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70 Coronet full 1/4 panels !
Posted By: demon
70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 03:25 AM
Now I got your attention. Let's get together and request AMD to make 1/4 panels for all our 70 Coronets ! They make them for all the 68,69,70,71,72 MoPars EXCEPT for the 70 Coronets. Come on everyone. If you need 1/4's for your 70 Dodge post on here and email or call AMD to help get this happening. AMD has been awesome,bringing all these panels out. Let's get this happening!
Posted By: HemiDave
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 03:41 AM
Man, you almost made me have an accident!!!
I agree! I see SO MANY people with 70 Superbee/R/T/Coronet in their signature, I don't know why this hasn't happened yet!
I need FULL quarters. Skins ain't gonna make it...
If this happens, I will buy both quarters, some 68 Bee patch panels, some 68 Charger patch panels, some 70 Roadrunner full quarters and some A body Cuda patch panels in the SAME ORDER!!
So PLEASE get this done AMD!!
Dave
Posted By: chargervert
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 01:43 PM
You guys got the right idea,if you want to see AMD make those panels,a few things are going to have to happen. You 70 Coronet guys need to get on all the Mopar/B body forums,and post a thread just like you did here. If AMD gets 50 or 60 calls a month from different people requesting them,they will see that there is a market for these parts,and then they may step up and make them! When you guys start calling them,request that they put all you guys on a list requesting the parts,not unlike a political petition,if they see some decent numbers,I think they will step up for you! The other thing,is that someone who has some NOS/rust free originals,is going to have to offer up the parts to be templated. AMD will usually either trade the parts for other parts,borrow the part,if it can be templated,without damaging it,or buy the part outright from the person that has them. The better the parts that are offered up,the better fit they will have when produced. The better parts offered,will lower tooling costs for AMD,and will get them to make the most acurate the first time,this cuts down the wait time that is needed to test fit the parts for accuracy,thus getting the part to the market faster. It took 4 times retooling/test fitting to get the 71/72 Plymouth B body rear quarter panels to fit correctly. Retooling is costly,and time consuming. I offered my 70 Charger NOS front valence to AMD to template,and now the part is ready for release. The final thing is that you guys have to step up and buy the product,and support this vendor who has done so much for this hobby! I just ordered 3 grand worth of Charger sheetmetal yesterday!
Posted By: 340dart4spd
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 05:27 PM
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You guys got the right idea,if you want to see AMD make those panels,a few things are going to have to happen. You 70 Coronet guys need to get on all the Mopar/B body forums,and post a thread just like you did here. If AMD gets 50 or 60 calls a month from different people requesting them,they will see that there is a market for these parts,and then they may step up and make them! When you guys start calling them,request that they put all you guys on a list requesting the parts,not unlike a political petition,if they see some decent numbers,I think they will step up for you! The other thing,is that someone who has some NOS/rust free originals,is going to have to offer up the parts to be templated. AMD will usually either trade the parts for other parts,borrow the part,if it can be templated,without damaging it,or buy the part outright from the person that has them. The better the parts that are offered up,the better fit they will have when produced. The better parts offered,will lower tooling costs for AMD,and will get them to make the most acurate the first time,this cuts down the wait time that is needed to test fit the parts for accuracy,thus getting the part to the market faster. It took 4 times retooling/test fitting to get the 71/72 Plymouth B body rear quarter panels to fit correctly. Retooling is costly,and time consuming. I offered my 70 Charger NOS front valence to AMD to template,and now the part is ready for release. The final thing is that you guys have to step up and buy the product,and support this vendor who has done so much for this hobby! I just ordered 3 grand worth of Charger sheetmetal yesterday!
Where the few but proud 70 Coronet owners
I don't think it will happen anytime soon... but hey can't hurt to try...
Be glad you Coronet owners were not trying to restore on 15 years ago... there was alomst no body parts available
Posted By: chargervert
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 06:05 PM
I can tell you this,you Coronet owners will have a lot better chance of seeing them made,if someone offers up the peices to template them from,than if AMD had to go look for them,you guys will have to wait a lot longer,if ever! If some wants to step up and offer up parts,and then the rest of you 70 Coronet owners get on the phone and start inquiring about them,and I mean as many of you as possible,then you may get AMD to step up and make them. When I offered them my valance for the 70 Charger,they were not intending to make them,but with a nice part right in their hands to templte from,they jumped at the chance to make them. I cannot believe the guys,that don't use AMD full rear quarter panels,thinking their saving money,buying those $300.00 skins instead! If you have to pay a body shop to put them on,you will pay more in labor,than just buying the full quarters. After you weld a 5 foot plus seam down the side of the car,then it has to be blended,with filler,and with the stress thats put on the body,if you have a strong driveline in the car,will make this seam suseptable to cracking. I'd rather put the full quarter on,and blend it at the factory seams,and be done with it!
I put a pair of Goodmark rear quarter panels on my 70 Challenger,before the AMD ones were available,and they are like tinfoil compaired to the AMD rear quarter panel I just put on my 70 Charger R/T SE. I leaned on the Goodmark Challenger rear quarter panel on the Challenger,with my palm,so I could clamp it to the outer wheelhouse,and I dented it.that would never happen with the AMD peice,its a lot thicker metal,even more thick than the originals!
Posted By: OLD318
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 06:28 PM
Add my name to the list...
