BO 29 cars

I know this Dodge Dealership quite well Mccannix and you and I stood on the property together after the Dealership was shut down. This BO29 Car is a well known Canadian 1968 Hemi Barracuda. As you know many went to the pick up their Hemi A Bodies in person and this is how the Barracuda made it into his posession. The car to be picked up was to be and Automatic car but ended up being a stick. Maybe when you picked up your car from Chrysler you did not have to go back to the dealership with it in person. The LO Hemi Dart that was sold new from this same Dealership was shipped to the Dealer and picked up there. I have talked to a few salesmen and mechanics that worked at this Dealership and none have ever stated about the sale of a BO29 Hemi Barracuda but told me about a Hemi Four Door Coronet and also a 1968 LO Hemi Dart. Next time get were Rod worked correctly in that time period of the early Seventies, that was Ontario Chrysler, he later work at Annadale Dodge and then at the Dealership in Courtice.

So what I am asking Mccannix, did Chrysler Canada put some kind of limits on what Dealership could sell the 1968 Super Stock cars. This original owner of the Baracuda said there were only two BO29s that came to Canada. Do not know if that is true or not, but maybe out of the batch of cars his came from only two came to Canada.

Have you talked with Mark Janaky?

The one in Ontario, just changed hands a few weeks ago, still in original condition with 14 miles on it. BO29

Chycho, do you know what transmission that Barracuda came from the factory with and who was the Racers Name on the Barracuda.

Moparo on another thread he mentioned the car you stated sold lately. I new of that Hemi Barracuda Race Car but could never get the guy I knew that grew up with the owner to go over and talk to him. It has been 20 years since this person told me about the Barracuda Race Car from Welland. I new this car was fling under the Radar but the owner new what he had. He also told me about an A12 that was sold new in Welland and the guy that bought that car new Father owned a Foreign car Dealership. I think this car a Super Bee might be the one Scott R. owns now. For the great size of Ontario, Canada nothing can stay hidden for ever.

How many (BO 29) Hemi Barracudas were built?

I think one of them has found its way to Sweden.


Nicklas

I don't mean to derail this thread, but DAMN some of you guys are a wealth of information. You guys should write a book or three. SERIOUSLY, preserve this knowledge for future generations.

Talk to Mark before and he tries to keep up to date on a lot of these cars. When I use to care more about these cars and wanted to buy one 30 plus years ago, I believe there were kind of three lots of BO29 Barracudas and two lots of LO29 Darts. This means that most of these cars are sequenced or in a row via the serial numbers and even the SO numbers are sequenced in a row or the ones I saw were. Most of us back in the day never thought this Hobby would reach this kind of level. Going fast on the street and on the track and both mattered a lot more than how Chrysler build a car. Most in the olds day modified everything that Chrysler did, motors, transmission, change the rear end gears, modified the suspension, took a ton of weight out of their cars. It was tough to go 9s or 10s without doing this to a Mopar. I can remember going to the Dealership on Fridays after being paid to pick up what you ordered the week before and then going to your speed shop on Saturday to do the same thing with aftermarket parts you had ordered and then start putting the stuff on you car for the street races on Saturday night and the track on Sunday. Those were the years when people actually wanted their cars to be faster than the next guy and used them to the fullest, those were the fun years.

Yep, here is my L023 state of the art in 1974...

I asked a question about John Petrie to some Canadian guys a while back. John was a factory racer - put on clinics like Sox & Martin but he raced both Plymouths & Dodges - most factory racers were contracted by either Plymouth or Dodge and they only raced that brand. I was told that in Canada the dealers sold Plymouths & Dodges. I have never been to Canada but that was what I was told - that might explain things. I am Curious what dealership this was - I have listings for two Canadian dealerships that ordered BO29 cars- curious if there was another.
They made three runs of Darts and two runs of Barracudas the SO # in these batches are sequential.
Mark J
68 Hemi SS Registry

I know 100 percent that you can order a Dodge from a Plymouth Dealership. I know you can order a Chevy from a GMC Dealership I have done both. The thing I can not figure out is this BO29 car was ordered from a Dealership that was 40 miles away from were this purchaser lived and it was a Plymouth from a Dodge Dealerhsip . There are plenty of Dealers just miles away from were this guy lived in 1968. I say pictures of the purchaser with the car when he picked it up from Chrysler, not the dealer but from Chrysler. He told me that he wanted an automatic BO29 but ended up with the Four speed. There was an automatic BO29 sold in Ontario and I was told it was sold recently. There could be one reason that this car was sold new at this dealership. Some smaller dealers did not sell hemi cars to the public if another dealership that had mechanics that had taken the multiple carb. courses from Chrysler were near.

Mark I posted they made multiple runs of BO and LO cars but could not remember who got the extra run. 25 years ago I looked into buying a Hemi A Body. Looked at one Hemi Dart owned by John Brown out of Ohio. The ownership was in John Petries name in a East Coast Canadian Ownership. I also looked at two other Darts that were owned by a person in New Jersey, that were sold into Michigan. I also believe John Petrie never got a Hemi A Body new. He raced a Ford Funny car in 1967-68. John Petrie next Chrysler with a hemi that he raced was in 1969 I believe.

