Organisol "look" and "texture"

Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 01:57 AM

Hey gang....

I know I may be opening up a can of worms here...

I am trying to detail the taillamp panel on my Daytona with a more appropriate OEM-correct look. The finish on the Daytona now is too glossy and smooth. I know it is supposed to have the Organisol paint to it. The paint job on the Daytona's nice, but with that said, is pretty old ( 1994 ). I don't have a spray gun or appropriate size air compressor. I bought a can of Organisol paint from Totally Auto and it is crap.. Now, the paint might be ok, but the spraying stinks.... Sprays for about 3 seconds and then stops. I'm sure it is a defect in the can that Totally Auto contracts out? Regardless, I'm leary of purchasing another can at $25.00. Is there any name brand paints out there that provides a satin/rough feel like Organisol, like BBQ paint or something?

Posted By: Stewpar

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 02:08 AM

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Hey gang....

I know I may be opening up a can of worms here...

I am trying to detail the taillamp panel on my Daytona with a more appropriate OEM-correct look. The finish on the Daytona now is too glossy and smooth. I know it is supposed to have the Organisol paint to it. The paint job on the Daytona's nice, but with that said, is pretty old ( 1994 ). I don't have a spray gun or appropriate size air compressor. I bought a can of Organisol paint from Totally Auto and it is crap.. Now, the paint might be ok, but the spraying stinks.... Sprays for about 3 seconds and then stops. I'm sure it is a defect in the can that Totally Auto contracts out? Regardless, I'm leary of purchasing another can at $25.00. Is there any name brand paints out there that provides a satin/rough feel like Organisol, like BBQ paint or something?

I have used their paints as well and have run into this issue as well. Change out the nozzles and you will be fine. Make sure you tip the can upside down and spray out the remaining paint so it doesn't clog on your next use. They usually pack an extra nozzle, did they?

I really like their product overall.....

Posted By: mopar346

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 02:27 AM

Black sprayable primer from Advance is a real close match color wise and not too bad on the texture side. What I don't know is how it will hold up to sunlight, I used on the behind the bumper area on my AAR, if was tough to tell where the organosol stopped and the primer started, been on for 6 months on so with out fade.

I tried to post a picture but it was too big, PM and I will send them to you.

Posted By: RJS

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 02:28 AM

Yes they have great paint considering it's in a spray can but there are always nozzle problems.
They used to and still may give you extra nozzles with every can. The only real fix I ever had was using a Undercoat nozzle with their thick textured stuff.
Also you have to shake their can's (is that even legal?) longer than a normal spray can.

Beware much testing is needed because it will spray out like never before!!!!
Ron

Posted By: hemi68charger

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 03:27 AM

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Yes they have great paint considering it's in a spray can but there are always nozzle problems.
They used to and still may give you extra nozzles with every can. The only real fix I ever had was using a Undercoat nozzle with their thick textured stuff.
Also you have to shake their can's (is that even legal?) longer than a normal spray can.

Beware much testing is needed because it will spray out like never before!!!!
Ron

Yeah Ron...
I value your judgement and experience. I shook the can for many many minutes. As you know from my posting here too, I've been doing this sort of thing for a long time, granted not at the professional level.

I changed out the nozzle with the new one that was provided with the can. Cleaned it out multiple times..... The nozzles are clean, it has to be the valve within the can the nozzles press into.... There are times when, if I hold it JUST right, the nozzle sprays continuously. But, with the panel, I need to be able to make a continuous spray pattern from one side to the next, then back and be consistent about it. Per the cans instruction, I need, for best results, apply two coats. I'm not here to bad-mouth Totally Auto, I just feel like I'm wasting my time. I once had a can from them years ago and it did the same thing. I don't know if there's a shelf life to these. I bough the can, oh,,,,,, about 9 months ago?

I'll call them tomorrow and see what they say..... I basically just threw $25 out the window...

Thanks for the input..

Posted By: mopar346

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 03:39 AM

black sprayable primer from Advance is a real close match color wise and not too bad on the texture side. What I don't know is how it will hold up to sunlight, I used on the behind the bumper area on my AAR, if was tough to tell where the organosol stopped and the primer started, been on for 6 months on so with out fade.

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Posted By: hemi68charger

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 03:53 AM

Has anyone heard of the Dutch Boy #3751 Black Satin? I believe it was mentioned once in the wwboa.org club?

Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 04:25 AM

.....Might want to try Mar-Hyde, spraying at some distance will give you more texture, of course the correct method is to have the proper spray equipment and product

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Posted By: RJS

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 04:26 AM

Yep I'm not bad mouthing their stuff either I used it over the years.
Butt... it really is hit or miss with their paint. Believe it or not I have some grill Argent from them for probably 15+ years that still works but only with the undercoat nozzle.

They will probably make it right for you.

Oh and never used or saw the Dutch Boy.

Maybe that Advance store primer will workout for you.
Ron

Posted By: Triggerfish

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 05:15 AM

On a car that rare, I'd buy the Organisol from Frank Badalson & have someone load it in their gun & shoot it for you. That's what I did for my Challenger & it looked great & held up great. You can prep it & mask
it to save some bucks. IMO, its better than having to redo it because clogged up spray nozzles left it clumpy & splotchy on your Daytona.