I've been begging them for the last 2 years...
I've called them multiple times and they claim there is not enough of a market...
I totally disagree...
There are hundreds of 70 Coronets still left and even though a significant portion of them have already been restored with skins. Almost all could benefit from new quarter panels if they were available.
The skins do not cut it I don't care how nice the rest of the car looks.
I have a skin on my drivers side that makes me sick...I would buy a drivers side in a heartbeat.
and I would pay premium dollar to get it...
I don't care if AMD charges double for a 70 panel over what they charge for a 68-69...just as long as they make them!
I also want them to build the 71-74 charger bulge hood and 73-74 charger full quarter panels too...
I hear they are building the early 63-65 B-Body full quarter panels... I can't believe there are more cars in that range that people want to restore vs. a 70 coronets but that's just me!
****** COUNT ME IN ******************
I'll sign anywhere!
Posted By: chargervert
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 07:00 PM
Like I said,someone who's been hording the parts,has to offer up,and the other owners have to show them there is a market! AMD will be way more likely to make the part if they have nice parts to template them from. AMD is in buisness to sell parts. They are spending a fortune tooling up parts for us during a dismal economy! AMD would like nothing more than to make every part that the hobby desires,but if they go out of buisness doing it,we will all be out of luck! They are Mopar and AMC guys,if not for that fact,I don't think we would have seen all the great parts that they have alredy made for us. They have earned,and deserve our full support!
Posted By: demon
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 07:39 PM
If AMD does make 70 Coronet 1/4 panels,they will sell a lot of other parts too. Since they use the same inner panels as other b bodies,they would sell all the other panels like trunk floors,interior floors,wheel houses etc. A lot of guys like me are not buying all the inner panels because I don't want to sink a bunch of money and time into my Super Bee and then be stuck putting those lousy skins on. If AMD makes 1/4s,they will also sell a pile of other parts too.
Posted By: HemiDave
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 08:40 PM
I was discussing this with an AMD rep a while back and I sent him the link to the 70 Bee/Coronet/R/T picture thread on the General Board to show how popular they are.
Dave
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 08:52 PM
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The skins do not cut it I don't care how nice the rest of the car looks.
You and I have had this discussion before; I totally agree that the skins are not great and would love it if AMD made a full quarter panel, BUT I have the original quarter on the drivers side and a repop skin on the passenger side (albeit with the original scoop and marker light area welded in) and I defy you to tell the difference........but I paid ALOT of money in additional metal and bodywork to make that happen.
I looked for several years for an NOS passenger quarter to no avail.... 
Again; I'm not saying the skins are good, only that a skilled metal and body man can do a good job with one if he is given enough time to do so. My bodyman was obsessive enough that he wanted the light reflections in the paint to look the same from side to side and panel to panel....
Then again, I remember seeing an old timer european metal fabricator MAKE a quarter for a '56 Thunderbird from a flat sheet!
Dave
Posted By: 70runner
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 09:09 PM
Same reason they don't repro any B body convertible quarters. I offered them my 70RR convertible NOS quarter for a template, probably last one on the planet. They politely declined, "not enough market".
Posted By: chargervert
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/06/10 09:25 PM
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Same reason they don't repro any B body convertible quarters. I offered them my 70RR convertible NOS quarter for a template, probably last one on the planet. They politely declined, "not enough market".
I did the same thing when Goodmark first started offering Challenger rearquarter panels. I had a pair of 70/71 convertible Challenger NOS rear quarters. I got the same response. Don't let that discourage you guys from offering up other peices though. They have recieved alot of calls for 73/74 Road Runner rear quarterpanels,and their going to be next on the list to be made. You 70 Coronet guys need to get on the phone in great numbers and make the calls!
Posted By: demon
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/08/10 04:41 AM
1/4 panels are the only body part missing now for 70 coronets. There are reproduction rad supports,inner fenders,doors,rocker panels,roof skins,full floor pans,full trunkfloors,outer wheelhouses,trunk extensions,rear crossmembers,shock crossmembers,frame rails etc all made by AMD.But no 1/4 panels.
Fenders,hoods,trunklids and tail panels can all be used from 4 doors but we NEED 1/4 panels. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Come on eveyone,contact AMD and convince them to make these much needed panels.
Posted By: QuickSilver
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/08/10 01:45 PM
Dave, you have hit the nail right on the head with this one. No the quarter panel skins are not quite the full answer however, in the hands of a proper body/metal man they can be installed to absolute perfection. I learned a long time ago that when you can't buy what you need you just make what you need. I was doing 68-69 Coronet body panels before anything was available. And trust me when I say that after so many patches it soon becomes an art form. It really irks me when I browse some of these high dollar resto shops and the first thing you see is the original quarters have been cut off without any regards to just repairing what's there already. Yes it will always cost more to do it this way but you still have the integrity of the unibody intact and no ugly insides where the skins have been installed. Yes I can also install the skins with little hint that it was even done when you run into that case when the panel is so damaged it is beyond repair but a lot of the quarters I see can be saved. That's the differance between a restorer and a regular body shop. As a restorer I am always concerned with saving as much of the original car as humanly possible. Here's a great example. My customer bought a very clean 69 R/T charger out of Montana and it did have a very shoddy repaint and some hideous body work to go along with it but it was truly a rust free car. I completely stripped the car only to find the right side quarter had been hit between the door and wheel opening and it was full of dent puller holes and bondo 3/4" thick. The customer thought a new quarter panel was needed. After much discussion I got him to slow down a minute and just let me do my thing. Next thing you know I have all of the damage worked out and the holes welded up and a good amount of shrinking. Surprisingly it only took a little bit of body solder to bring it all around and you would never know it was wrecked. I did go over the whole car and massaged everything that was wrong and then applied a fresh coat of F5 green metallic and my customer was a happy camper! And the car still retains all of it's own sheet metal! By all means get on the phones to you AMD reps and tell them what you need but then maybe there are a few of you out there that just need a good metal man.
