asked by a few,,,I know). These FSM's are volumes of information and I strongly advise all of those who do not have theirs for owned vehicles to obtain them. Basically they're priceless and actually show the CORRECT way to handle things without killing some-one...or worse....
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/18/10 09:05 PM
here are the scans from "scatcity"
Posted By: indytex96
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/19/10 01:43 AM
If I am indeed installing it backwards my new headliner is wider on one end than the other and I tried installing it with the wider end to the rear. Does anyone know if this is correct? Also as stated earlier I was told I need the listing retainers, but I haven't seen these offered anywhere and the one article I pulled up on installing headliner in a 71 Rrunner made no mention of these. Only showed sticking bars in the holes and standing up, anyone done one of these lately that knows? Thanks!
Posted By: scatcity
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/19/10 02:07 AM
Brian, see figure # 12 on the FSM..attatchment # 4 a coupla posts upward...You may be needing the "listing wire " AND "support wire" that attatch to the side rail retainers as well. Like I said, without all the proper hardware you'll be flapping around like a rag doll on a windy Kansas day....
Posted By: scatcity
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/19/10 02:30 AM
Brian, re-read the better scans I sent you, a couple of the first batch oversized somehow. The FSM is quite clear on how to do this both removal and installation why kill yourself searching the net on how to do this??? They are clear now. Being I'm fairly green in the 72 B body arena, is any-one aware if there was an April or whatever month change or any FSB making this headliner available to the public in the "Hardboard" style? I'm aware it wouldn't change the roof style but, If it was, and your car had it, that would just open up a bigger can of worms for your hardware needs. Please let us know when you get to the bottom of this whole situation.
Posted By: reallybigtim
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/19/10 12:25 PM
I hired a hot rod interior specialist with over 30 years experience to install the headliner in my '72 RR because I had never installed one before. He had some difficulties doing the job and when he had finished, it just didn't look right. I finally pulled it back down myself and discovered that he had installed it backwards. Once I turned it around, it fit perfectly. I had to turn the offset-mounted dome light around to cover the incorrectly placed hole cut but everything looks beautiful and there are no wrinkles anywhere. I thought that I was going to learn how to install a headliner from this "professional". And I did. Good luck!!!
Posted By: indytex96
Re: 72 Roadrunner Headliner - 07/19/10 01:27 PM
Did yours have any clips on the bows or were they just stabbed in the holes?
Hold the phone here, no clips used on the 72' 2dr b-bodies. The bows fit directly into the roof supports, three holes of varying heights at each location. Installation starts at the rear-most bow and works forward, two smaller wire retainers anchor the rear bow to the support above back glass.
