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'70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question

Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

'70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 03:37 AM

Can someone post a picture or something to help me out with my ignition key light on my '70 Cuda.I have the single yellow wire running down from the steering column with a female spade connector and I am not sure where it plugs into.I do have the A01 light package and correct harness on my car,but where I thought it plug into,the male spade connector is too large in diameter to plug into the female connector on the end of the light itself.And yes,I am not worth a shitz at reading a wiring diagram!Thanks for the help as always!!
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 04:08 AM

70 column shouldn't have a spade style connector, it should be a round bullet style connector with moldex body...It plugs into the add-on light harness that plugs into the the dome light circut & a 12v source....If the harness is there it will have a small time delay relay that is about 1.25 long & .75 around taped to the main harness near the steering column...

Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 05:46 AM

Harness

Attached picture 5043456-A01WiringHarness.jpg
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 06:52 AM

Randy/Snoopy-Thanks for the help.I guess I mistakenly said spade type connector,when I meant to say bullet type connector.On the end of the actually light itself it has the round/bullet type connector just like the one on the yellow wire on the bottom right in Snoopy's picture.I'm pretty sure I was trying to plug it into the wrong harness.I'll check it out on Sunday and let you know.Thanks again for the help!!
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 06:58 AM

Wiring Diagram

Attached picture 5043544-IgntionSwitchLightWiring.jpg
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 07:05 AM

Here is a picture of the harness, I'll try to get a more complete shot.

Attached picture 5043551-DelayWiring.JPG
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 06:53 PM

Could you post a close up of the correct style connector on both the end of the ignition key light wire and the connector on the harness it plugs into?Thanks again !!
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 07:17 PM

2983713 Harness - Partial

Key lamp connector is male bullet.

Attached picture 5044396-ignitionkeylampwiringharnesspart.jpg
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 07:18 PM

Steering column wiring.
Key lamp connector is female bullet.

Attached picture 5044398-ignitionkeylampwiringharnesssteering.jpg
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 07:28 PM

Here is a picture of the 2983 713 lamp harness plugged into the main dash harness.

Attached picture 5044416-2983713HarnessPluggedIntoTheMainHarness.JPG
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 09:48 PM

Thanks for the additional pictures Snoopy.Look like I have the wrong harness.The one I have in the car has 3 yellow wires coming out of it instead of the two as shown,and has a bare male bullet connector instead of the one inside of the plastic housing.Is anyone repopping the correct harness (M&H)?? Thanks
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 10:06 PM

Compare your time delay relay socket with this one. The left wire is yellow with a black tracer.
The larger yellow wire on the bottom goes to the key lamp.

Attached picture 5044832-TimeDelayPlug.jpg
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/22/09 10:43 PM

Yup,the larger yellow wire on the bottom has the male exposed bullet connector that is too larger to fit into the female bullet connector on the end of the ignition key light wire.
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/23/09 12:22 AM

Closeup of the ignition light plugs.
Harness left - Light right

Attached picture 5045133-ignitionkeylampplugs.jpg
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/23/09 12:27 AM

My key light has the correct end,but harness does not,so I assume I have the wrong harness(I think a 71-4 harness).Snoopy,can you also post a picture of where this light harness plugs into the main harness?Thanks for the help!
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/23/09 12:46 AM

Three connections to main harness:

1. Yellow with black tracer wire plugs into a single female bullet connector with two yellow with black tracer wires.

2. The pink wire plugs into one of the pink three hole bullet connectors with one pink and one gray wire.

3. The yellow wire plugs into the female bullet connector wit two yellow wires.

Circled in blue.

Attached picture 5045214-2983713HarnessPluggedIntoTheMainHarnessMarked.JPG
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/23/09 12:48 AM

Thanks again Snoopy!!
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/23/09 01:07 AM

I updated the photo and information.
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/26/09 03:44 AM

The 2983713 harness is in color.

Attached picture 5053596-2983713A01Harness1.jpg
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/26/09 05:46 PM

Snoopy-Is that 2983713 harness number,the number on the tag or the part number out of the book?Or are they the same? Is 3513427 a superseded number for the 2983713? Thanks!!
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/26/09 07:53 PM

2983713 is on the harness and is in the parts book.
3513427 is in the 70-71 & 72 parts books and is listed for a 71 & 72 E-Body.
Both are listed as - WIRING, Accessory Lamp, Map, Ignition Switch and Title Lamp.

One of the differences is the ignition lamp connector. I don't have a wiring diagram for the 71 or 72 cars, so I can't determine the other differences.
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/26/09 08:54 PM

Here is the wiring diagram for the 71 harness.

Attached picture 5055131-71ChallengerMapWiring.jpg
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/26/09 09:00 PM

It appears the only difference is the ignition light connector.

Attached picture 5055148-351342771MapLightHarness4.jpg
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 01:03 AM

Snoopy-The harness I got today has the 3513427 parts number tag still on it but has the '70 style bullet connector.Must have been a mid year change or something? Thank you for your help and diagrams!
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 02:02 AM

Just goes to show you, when it comes to Chrysler, the exception is the rule.
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 02:22 AM

You said it! I just pulled out of my car what I thought was the correct A01 harness and after some comparing,it turns out to be the style with the spade connector for the key light.I'm glad I started checking into this as I had it incorrectly installed anyway.So I am either going to install the harness I got today with the correct connector or see if I can switch over the correct connector to what was a NOS 71 harness.
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 02:27 AM

Snoopy-Forgot to ask one more question.What all plugs into the unique male/female spade connector that has the single yellow wire going into it,just off the side of the key light and the single bullet yellow w/black tracer wire? Thanks again
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 02:35 AM

Switch title lamp and the over head consolette wiring harness.

Attached picture 5056154-MapLightWiringDashTest2.jpg
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 02:58 AM

OK,that's what I thought.Just wanted to make sure.Just to check thou,the switch title light,is the light above the corner rallye dash switch panel and if I don't have an overhead console in the car,that connector stays empty correct? Thanks!
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 03:29 AM

Switch Title Lamp courtesy of BartekP

Attached picture 5056302-SwitchTitleLampLg.jpg
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 03:39 AM

OK..I got a few thing backwards.So where does the far left side single light on the rallye dash light bar plug into??
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 03:40 AM

Consolette Wiring Harness. This isn't the overhead harness.

Attached picture 5056333-70E-BodyConsoletteWiringHarness.jpg
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 03:40 AM

Consolette Wiring Harness Plugs

Attached picture 5056338-70E-BodyConsoletteWiringHarnessPlugs.jpg
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 03:42 AM

So that's just if it is a console equipped car.
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 03:47 AM

Right, no overhead console, no extra wiring.
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 03:53 AM

Got it.Can you help me out with my other question above about the rallye dash light bar light? Thanks Snoopy!
Posted By: cataclysm80

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 04:19 AM

Wow, Great Thread!

Tav
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 05:07 AM

It plugs into the funny looking connector on the time delay wiring harness. Upper right hand corner.

Attached picture 5056528-ignitionkeylampwiringharnesspart.jpg
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 05:50 AM

Now I'm lost again.I thought the switch title light plug into that funny connector...help
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 05:54 AM

Both lights are called Title Lamps and they both plug into that connector.
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question - 02/27/09 06:02 AM

OK,now I'm found again!I'll hopefully be installing the correct harness this weekend so if I got any more questions Snoopy,I'll drop you a line.Thanks for taking the time and answering all my questions.Have you talked to BeepBeep lately? Hope his doing well.Thanks again
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