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Chassis numbers

Posted By: cudaman1969

Chassis numbers - 01/30/21 06:17 AM

On a 66 car do the body numbers tell when the car was built?
111902165 body and shipping order number
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 02:08 AM

Anybody??
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 02:23 AM

DELETED -doesn’t apply to 62-66
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 02:44 AM

111902165

this example
1119 = Friday 11/19/1965 Scheduled Production Date blush

1 = Lynch Rd. assembly plant
119 = Wednesday 1/19/66 Scheduled Production Date
&
02165 = Shipping Order #
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by 6bblgt
111902165

this example
1119 = Friday 11/19/1965 Scheduled Production Date
&
02165 = Shipping Order #


Is that for 1965 Mopars? Or certain range of years?

My 1968 Body stamping SO number is not that long. Mine in B8B085218
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 03:24 AM

Thanks no fender tag it was stolen, delivery date was 1/25/66
So with that and what I’ve been told, one of the earliest 66 Hemi cars built
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Thanks no fender tag it was stolen, delivery date was 1/25/66
So with that and what I’ve been told, one of the earliest Hemi cars built


How do you know the delivery date? Is that when the dealer got it or when customer bought it?

Wouldn’t there be Hemi cars built in August and September and the beginning of the model year?
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by autoxcuda
Originally Posted by 6bblgt
111902165

this example:
1 = Lynch Rd. assembly plant
119 = Wednesday 1/19/66 Scheduled Production Date
&
02165 = Shipping Order #


Is that for 1965 Mopars? Or certain range of years?

My 1968 Body stamping SO number is not that long. Mine in B8B085218


it's that way for ~'62-'66, then they added the year & plant for '67, then eliminated the SPD and added a body code for '68 & went to the last 8-digits of the VIN for '69

so your B8B085216:
B = Barracuda
8 = 1968
B = Hamtramck, MI assembly plant
085216 = Shipping Order #
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 03:45 AM

cudaman1969 do you have a copy of the IBM card? is it a St. Louis assembled Plymouth?

the first 1966 HEMI cars were built around Thanksgiving 1965 (11/25/65)
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by 6bblgt
Originally Posted by autoxcuda
Originally Posted by 6bblgt
111902165

this example
1119 = Friday 11/19/1965 Scheduled Production Date
&
02165 = Shipping Order #


Is that for 1965 Mopars? Or certain range of years?

My 1968 Body stamping SO number is not that long. Mine in B8B085218


it's that way for ~'62-'66, then they added the year & plant for '67, then eliminated the SPD and added a body code for '68 & went to the last 8-digits of the VIN for '69

so your B8B085216:
B = Barracuda
8 = 1968
B = Hamtramck, MI assembly plant
085216 = Shipping Order #


Thank for that info.

...the fender tags seem to get weirder as the Mopars get older.
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 06:19 AM

Yes I have the IBM card, got that from the historical place, it had the delivery date, dealer. Lynch road plant, expedited, tinted glass, polished paint(silver) engine trans and no other options
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by autoxcuda
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Thanks no fender tag it was stolen, delivery date was 1/25/66
So with that and what I’ve been told, one of the earliest Hemi cars built


How do you know the delivery date? Is that when the dealer got it or when customer bought it?

Wouldn’t there be Hemi cars built in August and September and the beginning of the model year?

The guy I talked to at length (4 hours on the phone) worked at the St Louis plant then, he said the Hemi cars were not built till Nov.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 07:10 AM

the IBM "build record" has the "scheduled date" & the "shipped date" from the factory (delivery date usually refers to customer delivery)

do you have the full decode from Chrysler? can you share the IBM image, here or via email? dhead68@hotmail.com
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 03:51 PM

I have decoded the card (Chrysler will not do it anymore) but it’s not like a ‘build’ sheet. Just didn’t dawn on me that that first series of punch’s were the build date witch matches the chassis numbers. I can send you a copy of the card.
Just noticed the card only shows two ones then the nine but the body shows three ones. The card only has one box for the month built I guess Nov Dec would be hard to show.
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by cudaman1969
I have decoded the card (Chrysler will not do it anymore) but it’s not like a ‘build’ sheet. Just didn’t dawn on me that that first series of punch’s were the build date witch matches the chassis numbers. I can send you a copy of the card.
Just noticed the card only shows two ones then the nine but the body shows three ones. The card only has one box for the month built I guess Nov Dec would be hard to show.