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/08/10 04:34 PM
great job; good metal crafters like you are hard to find and I totally agree that more useable metal is cut out of cars than necessary most of the time. My instruction to my guys was to save every pce of original metal wherever possible. I even had them cut a pce about 2" x 5" out of a repop panel to fix a small spot on the drivers floor rather than simply hack the whole thing out and replace it.....it would have been easier, but this was far better IMO.
I think we threw out more lbs of repop metal than we used.....
My passenger 1/4 was hit at some point and it looked like they used a ball peen hammer to beat it back into shape and then slathered it with filler up to 1/2" thick!
I talked to the shop about trying to fix it but they convinced me that it was too far gone........I kinda wish I pushed the issue more; sounds like you could have done it.
..keep up the great work!
Dave
Posted By: demon
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/08/10 06:21 PM
I agree to saving the original parts whenever possible,but that doesn't apply to every car. Many cars being restored now need full panels. Some cars have no floors left except the driveshaft tunnel itself. I sure would not want 4 partial floor panels put in to simply save the original driveshaft tunnel portion.
Same goes for 1/4 panels. If it is a straightforward dent or lower patch then repair is a good choice, but some of our cars have major damage or rust from the door to the rear bumper plus patched up repairs already. I agree to not disturbing the entire panel on some cars, yet some definitely need full panels. Every situation is different and it is up to the individual to decide which way to go.
I have used the 70 Coronet skins that have been available for 20 years and they just are not accurate enough or heavy enough for most guys wanting a quality job. They do make a suitable repair panel,but just are not up to the quality that most of us want nowdays.
Having used AMD full quarters,they are the answer to our prayers in the MoPar world.
We simply want AMD to make quality full 1/4 panels for 70 Coronets like they do for nearly every other MoPar.
Posted By: BIRDS&BEES
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/08/10 09:25 PM
Hi everyone, this is my FIRST post on Moparts.
Long time lurker, just never bothered to register.
I work at Rocket Restorations with Mike and Tom.
A big Howdy to those I've met over the years.
Yep I agree about those 1/4 panels.
I have 2 '70 Bee projects that need 'em and a '70 Coronet 440 hot rod that could use patches.
C'mon AMD, get stampin'! Y'all make great stuff!
Posted By: OLD318
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/08/10 10:36 PM
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The skins do not cut it I don't care how nice the rest of the car looks.
You and I have had this discussion before; I totally agree that the skins are not great and would love it if AMD made a full quarter panel, BUT I have the original quarter on the drivers side and a repop skin on the passenger side (albeit with the original scoop and marker light area welded in) and I defy you to tell the difference........but I paid ALOT of money in additional metal and bodywork to make that happen.
I looked for several years for an NOS passenger quarter to no avail....
Again; I'm not saying the skins are good, only that a skilled metal and body man can do a good job with one if he is given enough time to do so. My bodyman was obsessive enough that he wanted the light reflections in the paint to look the same from side to side and panel to panel....
Then again, I remember seeing an old timer european metal fabricator MAKE a quarter for a '56 Thunderbird from a flat sheet!
Dave
I thought the point of this post was to garner enough interest
or at least get a good guage for the amount interest that exists out there,
to hopefully try and prod AMD to produce 70
Coronet OEM Style quarter panels.
Not to rave about how nice a skin can be made to look!
or how nice it happens to look on your car.
I'm sure with enough time and money,
and yes a very skilled metal man,
you can get these to look as good as you want to pay for...
But let' face it If skins were so good,
then why did AMD, Goodmark and the other place (that did the charger quarter panels)
ante up and create factory style quarter panels for every other car except ours?
Why?,,, because skins SU&&!
The point is,
Why should the average guy pay 40-100 hours (or more) on labor to get a
skin shaped, sculpted, hammered, dollied, shrunk,
bondo'd,
sanded and formed to look like a factory one
When he could weld on a OEM style quarter in 16 hours?
(Thats the book time on the 70 Coronet crash sheets to do a complete R&R of a factory Quarter Panel)
Granted,
if you have the money to pay someone to do this,
God bless you!
If the skin looks gorgeous when its done...
God bless you a hundred times!
If your 70 Coronet project car just happens
to be one of the 1% of the remaining cars on
the face of the earth that just happens to have an excellent rear clip on it to start with...
God bless you a thousand times!
(go buy a lotto ticket while your at it cuz your a lucky man!)
For the rest of us...
Who don't have this kind of coin,
this kind of car
or access to gods gift to metal men...
Join us in prodding AMD to build us one!
All AMD needs to hear is 1 or 2 of us rave about
a skin and we will have ZERO chance of getting OEM Style quarters made.