Posted By: EL5 71

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/07/14 09:29 PM

Troy, I know it sounds crazy, but for $7 try spraying this stuff and see what you think. I was kinda shocked at how it turns out. Sprays nice, durable, dries to a low gloss sheen and you can experiment with the distance to achieve the texture you like.

Eddie

Posted By: moparclown

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/08/14 03:28 AM

Might want to try this out?
Heat up some water(I usually use water from my sink and thats hot enough)dump it into a coffee can and then put the paint can in and every few minutes I shake it up real good and do this three or four times before spraying any texture spray cans.

Posted By: 340wedge

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/08/14 03:49 PM

I am not one to bad mouth companies, but I bought that Organisol and the color was way to gray and the cans are terrible. At those prices they need to find another vendor. I also made the mistake of buying one of their steel colors, that did not work well either, and they were expensive cans of paint! I ended up finding Krylon for the steel color that was an exact match to theirs except it was about $4 a can.

Posted By: FY1TA

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/08/14 09:02 PM

This stuff looks great .

http://www.zorotools.com/g/00060682/k-G2...tm_campaign=PLA

Posted By: cbusters

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/08/14 09:09 PM

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On a car that rare, I'd buy the Organisol from Frank Badalson & have someone load it in their gun & shoot it for you. That's what I did for my Challenger & it looked great & held up great. You can prep it & mask
it to save some bucks. IMO, its better than having to redo it because clogged up spray nozzles left it clumpy & splotchy on your Daytona.

Second that! Do it right or do it again.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/09/14 05:52 AM

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Might want to try this out?
Heat up some water(I usually use water from my sink and thats hot enough)dump it into a coffee can and then put the paint can in and every few minutes I shake it up real good and do this three or four times before spraying any texture spray cans.

Thats what I've done with great success with the exception of burning my hand once. lol

Posted By: EL5 71

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/24/14 11:47 PM

Got around to spraying a few pieces with the Rust-Oleum Truck Bed Coating a few days ago. Stuff looks and feels awesome...just hope it holds up well.

Posted By: EL5 71

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/24/14 11:48 PM

Posted By: EL5 71

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/24/14 11:49 PM

One half of a can did this entire rear spoiler top and bottom. Legs also painted with it separately. Spray tip is AWESOME!! Never clogged once and I used up the rest of the can right to the very last drop with zero issues. Sprayed from around 24 inches away. No streaks or runs...lays down nice like it was shot from my gun and not a rattle can. It even filled a few scratches on my spoiler and made them hard to see where they were. I sprayed mine at work and put it in a bake oven at 90 degrees for one hour. Not the true factory Organisol, but definately nice for a driver type show car. Looks as if it will touch up very easily also.

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Posted By: Grizzly

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/26/14 09:29 AM

Nice job, EL5 71!

Posted By: 1972CudaV21

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/26/14 04:08 PM

Does that paint have UV protection?

Posted By: EL5 71

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/26/14 04:23 PM

Thanks Grizzly. I left the empty can at work so I'll have to read up about the UV protection tomorrow night when I go back. I hope it does though. I wonder, if it doesn't have very good UV protection, maybe I can low gloss clear coat it with something that does. Maybe i should have painted a piece and threw it outside for a while before I tried it on the spoiler lol.

Posted By: hemi68charger

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/28/14 03:17 PM

Thanks everyone for your replies..

Totally Auto sent me another can of Organisol and this can worked out great. I was able to spray the whole taillamp panel. I sprayed a little closer than normal. Yes, I wanted the color and sheen of the original, but I wanted to cut down a wee bit on the "texture". I was able to accomplish this. The panel looks great and will much easier to wipe down.

Edward, nice local solution to the Organisol recreation...

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Posted By: MOPARMIKE69

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/28/14 04:03 PM

That looks MUCH better then the rough finish everyone seems to think is correct on the cars. Use the original stuff and you get original results. Even if it takes several tries! DAMHIK

Posted By: EL5 71

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 04/28/14 11:56 PM

Now that the spoiler has cured for a week or so, it does feel a bit gritty. I sprayed a small test area with Sems wheel and trim clear (semi-gloss) and it richened up the black color and smoothed out the texture feel a little. I'll probably take it into work this week, disassemble it and clear it just to see the results. Maybe even just shoot everything in low gloss black right over this coating to see how it looks. This is a scratched First Place spoiler I have (not my original) that I'm trying this stuff on. I like to see the results on an actual part instead of just a small test piece. Oh, and MEK seems to remove it without too much effort. Tail panel looks great Troy!! I like Totally's Organisol. Used it many many times. Hate the smell...but love the paint.

Posted By: 1MYTGTX

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 05/01/14 02:21 AM

I recently had the V21 Hood Performance Treatment added to my Charger. After some contemplating using Badalson's Organasol or another paint, I chose to go with SEM's Hot Rod Black kit.
http://www.semproducts.com/hot-rod-black-kit/

My bud Bill (bill440rt) sprayed one overage coat & then 3 "dry spray" coats to create some texture.

Very happy with the results. This paint will be durable & easy to care for on a large area like my hood.

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Posted By: 1MYTGTX

Re: Organisol "look" and "texture" - 05/01/14 02:24 AM

close up of texture when paint was dry for a day.

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