Would be interesting to see when the difference in when they Scheduled to build it versus when it was actually Shipped.

With the delayed Hemi production start, I’d imagine this difference might not be typical. ???
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 07:30 PM

I’m under the impression this car was just put out there early in a ‘sales bank’, a stripped version till someone ordered one with that combo. IMO Radio and tinted glass was added then sent out . Long short story, radio was NOT installed on the assembly line but like I said, added later. Fender hole was a hack job in the wrong spot and ant. cable ran thru a hole that was made with a long 5/8 punch right next to top hinge, no rubber grommet or dum dum to close the hole around it or in the correct spot down in the kick panel. Windshield and back glass was black glued in, had to cut the gasket in multiple pieces to get them out intact. Never in all my years seen that in such a low mile car. Another thing about the radio, the chrome strip along the bottom of the dash is sized for the delete plate, if a radio is there the chrome has a smaller opening. I have both types and it is the bigger one on the original dash. It’s going back with no radio but I’ll keep the glass.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 07:44 PM

he's already stated that it was Scheduled 1/19/66 & Shipped 1/25/66 - a total span of 6 days

the month column on the IBM card used the 1-9 (January-September) and A-C (October-December) same as later fender tags

email the IBM image my way & I'll compare it to others I have copies of - but the earliest I have info on from Lynch Rd. are around 61177xxx, but they are not Scheduled until December (one HEMI IBM I have a copy of SPD C10 12/10/65 & Shipped 12/21/65 * 11 days)
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 07:47 PM

lots can happen to a car between a dealer making the sale & the 55 years since it was built - how long have you had it?

I remember a prior thread where you mentioned the added radio & tinted glass
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 10:18 PM

20,000 some odd miles sat in barn and a shed since the 70s, just speculating on things and getting as much info as I can with no paperwork. I’ll send the card.

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Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Chassis numbers - 01/31/21 11:01 PM

I'll have to check other 1966 Lynch Rd. body stampings, but

SPD = 1/19/66
Shipped Date = 1/25/66

I went back & fixed some of the prior posts with incorrect info blush
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 02/01/21 12:20 AM

Well that’s better, I can purchase the matching set of A6 carbs now.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Chassis numbers - 02/01/21 12:40 AM

the Belvedere II 2-door hardtop was an ordered "SOLD" car and had the following OPTIONs when new with a MSRP around $3750.

HEMI - 4-speed - 3.54 DANA60 axle package - "buffed" paint - AM radio - tinted glass & padded sun visors ***** twocents a typical '66 HEMI Belvedere II

the dealership location is currently: MINI of Alexandria VA scope

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Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Chassis numbers - 02/01/21 12:46 AM

does it have HP2 or HEMI emblems?
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 02/01/21 02:56 AM

Hemi on the lower front fenders behind tire. I’m gonna print that out now. Another cool thing, on inside of trunk lid in grease pencil it says blu 775, saved that.
How does this pic get turned around?

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Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 02/01/21 03:11 AM

I figured the dealership was gone by now, about 45 miles from me. I’m thinking someone in Maryland bought it. There’s a used car sticker on the bumper from MD but out of business now. I got it from the son of the last owner (deceased) who found it in a barn in WVa, no rust other than surface.
Posted By: dragon slayer

Re: Chassis numbers - 02/01/21 02:16 PM

A6 Carbs would not be correct for that car. Carbs had to lead a build more then that. I have a set of L5. Since this is the beginning of production for street hemi and carbs, L may have been the earlies made, but I do not know for sure, there could be earlier carb dates. F8 were the dates on the very early 69 Car with AUG/Sep SPD. They were made in batches. So not like they were made every day of every month. Pretty specific manufacture dates for hemi carbs.
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 02/01/21 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by dragon slayer
A6 Carbs would not be correct for that car. Carbs had to lead a build more then that. I have a set of L5. Since this is the beginning of production for street hemi and carbs, L may have been the earlies made, but I do not know for sure, there could be earlier carb dates. F8 were the dates on the very early 69 Car with AUG/Sep SPD. They were made in batches. So not like they were made every day of every month. Pretty specific manufacture dates for hemi carbs.

Are the L5 for sale?
Posted By: dragon slayer

Re: Chassis numbers - 02/02/21 02:09 AM

No not for sale. I had everything sent out for plating, and had the bodies cleaned and treated. Have not even re-assembled them yet.
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Chassis numbers - 02/02/21 02:48 PM

Had to ask
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