(Perhaps Zero is really all the chance we have anyway,,regardless)...
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/08/10 11:40 PM
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The skins do not cut it I don't care how nice the rest of the car looks.
You and I have had this discussion before; I totally agree that the skins are not great and would love it if AMD made a full quarter panel, BUT I have the original quarter on the drivers side and a repop skin on the passenger side (albeit with the original scoop and marker light area welded in) and I defy you to tell the difference........but I paid ALOT of money in additional metal and bodywork to make that happen.
I looked for several years for an NOS passenger quarter to no avail....
Again; I'm not saying the skins are good, only that a skilled metal and body man can do a good job with one if he is given enough time to do so. My bodyman was obsessive enough that he wanted the light reflections in the paint to look the same from side to side and panel to panel....
Then again, I remember seeing an old timer european metal fabricator MAKE a quarter for a '56 Thunderbird from a flat sheet!
Dave
I thought the point of this post was to garner enough interest
or at least get a good guage for the amount interest that exists out there,
to hopefully try and prod AMD to produce 70
Coronet OEM Style quarter panels.
Not to rave about how nice a skin can be made to look!
or how nice it happens to look on your car.
I'm sure with enough time and money,
and yes a very skilled metal man,
you can get these to look as good as you want to pay for...
But let' face it If skins were so good,
then why did AMD, Goodmark and the other place (that did the charger quarter panels)
ante up and create factory style quarter panels for every other car except ours?
Why?,,, because skins SU&&!
The point is,
Why should the average guy pay 40-100 hours (or more) on labor to get a
skin shaped, sculpted, hammered, dollied, shrunk,
bondo'd,
sanded and formed to look like a factory one
When he could weld on a OEM style quarter in 16 hours?
(Thats the book time on the 70 Coronet crash sheets to do a complete R&R of a factory Quarter Panel)
Granted,
if you have the money to pay someone to do this,
God bless you!
If the skin looks gorgeous when its done...
God bless you a hundred times!
If your 70 Coronet project car just happens
to be one of the 1% of the remaining cars on
the face of the earth that just happens to have an excellent rear clip on it to start with...
God bless you a thousand times!
(go buy a lotto ticket while your at it cuz your a lucky man!)
For the rest of us...
Who don't have this kind of coin,
this kind of car
or access to gods gift to metal men...
Join us in prodding AMD to build us one!
All AMD needs to hear is 1 or 2 of us rave about
a skin and we will have ZERO chance of getting OEM Style quarters made.
(Perhaps Zero is really all the chance we have anyway,,regardless)...
Alright, I'll be quiet and I do hope AMD makes the quarters for everyone else's sake. My ONLY point in responding was you implied that a car with a skin couldn't look good; which is incorrect.........although it cost me way too much money to make that skin look good and a decent quarter would have been money well spent indeed.
If you don't tell me my car is inferior because it has a skin, I won't respond again on these "please make us a quarter panel" threads again, deal?
Dave
Posted By: OLD318
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/09/10 12:32 AM
Gee Dave, your right! I'm sorry!
I need to quit firing off at the mouth and
be more politically correct and sensitive to all of our skinned Coronets out there..
hmmm...How about this...
"With a few notable exceptions...
(the most notable being in Kelowna, BC Canada!)
70 Coronets with quarter skins look like SH**!"
Shucks...
You know what I'm tryin to say...
the words are just not comin...
TGIF!!!!
Posted By: chargervert
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/09/10 06:50 AM
70 Coronets are a love/hate car,I love tham,but I wouldn't buy one right now,because of the lack of sheetmetal for them. I looked at one a few months ago,that was advertised on Craigslist,it was a b5 blue Superbee matching numbers car,with white vynal top and C stripes. The guy wanted $2200.00 for the car. The ad said needs interior,but when I looked at the car I found out why it needed interior,it was burned out of the car. Some kids torched the car,outside the shop he had it parked at. It needed all the normal rust repair,they usually need,plus the fire damage repaired. AMD makes the roof skin the car needed,but without rear quarterpanels being reproduced,I couldn't take on a project like that. The tops of the rear quarterpanels were all heat warped,and rusted,so the skins wouldn't work on that car. It wolud have been a cool car done. I won't buy one until I know the sheetmetal is available. I had the chance to buy a very rusty 70 Coronet R/T. The seller had a right side NOS rear quarterpanel,that he was selling with the car. I wish I would have grabbed that car now,I would have been able to offer AMD a rear quarterpanel to template from. If one of you guys have a panel for AMD to template it from,give AMD a call,this would really increase the Chances of AMD making the panel.
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/09/10 05:21 PM
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Gee Dave, your right! I'm sorry!
I need to quit firing off at the mouth and
be more politically correct and sensitive to all of our skinned Coronets out there..
hmmm...How about this...
"With a few notable exceptions...
(the most notable being in Kelowna, BC Canada!)
70 Coronets with quarter skins look like SH**!"
Shucks...
You know what I'm to say...
the words are just not comin...
TGIF!!!!
It's all good my friend, all good!
Dave
Posted By: OLD318
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/13/10 05:14 PM
Alright so let's see.. how many guys have answered this post...
1) DEMON
2) ChargerVert
3) 70CoronetR/T
4) OLD318
5) DPelletier
6) BIRDS&BEES
7) QUICKSILVER
8) 70Runner
9) HemiDave
This isnt exactly what I was hoping for...
