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1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear?

Posted By: Cab_Burge

1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/21/22 06:31 PM

I'm getting ready to order new seat belts for my 1969 GTS and I don't have or remember if the back seat had two or three seat belts stock originally, which is it confused help
Thanks in advance up bow
Posted By: Matt M

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/21/22 11:01 PM

3
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 03:02 AM

Thanks up
Posted By: njmopar

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 11:28 AM

Hardtop 3
Convertible 2 smile
Posted By: burdar

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 02:53 PM

My 68 convertible has 3. Did that change in 69?
Posted By: njmopar

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 03:42 PM

My 68 only has 2 and the seat cover pattern is aligned to 2. With the convertible side panels, 3 would be pretty tight fit.
Posted By: burdar

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 05:01 PM

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Here it is. Longer bolts and spacers in the center for the double belts. PG Classics reproduction belts also come with three for the rear. shruggy
Posted By: topside

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 05:52 PM

Probably related to a Govt regulation that may have changed.
The law was a seat belt for every position, but it could be at some point convertible rear seat occupancy was changed.
That would save Chrysler a few bucks per convertible, and Chrysler was all about saving $$$.
Typically new safety regs in that era were effective Jan 1st, so that can muddy what years got that stuff included as standard.
Posted By: njmopar

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 06:50 PM

Well you learn something every day. This is from a 1968 sales brochure. Could only find Canada at the moment.
Looks like 2 lap belts front and 2 rear are standard.
My hardtop is a 69, so always assumed my 68 convertible with 2 was just because of the narrower seat (buckets in front).



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Posted By: burdar

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 07:53 PM

1968 Looks like center lap belt was optional.
https://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1968/68_Dart0018.jpg

1969 Not as clear cut as the 68 book. Looks like 3 for the rear but what do the C13 and C14 mean?
https://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Dart0021.jpg
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by burdar
1968 Looks like center lap belt was optional.
https://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1968/68_Dart0018.jpg

1969 Not as clear cut as the 68 book. Looks like 3 for the rear but what do the C13 and C14 mean?
https://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Dart0021.jpg


C14 is rear seat shoulder belts. Very rare option. They are mounted to the package tray area.

C13 is front seat shoulder belts on a Convertible. Even more rare option. Not sure how they mount, maybe between upper and lower rear seat cushions?? There is a Pilot 67 Hemi Satellite Convertible with that option. Super LONG belts.
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 10:23 PM

Rear shoulder belts on a 68 Charger

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31155.0.html



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Posted By: njmopar

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 10:25 PM

Sorry to hijack the original question. But I did learn something from it.

My 2 rear belts on my 68 convertible were found under the seat and wrapped in plastic, pretty much preserved perfectly. Wish the fronts were remotely as good.


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Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/22/22 10:29 PM

More pics of a 69 Charger showing the attachment bracket that's added under the package tray for rear shoulder belts.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,75298.50.html
Posted By: burdar

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/23/22 12:51 PM

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My 2 rear belts on my 68 convertible were found under the seat and wrapped in plastic, pretty much preserved perfectly. Wish the fronts were remotely as good.


That's awesome!

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C13 is front seat shoulder belts on a Convertible. Even more rare option. Not sure how they mount, maybe between upper and lower rear seat cushions?? There is a Pilot 67 Hemi Satellite Convertible with that option. Super LONG belts.


Thanks! That's what I thought it meant but shoulder straps on a convertible threw me. Never heard of that before. Newer cars have the seat belts mounted to the seats...not the body. It would be interesting to see how they mount on a Dart/Barracuda.
Posted By: rarefish

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/25/22 03:10 PM

Here is a few pictures of the rear seat belts from my 69 GTS.

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Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/25/22 05:35 PM

Thanks to al of you up bow
It seems that you could order three in the rear and it looks like two was the standard, shruggy Maybe it varied on what part of the year it was and which factory assemble the cars confused
I have another question about the stock door panels, were the GT and GTS door panels the same?
If not do any of you know who sells the replacement GTS door panels help
Someone had switched my cars stock panels to a set of 1967 GT black panels and removed the GTS interior emblems, why I do not know shruggy
My car was originally F7 green exterior and interior, it is now Hemi orange with white Legendary GTS seat covers.
if it doesn't sell soon, I may start restoring it back to stock paint and interior, if I can find the proper door luck: help:: work:
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/26/22 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Thanks to al of you up bow
It seems that you could order three in the rear and it looks like two was the standard, shruggy Maybe it varied on what part of the year it was and which factory assemble the cars confused
I have another question about the stock door panels, were the GT and GTS door panels the same?
If not do any of you know who sells the replacement GTS door panels help
Someone had switched my cars stock panels to a set of 1967 GT black panels and removed the GTS interior emblems, why I do not know shruggy
My car was originally F7 green exterior and interior, it is now Hemi orange with white Legendary GTS seat covers.
if it doesn't sell soon, I may start restoring it back to stock paint and interior, if I can find the proper door luck: help:: work:


1969 GT and GTS door panels are same

1968 GT and GTS door panels are same BUT the chrome inserts above the arm rest are scripted GT or GTS accordingly . But have same basic outside dimensions.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/26/22 05:35 AM

Thanks for the help, I found some new repop GT door panels but no listing for the GTS panels shruggy
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 06/27/22 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Thanks to al of you up bow
It seems that you could order three in the rear and it looks like two was the standard, shruggy Maybe it varied on what part of the year it was and which factory assemble the cars confused
I have another question about the stock door panels, were the GT and GTS door panels the same?
If not do any of you know who sells the replacement GTS door panels help
Someone had switched my cars stock panels to a set of 1967 GT black panels and removed the GTS interior emblems, why I do not know shruggy
My car was originally F7 green exterior and interior, it is now Hemi orange with white Legendary GTS seat covers.
if it doesn't sell soon, I may start restoring it back to stock paint and interior, if I can find the proper door luck: help:: work:


F7 was not available in 1969, may be F5 or F8, picture of fender tag? GTS and GT door panels are the same for 1969, the GT SPORT emblems were on the metal upper door frame and are now being reproduced for $295/pair.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: 1969 Dart GTS seat belts, how many in the rear? - 07/05/22 05:35 AM

Your correct, it is F8, not F7: blush:
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