This BO29 Hemi that I am talking about in Ontario ended up being raced by Drag Supply the owner being Frank Elliott in BMP. I believe this car was also the Beatty and Woods car out of Rexdale Ontario. The car now sits in a garage and is owned by two people and they are going to restore it to a previous state, maybe back to the Dragway Supply look.

Mark I have a question for you. Did all BO and LO hemi A Bodies come with those little breathers for the carbs along with the stacks that went to the hood.

It might be a simple as many Chrysler dealers made their bread & butter selling family cars - others were more performance oriented -maybe he knew someone at that dealership?? Could be a lot of reasons. Some dealers didn't want to deal with a car like this. Why would someone come across the country to get a Hemi Dart at Grand Spaulding Dodge when they could just order it from their local dealer?
Granted, you could go home with it from Grand Spaulding. I am sure there is a story there from the original owner but I don't know if I would read much into it. I have Chrysler paperwork that shows B029 cars ordered by a Dealer in Ontario and Toronto - this is an early list and does not include all the cars - the Ontario Dealer is not the one that Frank Elliot said his car came from though - that is why I was curious about which dealership this car came from.
John Petrie never raced a Hemi Dart - I am not sure where that started but like a lot of other things about these cars, someone said it and now everyone believes it.
Mark J
68 Hemi S/S Registry

Are you going to be at the Larry Roesch swap meet tomorrow?

Perhaps the dealership 40 miles away that ordered it for him had initially planned to sponsor the car..best way to drum up sales business back in the day with their name on it somewhere.

Start with the Petrie car. When I looked at the Dart it was in John Petries name but in John Brown of Ohio hands. John Brown and I had discussed that it would not cost any duty coming back into Canada because it was in a Canadian Province Ownership with Petries name on it. Could there be two John Petries,yes, that is a very common name in Canada. The car was at Mopar Nationals way back in the first two or three years it was held in Columbus Ohio. John Brown had built a motor for it and the car went 10.60s. If you know who John Brown is from Ohio he had at one time 4 68 Hemi A Bodies all real cars.
This guy that showed me with the Bill of Sale says Frank Elliotts car was his. He said only two BO29 Cars were sold into Ontario, Canada. The Bill of sale has a silent partner on it. It shows a location of a garage in Oakville on the Bill of sale. Oakville, Ontario is on the South West side of Toronto and the bill of sale shows a Dealership on the East side of Toronto. I got a email today that jogged my memory about the Elliott car. Frank Elliott put it up for sale for around 13K back in the late 70s early 80s. I do not think this is the Beatty and Woods 68 Hemi Barracuda since Elliott still owned the car at that time. My Challenger raced against the Beatty and woods Hemi 68 Barracuda they were in the same class and a 1971 Hemi Challenger just could not compete because the cars were 500lbs in weight difference from an E Body to a A body with a Hemi and four speed and Danas. This was around 1972-3.

I know Petrie name was on the Ownership of the 1968 Hemi Dart that John Brown owned. That car was paint white when I saw it in Columbus. That car was driven on the street by John Brown. There is a guy in Manitoba, Canada that says he has a Petrie LO Hemi Dart. I do not know if this is the same car that John Brown owned. I lived within 3 Miles of John Petrie back in 1965 to 1980, I do not remember him owning a 1968 Hemi A Body. I know he raced a Ford Funny car then in 1968. In 1969 he had a 1969 Hemi GTX Conv. and a 1969 Hemi Super Bee. The Petrie Super Bee is still alive, now the GTX is said to maybe be still alive, I do not know for sure about the GTX. Mark email me the Dealership name and I will tell you if it is the same. This is not the only Hemi A Body this Dealership sold. I know they sold a LO Hemi Dart.

Just found some pictures posted by a friend of mine on his facebook site and then someone posted them on Class Racer. These are the pictures of the car being picked up when new.

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?p=424795

Mark look at the Number on the Window.

Chryco, the BO29 Car was it originally a four speed or an Automatic. I know the one from the Welland area was an Automatic and became a four speed.

The Beatty and Woods car, the last time I saw it in the late 80's, had a tube chassis in it. The only part of the original car remaining was the shell. The owner at that time had the VIN in his tool box.

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The Beatty and Woods cuda has since had its updated race car chassis modifications removed ,and factory floors and rails re-installed a few years ago .A common practice performed to bring many of these old factory race car warhorses back to day one configuration, as most were raced hard and heavily modified to stay competitive, and caged for safety as they got faster .Interesting is car when found still had the hurst thin doors ,grey primer under the weatherstrip trim ,and some other BO unique items as well. Cool piece of Canadian mopar drag racing history,according to registry the only known auto BO delivered new to Canada ,originally from Niagara Falls ,and still resides in Canada .