Could another 100 or so please chime in
Posted By: Jamey
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/13/10 05:36 PM
Guys you never know what can happen. I was checking AMDs site the other day, and they are looking to make quarters for 67-69 barracudas,66-67 belvederes,gtx,satellites, and 63-65 dodge and plymouth b-bodies. I never would have thought they would do the 66-67 bodies, but apparently enough people ask for them. Granted it covers two years, which helps. They did make the 70 road runner quarters which is only one year. I guess what I am saying is keep hounding them and see what happens. I personally would love to see them make them. I might want a 70 super bee one day. Jamey
Posted By: demon
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/13/10 10:40 PM
Considering that the 70 Coronet 1/4s are 90 percent the same as the 68-69 Coronet panels,it should be a simple panel to tool for since they already make the 68-69 panels.
Really the only differences are the side scoop and the rear flange for the extension and side marker opening. I am no expert in the tool making/stamping industry but one would think that with modern CNC systems etc that a large portion of the R&D would already be in place for the 70 panels.They use the same wheel houses,trunk extensions and match to the same doors, window openings, deck panels etc. Even the laser cutting would be 90 percent the same or more as the 68-69 panels they already make. In fact a 70 Plymouth 1/4 is more different than a 68-69 Plymouth 1/4.
Come on AMD we need these panels. Please!!!!!
Posted By: SixPackRT
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/13/10 11:01 PM
The lines in a 68-69 coronet 1/4 are a lot more defined than on a 70 coronet. They would be required to make completely new tooling for 70 coronets. Its not like changing the marker light locations on a 68-69.
But they are needed!
Scott
Posted By: demon
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/13/10 11:13 PM
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The lines in a 68-69 coronet 1/4 are a lot more defined than on a 70 coronet. They would be required to make completely new tooling for 70 coronets. Its not like changing the marker light locations on a 68-69.
But they are needed!
Scott
I have an original paint 68 and an original paint 70. I have the cars side by side and they have the same sharpness and profiles. AMD tells me they have customers buying the 69 panels and modifying them for 1970 cars. That may work but is is less than ideal. I have measured 68 and 70 panels for comparison and the 70 is actually a bit shorter at the rear only because of the extension difference.
Posted By: Jamey
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/13/10 11:59 PM
I just noticed that there are almost 600 views to this thread. I wonder how many of those people would buy or need the panels?
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/14/10 12:10 AM
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I just noticed that there are almost 600 views to this thread. I wonder how many of those people would buy or need the panels?
I don't need one anymore, but just to help (and to keep my buddy Old318 happy! 
) I will order one anyway if they decide to make-'em
Dave
Posted By: OLD318
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/14/10 12:14 AM
You can use the 69 (or 68) panel for patches
I mean unless you talking splicing it on....
i.e around the quarter scoop by the door and the rear tail panel/ marker light.... That's the long hard way...
Your better off patching the rust areas...
Usually the lower quarter is gone both from the end of the rocker panel back to the wheelhouse as well as the back of the wheel house to the trunk.
In addition, the rear windshield corner is almost always toast, especially on vinyl top cars. Some non vinyl top cars seem to have rear w/s corner intact if not rusted slightly...meaning if you ar e looking for donor piece seek out non-vinyl top cars...
So if you have a 70 coronet with these issues on the quarter panel, your not alone... But all you can do is cut up the 69 piece and splice.
Granted a few years ago you did not have this option, you did have the lower patch panels, but the deal breaker was the rear windshield corner.
Now with the patches you "can" do it... you do have legitimate patch panels. But understand..
By the time you put on those 3 patches on you will have spent more time than if you replaced the whole panel... and you had to purchase a whole panel to do this as well...
If your going to patch, the only thing I can say is...you better be really good with your butt-weld splices... otherwise you'll end up with a mess especially on the rear w/s corner...
It can be done... but you could save yourself the torture and just replace it...
IF AMD WOULD ONLY MAKE IT!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Paul
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/14/10 05:20 PM
Put me down for a pair
I have a decent set of cut off quarters for my 70. They're from out west but not perfect, and would require quite a few hours of metal finishing and minor rust repair.
Disregarding what I already have into them, figuring time and materials, I think I would be much further ahead if I could just hang brand new quarters. If AMD made them available I would definately buy a pair, along with a pair of trunk extensions, and a pair of outer wheelhouses. But I won't despair if they never come to market because I have a backup.
Posted By: fratzog
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 01/28/10 01:06 AM
I, too, am in need of a set or two!! I perfer the AMD quality over the replacement skins!
Posted By: The70RTChallenge
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/06/10 01:39 PM
Gotta get this post going again!!!!! I will need a set for the car i'll be getting. It can only help our "great mopar economy"...I'd buy a set in a heartbeat, so throw me on that list!
Posted By: chargervert
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/06/10 07:07 PM
Step up boy's and make the calls! I can't give you any better advise!
Posted By: Paul
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/10/10 02:46 PM
Quote:
Step up boy's and make the calls! I can't give you any better advise!
I reached out to AMD last week about 70 Coronet quarters. See their reply below. If everyone on this board started bombarding them with phone call and emails, maybe their current position could be swayed.
Quote:
Paul,
We don't have any plans for the 70 Coronet quarters.
These could be a future project, but nothing in development at this time.
