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"Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be?

Posted By: A12

"Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/01/10 07:07 AM

Were "Sales Bank" cars already built and in a hold area at the Chrysler plant or near by and then cars drawn from that "bank" of vehicles if it matched an order or was needed for a project?


MikeR
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/01/10 07:25 AM

In some cases, yes.

Y16 cars were built through out the year, so some sat while others got delivered right away if there was a 'match'.

Some original owners have reported that the car they 'ordered' showed up at the dealership with one or two items not right. Exact car, but without a radio when they ordered one, that kind of thing.

If they had a close match already built, they would send it.

I have seen a few 'customer ordered' cars that have Y16 on the broadcast sheet.
Posted By: A12

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 01:17 AM

Thanks Barry. What about in the case of an A12 in early 1969 which were said to be "Sales Bank" 383 cars or at the least the first scheduled 200 - 1000 initially planned for the most part? Did they remove the 383, the standard 4-speed, 8-3/4 diff, the non-"Hemi" suspension (i.e., torsion bars, add a leaf spring or two) or in other words did they "un-build" the Sales Bank cars to add the A12 option package components?


MikeR
Posted By: A12

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 01:27 AM

On a Lynch Road Broadcast sheet for 1969 what's the code for a "Sold Car" versus a "Sales Bank" car (in the same block) Is 4 a Sold Car and 6 a Sales Bank.....I know lots of dumb questions but wait there's more to come


(I see the Y and the 1 so I'm playing dumb here, well maybe not )

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Posted By: MuscleMopars

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 01:32 AM

Quote:

On a Lynch Road Broadcast sheet for 1969 what's the code for a "Sold Car" versus a "Sales Bank" car (in the same block) Is 4 a Sold Car and 6 a Sales Bank.....I know lots of dumb questions but wait there's more to come


(I see the Y and the 1 so I'm playing dumb here, well maybe not )



What's it mean when there are no codes in the "Y" section of the broadcast sheet?
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 01:36 AM

Y1 - 4 Sold car.

Y1 - 6 Sales Bank.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 01:42 AM

Quote:

Thanks Barry. What about in the case of an A12 in early 1969 which were said to be "Sales Bank" 383 cars or at the least the first scheduled 200 - 1000 initially planned for the most part? Did they remove the 383, the standard 4-speed, 8-3/4 diff, the non-"Hemi" suspension (i.e., torsion bars, add a leaf spring or two) or in other words did they "un-build" the Sales Bank cars to add the A12 option package components?


MikeR




I do not know, I study 1970 models & coding for the most part.

I have seen paperwork for some A12 cars that were actually ordered & the VON was changed from the original dealer paperwork to a Chrysler assigned VON.

I tried talking the person that has them out of them, but no luck.
Posted By: A12

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 05:15 PM

How many departments in the main assembly plant used a broadcast sheet? I read the Lynch Road Assembly plant story and know about the big one on the front but what about the broadcast sheet the size of the most commonly one found in the seat back, even if it never made it on the car. It seems there many more that size, one in each department except for Body-in-White, paint and rust proofing and......? Anyone know how many (approximately 8-1/2" x 11") broadcast sheets per car where used?
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 05:40 PM

I know of a Lynch Road built Road Runner with 3 different 8 1/2" x 11" Broadcast sheets plus it has one of the huge Final Line Broadcast sheets.
One of the three has a totally different font.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 06:29 PM

I have heard that 80-85 broadcast sheets were printed for each car in the different departments.

The text at the top 'Chrysler Corporation Car Production Broadcast' quite literally broadcast what was needed to make that particular car to all the sub-assembly areas.

What tires on what wheels, what VIN to put on what color dash, etc, etc.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 06:30 PM

Each department had its own printer, that is why some sheets have different fonts.
Posted By: A12

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 06:32 PM

Quote:

I know of a Lynch Road built Road Runner with 3 different 8 1/2" x 11" Broadcast sheets plus it has one of the huge Final Line Broadcast sheets.
One of the three has a totally different font.



Hey Dave, thanks. Do you know if there is anything different between the three similar size broadcast sheets like something on one or two of them that's missing from the other? Something added or changed or just different between them?


MikeR
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 03/02/10 07:20 PM

From memory it seems that the Sequential Number was different on all three Broadcast sheets.
I don't recall any other differences other than font. I'd have to have all three of them sitting next to each other to look for anything else.
Posted By: Moparman!

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 09/29/21 05:18 AM

Hi is there a particular fender tag code or number for a sales bank car. 1973 cuda? Would it be on the fender tag?
Posted By: BeeOrange

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 09/29/21 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleMopars
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What's it mean when there are no codes in the "Y" section of the broadcast sheet?



I have a 70 Super Bee with an 11-August of 1969 build date and no codes in the "Y" section. I was told by the original owner that he purchased the car in August of 1970 as a left over, and if memory serves, the car had around 2000-3000 miles on it.

I read somewhere no "Y" code meant the car was ordered for use by a dealership? That doesn't make sense to me as there is a code for dealer demonstrator. Anyone know the real story on the no "Y" code question?
Posted By: A12

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 09/30/21 01:46 AM

shock smile Thanks for bringing this thread back to life up

Mike
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 09/30/21 06:46 PM

Sales bank, that could explain my 66 Belvedere, it came down the line with no radio but one was hacked in later (someone punched a small hole above hinge for the antenna wire), and looked like tinted glass was added also, no other options.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 10/03/21 04:29 PM

BeeOrange,

Can you get a closeup photo of your Y section to post? (no need to see the whole sheet)

Some cars were Y14 & Y16 at the same time, and there was not a separate Y code for that.

