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Roger Gibson's Organisol paint

Posted By: Sammy

Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/23/19 03:44 PM

Who has used it and is it ready to spray or do you need a reducer for it?
PPG Duracryl
DDL94012
Posted By: floyd

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/23/19 03:52 PM

I haven’t used it, but there’s a nice video on shooting organisol here that might be helpful:

https://www.e-bodies.org/videos/

Also, I have used some of Roger’s other paints and he was really helpful when I called for some specific guidance.
Posted By: Sammy

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/23/19 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by floyd
I haven’t used it, but there’s a nice video on shooting organisol here that might be helpful:

https://www.e-bodies.org/videos/

Also, I have used some of Roger’s other paints and he was really helpful when I called for some specific guidance.




Thanks. Just watched the video and he switched from using the DURACRYL Acrylic Lacquer to a single stage.
Very informative. Now I need to know if Roger Gibson paint that he sells is already thinned out.
Posted By: Sammy

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/23/19 06:42 PM

Just spoke to Roger Gibson and he says go with Argent Silver.
It was used mostly in 1970
Organisol black would be correct too.
But more in 1971
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/23/19 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sammy
Who has used it and is it ready to spray or do you need a reducer for it?
PPG Duracryl
DDL94012



If it's still some of his older mix, it'll be acrylic lacquer and you will need a THINNER, if he's switched it over to Acrylic Enamel like some of his other paint products, then you'll need a REDUCER, whether your using thinner or reducer be sure to use the slowest drying you can, avoid heavy coats, 3 to 4 light coats, some will suggest to spray it over a primer base, avoid that temptation as you won't like the results, I paint directly over the gloss finish after scuffing it down lightly with a RED scotchbrite pad, IMHO your better off using the Acrylic ENAMEL Organisol substitute from PPG to avoid any paint reactions (unless your vehicle is painted in acrylic laquer?) lacquers don't like being put over enamels/urethane/etc, you can do it, but sometimes there's immediate paint reactions or perhaps down the road expansion contraction of the different paint bases will cause cracks/checks/lifting... just some forethought

Mike
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/23/19 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Sammy
Just spoke to Roger Gibson and he says go with Argent Silver.
It was used mostly in 1970
Organisol black would be correct too.
But more in 1971



So we can assume this is a Shaker scoop?
Posted By: Sammy

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/23/19 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by DAYCLONA
Originally Posted by Sammy
Who has used it and is it ready to spray or do you need a reducer for it?
PPG Duracryl
DDL94012



If it's still some of his older mix, it'll be acrylic lacquer and you will need a THINNER, if he's switched it over to Acrylic Enamel like some of his other paint products, then you'll need a REDUCER, whether your using thinner or reducer be sure to use the slowest drying you can, avoid heavy coats, 3 to 4 light coats, some will suggest to spray it over a primer base, avoid that temptation as you won't like the results, I paint directly over the gloss finish after scuffing it down lightly with a RED scotchbrite pad, IMHO your better off using the Acrylic ENAMEL Organisol substitute from PPG to avoid any paint reactions (unless your vehicle is painted in acrylic laquer?) lacquers don't like being put over enamels/urethane/etc, you can do it, but sometimes there's immediate paint reactions or perhaps down the road expansion contraction of the different paint bases will cause cracks/checks/lifting... just some forethought

Mike



Thanks it's the older lacquer stuff. I went with the argent silver.
Just laid on my 4th coat.
Just one small run which I'll sand out tomorrow and reapply.
Otherwise looks great. Bullet spray pattern 3 feet away with circular spray pattern getting creases and openings 1st .
Posted By: Sammy

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/23/19 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by DAYCLONA
Originally Posted by Sammy
Just spoke to Roger Gibson and he says go with Argent Silver.
It was used mostly in 1970
Organisol black would be correct too.
But more in 1971



So we can assume this is a Shaker scoop?


Yes it's a 1970 shaker scoop.


Now if I can find some DLT 872 PPG Lacquer thinner.
I used virgin lacquer thinner.
Posted By: MOPARMIKE69

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/26/19 01:56 PM

I have a gallon of DTL 105 I use with these types of paint. It is a slow thinner and it was the last lacquer thinner my PPG supplier had or can even get anymore. When I shot my 70 Cuda grill with the paint from Badalson using todays thinner it was so fast that the paint only came out in spider webs.

On organisol I don't use the lacquer paint but I use a formula I have come up with that works really well and gives the same appearance without getting to rough. Much easier to spray.
Posted By: Sammy

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/27/19 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by MOPARMIKE69
I have a gallon of DTL 105 I use with these types of paint. It is a slow thinner and it was the last lacquer thinner my PPG supplier had or can even get anymore. When I shot my 70 Cuda grill with the paint from Badalson using todays thinner it was so fast that the paint only came out in spider webs.

On organisol I don't use the lacquer paint but I use a formula I have come up with that works really well and gives the same appearance without getting to rough. Much easier to spray.



Was the thinner tou used with Badalsons organisol VIRGIN Lacquer thinner?
I cant seem to find any PPG DTL lacquer thinner anywhere.
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/28/19 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Sammy
Originally Posted by MOPARMIKE69
I have a gallon of DTL 105 I use with these types of paint. It is a slow thinner and it was the last lacquer thinner my PPG supplier had or can even get anymore. When I shot my 70 Cuda grill with the paint from Badalson using todays thinner it was so fast that the paint only came out in spider webs.

On organisol I don't use the lacquer paint but I use a formula I have come up with that works really well and gives the same appearance without getting to rough. Much easier to spray.



Was the thinner tou used with Badalsons organisol VIRGIN Lacquer thinner?
I cant seem to find any PPG DTL lacquer thinner anywhere.


Call BAPS in Lemoyne PA - they are awesome 717-737-5511
Posted By: Sammy

Re: Roger Gibson's Organisol paint - 08/28/19 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Morty426
Originally Posted by Sammy
Originally Posted by MOPARMIKE69
I have a gallon of DTL 105 I use with these types of paint. It is a slow thinner and it was the last lacquer thinner my PPG supplier had or can even get anymore. When I shot my 70 Cuda grill with the paint from Badalson using todays thinner it was so fast that the paint only came out in spider webs.

On organisol I don't use the lacquer paint but I use a formula I have come up with that works really well and gives the same appearance without getting to rough. Much easier to spray.



Was the thinner tou used with Badalsons organisol VIRGIN Lacquer thinner?
I cant seem to find any PPG DTL lacquer thinner anywhere.


Call BAPS in Lemoyne PA - they are awesome 717-737-5511




Going to call now. Thanks
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