Thanks for your interest!
Alan
Auto Metal Direct
866-591-8309
Posted By: PAINT IT BLACK
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/10/10 03:23 PM
Lucky me, a previous owner replaced my quarters with donors from a clean car! Just wanted to rub it in fellas!
Posted By: Paul
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/10/10 03:39 PM
Quote:
Lucky me, a previous owner replaced my quarters with donors from a clean car! Just wanted to rub it in fellas!
I have a decent used set too, but brand new parts are so much easier to work with. I figure the time saved would cover the cost of buying new.
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/10/10 06:44 PM
Quote:
Lucky me, a previous owner replaced my quarters with donors from a clean car! Just wanted to rub it in fellas!
Dave
Posted By: PAINT IT BLACK
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/11/10 03:19 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Lucky me, a previous owner replaced my quarters with donors from a clean car! Just wanted to rub it in fellas!
Dave
Did a great job too, done at the spot welds, looks factory! Na na na na na naaaa! 
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/11/10 06:29 PM
Quote:
Lucky me, a previous owner replaced my quarters with donors from a clean car! Just wanted to rub it in fellas!
That's the way I'm going to go for my WM21V0A
Posted By: HemiDave
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/11/10 08:27 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Lucky me, a previous owner replaced my quarters with donors from a clean car! Just wanted to rub it in fellas!
That's the way I'm going to go for my WM21V0A
....punks......
Send an email to AMD anyway!!
Dave
Posted By: 70NetRT
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/12/10 04:37 AM
I would get a couple of sets. I used the Cross Canada (Sherman's) 1/4 panels on my ragtop. Wish I could have found a decent donor instead.
Posted By: 70NetRT
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/12/10 04:46 AM
This is the donor set that ended up on the "Cars in Barns" Hemi car currently being restored.
Posted By: Moparranch70
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/03/10 05:08 PM
I need quarter for my Coronet R/T as well. Would buy a set for my 70 bee as well. I posted it for sale because I can't find sheetmetal or a clean donor 2 door. Help us out fellas.
Posted By: DAYCLONA
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/03/10 05:27 PM
I need quarter for my Coronet R/T as well. Would buy a set for my 70 bee as well. I posted it for sale because I can't find sheetmetal or a clean donor 2 door. Help us out fellas.
Either your not looking hard enough, or you don't like the prices that rust free used cut-offs or NOS command? 
Posted By: OLD318
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/03/10 08:02 PM
Quote:
Either your not looking hard enough, or you don't like the prices that rust free used cut-offs or NOS command?
Show me where a "rust free" cutoff is.
And please don't post any 1-5 year old junk
yard pictures, they are long gone...
Better still show me an NOS Driver side quarter panel for sale? anywhere?
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/03/10 09:41 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Either your not looking hard enough, or you don't like the prices that rust free used cut-offs or NOS command?
Show me where a "rust free" cutoff is.
And please don't post any 1-5 year old junk
yard pictures, they are long gone...
Better still show me an NOS Driver side quarter panel for sale? anywhere?
I saw an NOS quarter at Carlisle 2 years ago
I know where a low mileage, running and driving 100% California rust free 70 Coronet 440 is for $7000, includes an R/T hood too.
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/03/10 10:21 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Either your not looking hard enough, or you don't like the prices that rust free used cut-offs or NOS command?
Show me where a "rust free" cutoff is.
And please don't post any 1-5 year old junk
yard pictures, they are long gone...
Better still show me an NOS Driver side quarter panel for sale? anywhere?
I looked for two years before giving up.
Dave
Posted By: flypaper
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/03/10 10:30 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Either your not looking hard enough, or you don't like the prices that rust free used cut-offs or NOS command?
Show me where a "rust free" cutoff is.
And please don't post any 1-5 year old junk
yard pictures, they are long gone...
Better still show me an NOS Driver side quarter panel for sale? anywhere?
I saw an NOS quarter at Carlisle 2 years ago
it was back again this year for sale,drivers side
i didn't catch the price..
i also saw a nice cutoff for sale there this year.
Posted By: Nino
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/03/10 10:38 PM
Add my vote to the list!
Posted By: FY1TA
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/04/10 03:23 AM
Quote:
Quote:
Either your not looking hard enough, or you don't like the prices that rust free used cut-offs or NOS command?
Show me where a "rust free" cutoff is.
And please don't post any 1-5 year old junk
yard pictures, they are long gone...
Better still show me an NOS Driver side quarter panel for sale? anywhere?
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Posted By: FY1TA
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/04/10 03:24 AM
Posted By: FY1TA
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/04/10 03:42 AM
Posted By: FY1TA
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/04/10 03:43 AM
Posted By: HPMike
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/04/10 02:20 PM
Quote:
I would be nice to have one to work on that didn't need quarters, hmmm??...
MB
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 08/04/10 03:24 PM
Quote:
Quote:
I would be nice to have one to work on that didn't need quarters, hmmm??...
MB
I bought a XS29J8 body once and was unloading it off the trailer by myself. Coming off the trailer it made a hard left into the drivers quarter of my WM21V0A
Posted By: fratzog
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/08/14 01:27 AM
I'm bringing this old post around again. It's been since 2010. Does anybody know if AMD has had a change of heart with this?