On the Advance Dealer Shipping Order, both Y codes were called out though, these cars had deposits put down at time of order for lot stock.

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Posted By: BeeOrange

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 10/04/21 02:10 AM

[align:right][/align]Hi Barry,

Picture of Y code area and a picture of the window sticker. The window sticker is a picture of a photocopy. I think it was a picture of the original though it could have been a reproduction. I did verify the original owner purchased the car in August of 1970 from the dealer listed on the window sticker

Thank you for your help on this

Grace and peace

Gardner

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Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 10/04/21 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Moparman!
Hi is there a particular fender tag code or number for a sales bank car. 1973 cuda? Would it be on the fender tag?


there is nothing on a fender tag for a '73 'cuda that would indicate it was a Y16 - "sales bank" car

- I have not seen a '73 broadcast sheet that calls it out either shruggy
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 10/04/21 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by BeeOrange
I have a 70 Super Bee with an 11-August of 1969 build date and no codes in the "Y" section. I was told by the original owner that he purchased the car in August of 1970 as a left over, and if memory serves, the car had around 2000-3000 miles on it.

I read somewhere no "Y" code meant the car was ordered for use by a dealership? That doesn't make sense to me as there is a code for dealer demonstrator. Anyone know the real story on the no "Y" code question?


for 1970 St. Louis broadcast sheets, it appears there are 3 OPTIONS for the "Y1_" SALES BANK SOLD CAR box in the upper right
if no contradictory Y-codes are present in the VEHICLE DELIVERY AND HANDLING section:

"blank" = a car ordered by a dealership for dealer inventory
"4" = Y14 = a car ordered at a dealership by a customer "expedited"
"6" = Y16 = a car spec'd by a Chrysler employee (to keep the plant's assembly lines moving)
Posted By: 70gtx440dana

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 10/04/21 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by BeeOrange
[align:right][/align]Hi Barry,

Picture of Y code area and a picture of the window sticker. The window sticker is a picture of a photocopy. I think it was a picture of the original though it could have been a reproduction. I did verify the original owner purchased the car in August of 1970 from the dealer listed on the window sticker

Thank you for your help on this

Grace and peace

Gardner


Wow...that car was at dealer for an entire year.
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 10/04/21 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by 6bblgt
Originally Posted by BeeOrange
I have a 70 Super Bee with an 11-August of 1969 build date and no codes in the "Y" section. I was told by the original owner that he purchased the car in August of 1970 as a left over, and if memory serves, the car had around 2000-3000 miles on it.

I read somewhere no "Y" code meant the car was ordered for use by a dealership? That doesn't make sense to me as there is a code for dealer demonstrator. Anyone know the real story on the no "Y" code question?


for 1970 St. Louis broadcast sheets, it appears there are 3 OPTIONS for the "Y1_" SALES BANK SOLD CAR box in the upper right
if no contradictory Y-codes are present in the VEHICLE DELIVERY AND HANDLING section:

"blank" = a car ordered by a dealership for dealer inventory
"4" = Y14 = a car ordered at a dealership by a customer "expedited"
"6" = Y16 = a car spec'd by a Chrysler employee (to keep the plant's assembly lines moving)


Mine said “expedited” what does that mean? Anything other than ordered by customer?
Posted By: BeeOrange

Re: "Sales Bank" cars were they built or scheduled to be? - 10/07/21 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by 6bblgt
Originally Posted by BeeOrange
I have a 70 Super Bee with an 11-August of 1969 build date and no codes in the "Y" section. I was told by the original owner that he purchased the car in August of 1970 as a left over, and if memory serves, the car had around 2000-3000 miles on it.

I read somewhere no "Y" code meant the car was ordered for use by a dealership? That doesn't make sense to me as there is a code for dealer demonstrator. Anyone know the real story on the no "Y" code question?


for 1970 St. Louis broadcast sheets, it appears there are 3 OPTIONS for the "Y1_" SALES BANK SOLD CAR box in the upper right
if no contradictory Y-codes are present in the VEHICLE DELIVERY AND HANDLING section:

"blank" = a car ordered by a dealership for dealer inventory
"4" = Y14 = a car ordered at a dealership by a customer "expedited"
"6" = Y16 = a car spec'd by a Chrysler employee (to keep the plant's assembly lines moving)



Interesting. Thank you for the information!

Yes the car was at the dealer for about a year. The car got lucky: The original owner got out of the Navy, returned home to Ames Iowa, bought the car and immediately took it to Norfolk Virginia to start his civilian job working at the Naval Shipyard. Kept the car out of the Iowa snow smile He had the car for from August 1970 to summer of 1990, I acquired it in 1998.

I included a picture of the selling dealer, looks like sometime in 1969 going by the Chargers on the lot. Building still stands, but not a dealer now. I researched the business on the internet and over the phone with Ames Iowa City Hall. The people were so nice and helpful! Sent me faxes with information on the dealership, street address, etc.

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