Posted By: elitecustombody
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/08/14 04:51 AM
Quote:
I'm bringing this old post around again. It's been since 2010. Does anybody know if AMD has had a change of heart with this?
Not according to the website
Posted By: demon
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/08/14 09:59 PM
So let's start calling AMD guys!
My 70 Bee has been sitting and waiting for AMD to make 1/4's.
Think of all the trunkfloors, floors, door skins etc they would sell as well when guys order up new 1/4's for their 70 Coronets.
So many cars are sitting because the owners are reluctant to buy anything for them when the most needed part is not available. And I mean THE most needed part.
Come on AMD! 70 Coronets owners are begging you to make these panels.
Posted By: gtsuperbee
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/08/14 10:26 PM
I would absolutely buy at least a passenger side one for a customer's R/T
Posted By: efisixpack
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/10/14 12:08 AM
I have an opportunity to possibly get a v-code 4-sp black on black '70 bee and the only reason I'm iffy about it is because of the lack of quarters.
Posted By: Q5_Ed
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/10/14 02:07 AM
Not knowing the price, never seen one in that combo, worth the wait/search for quarters?
Posted By: elitecustombody
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/13/14 05:23 PM
Quote:
So let's start calling AMD guys!
My 70 Bee has been sitting and waiting for AMD to make 1/4's.
Think of all the trunkfloors, floors, door skins etc they would sell as well when guys order up new 1/4's for their 70 Coronets.
So many cars are sitting because the owners are reluctant to buy anything for them when the most needed part is not available. And I mean THE most needed part.
Come on AMD! 70 Coronets owners are begging you to make these panels.
Talked with AMD about these. They don't see how they will be able to recoup the cost of tooling. They need to sell at least 500 pairs to make it worth the investment.
Posted By: 70VcodeCoronetRT
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/13/14 11:08 PM
I would buy a pair. Not sure if I'm going to need them yet. But if they made them I'm in.
Posted By: OLD318
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/17/14 09:00 PM
Stefan,
Thanks for inquiring about this to AMD...
500 pairs?
Just to recover tooling costs?
Wow! On their website the 68-69 Coronet quarter panels sells for $600.
Given their size I think that's very reasonable...
I'd pay that for a 70 in a hearbeat!
So let's call it $1200 for a pair...
1200 x 500 = $600K.. it's that much to tool these?
Man! maybe this is just me but...it seems like
the 70 is roughly 80% covered by the 68-69?
The differences are the reverse C Stamping near the door,
and the marker light. The biggest difference is where it meets
the tailpanel....
Do they have to completely re-invent the tooling
from scratch to do this? OUCH!!!!
Are they expecting to sell 500 pairs of the 70 roadrunner quarter panels?
Posted By: DAYCLONA
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/17/14 09:32 PM
Quote:
Stefan,
Thanks for inquiring about this to AMD...
500 pairs?
So let's call it $1200 for a pair...
1200 x 500 = $600K.. it's that much to tool these?
The dies required alone will be in the $300K+ range to produce a left/right full set of qtrs, the material costs for the skins will be in the $75K range for a minimum run of 500 sets, not to mention the possible retooling costs to correct issues at the line, tooling proofs, etc, etc, that eats up capital fast, then theirs E coat costs, labour, shipping charges to/from the factory, packaging, taxes, tariffs, etc, inventory taxes, and all the assorted costs from building costs, operation costs, Insurance costs, etc, etc, etc, etc, the lists of costs most forget that it takes to just stay in business, nevermind expanding your product offerings/inventory, plus product demand and how long the estimated investment return will be, are deciding factors, plus a host of other factors that can vary from day to day operations, market shares/values, banking conditions, right down to personal decisions by the Chief in charge...
Posted By: elitecustombody
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/18/14 12:29 AM
IIRC ,Alan said they would have to dump $500k to get these quarters going.
Posted By: OLD318
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/18/14 03:22 AM
500K!
Obviously, I'm no tooling/Die/sheet metal expert...
But it just doesn't seem right!
80% of the panel is already built and tooled
Change the double C impression next to the door
to a single reverse C and you're identical all the way back to
the marker light! That's about the last foot/ 18 inches
of the panel!
Change the marker light and then the tail panel area
to scuplt to the 70 Quarter extension and rear bumper
and your're done!
Again not an expert by any means...
But why do they have to completely pay to
reinvent the 80% that already exists?
The 68-69 uses the same wheel well, trunk extensions and
rear windshield cowl... They all use the same door!
Heck even the same vinyl top moulding on the sail panel
and the same Wheel lip moulding fits... (Same rear wheelhouse) etc.
I just don't get it!
They spent all that money on the 68/69 and NONE of it is
useable on the 70?
Nothing transfers cost wise?
Can my luck be any worse!
Posted By: SixPackRT
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/18/14 08:28 AM
Quote:
500K!
Obviously, I'm no tooling/Die/sheet metal expert...
But it just doesn't seem right!
80% of the panel is already built and tooled
Change the double C impression next to the door
to a single reverse C and you're identical all the way back to
the marker light! That's about the last foot/ 18 inches
of the panel!
Change the marker light and then the tail panel area
to scuplt to the 70 Quarter extension and rear bumper
and your're done!
Again not an expert by any means...
But why do they have to completely pay to
reinvent the 80% that already exists?
The 68-69 uses the same wheel well, trunk extensions and
rear windshield cowl... They all use the same door!
Heck even the same vinyl top moulding on the sail panel
and the same Wheel lip moulding fits... (Same rear wheelhouse) etc.
I just don't get it!
They spent all that money on the 68/69 and NONE of it is
useable on the 70?
Nothing transfers cost wise?
Can my luck be any worse!
I think 68/69 quarter panels are much more different than just the single body line as opposed to the 2 stamped body line. I think the 68/69 quarters have much more profound body lines all the way around in comparison to a 70. But even with that all being said, the slightest changes require a whole new set of dies to be produced. Its pretty much like starting from scratch. I know that's not good news, but unfortunately its the reality of production.
70 Roadrunner's/GTX's are far more popular than 70 Coronets. Again that's also a reality that is probably a determining factor in making the 70 Plymouth quarter. I really don't see these happening with this economy and with the cost vs return AMD would have to endure.
Scott
Posted By: 70440+6bbl
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/19/14 05:50 AM
Quote:
Quote:
500K!
Obviously, I'm no tooling/Die/sheet metal expert...
But it just doesn't seem right!
80% of the panel is already built and tooled
Change the double C impression next to the door
to a single reverse C and you're identical all the way back to
the marker light! That's about the last foot/ 18 inches
of the panel!
Change the marker light and then the tail panel area
to scuplt to the 70 Quarter extension and rear bumper
and your're done!
Again not an expert by any means...
But why do they have to completely pay to
reinvent the 80% that already exists?
The 68-69 uses the same wheel well, trunk extensions and
rear windshield cowl... They all use the same door!
Heck even the same vinyl top moulding on the sail panel
and the same Wheel lip moulding fits... (Same rear wheelhouse) etc.
I just don't get it!
They spent all that money on the 68/69 and NONE of it is
useable on the 70?
Nothing transfers cost wise?
Can my luck be any worse!
I think 68/69 quarter panels are much more different than just the single body line as opposed to the 2 stamped body line. I think the 68/69 quarters have much more profound body lines all the way around in comparison to a 70. But even with that all being said, the slightest changes require a whole new set of dies to be produced. Its pretty much like starting from scratch. I know that's not good news, but unfortunately its the reality of production.
70 Roadrunner's/GTX's are far more popular than 70 Coronets. Again that's also a reality that is probably a determining factor in making the 70 Plymouth quarter. I really don't see these happening with this economy and with the cost vs return AMD would have to endure.
Scott
I have a '70 Bee that will need lower patches and have a NOS '69 Coronet qtr panel and the lines/sharpness appear identical. I may cut off the panel, whatever bits I need for my Bee in the future!
Posted By: elitecustombody
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 02/19/14 07:18 AM
Quote:
500K!
Obviously, I'm no tooling/Die/sheet metal expert...
But it just doesn't seem right!
80% of the panel is already built and tooled
Change the double C impression next to the door
to a single reverse C and you're identical all the way back to
the marker light! That's about the last foot/ 18 inches
of the panel!
Change the marker light and then the tail panel area
to scuplt to the 70 Quarter extension and rear bumper
and your're done!
Again not an expert by any means...
But why do they have to completely pay to
reinvent the 80% that already exists?
The 68-69 uses the same wheel well, trunk extensions and
rear windshield cowl... They all use the same door!
Heck even the same vinyl top moulding on the sail panel
and the same Wheel lip moulding fits... (Same rear wheelhouse) etc.
I just don't get it!
They spent all that money on the 68/69 and NONE of it is
useable on the 70?
Nothing transfers cost wise?
Can my luck be any worse!
Easy! Don't shoot the messenger! Here is AMD contact info. Call, fax, write :
Auto Metal Direct
940 Sherwin Parkway, Ste 180
Buford, GA 30518
Toll-Free: (866) 591-8309
Local: (770) 967-0909
Fax: (770) 692-6360
Or send them email :http://www.autometaldirect.com/contact_us.php
Posted By: demon
Re: 70 Coronet full 1/4 panels ! - 09/27/19 03:20 AM
500K!
Obviously, I'm no tooling/Die/sheet metal expert...
But it just doesn't seem right!
80% of the panel is already built and tooled
Change the double C impression next to the door
to a single reverse C and you're identical all the way back to
the marker light! That's about the last foot/ 18 inches
of the panel!
Change the marker light and then the tail panel area
to scuplt to the 70 Quarter extension and rear bumper
and your're done!
Again not an expert by any means...
But why do they have to completely pay to
reinvent the 80% that already exists?
The 68-69 uses the same wheel well, trunk extensions and
rear windshield cowl... They all use the same door!
Heck even the same vinyl top moulding on the sail panel
and the same Wheel lip moulding fits... (Same rear wheelhouse) etc.
I just don't get it!
They spent all that money on the 68/69 and NONE of it is
useable on the 70?
Nothing transfers cost wise?
Can my luck be any worse!
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Easy! Don't shoot the messenger! Here is AMD contact info. Call, fax, write :
Auto Metal Direct
940 Sherwin Parkway, Ste 180
Buford, GA 30518
Toll-Free: (866) 591-8309
Local: (770) 967-0909
Fax: (770) 692-6360
Or send them email :http://www.autometaldirect.com/contact_us.php
well, we still have no 70 Coronet quarter panels. I think its time to contact AMD again, and show them that we want these panels!
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