Posted By: m46rat
Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 04:47 PM
A couple of things just don't look right to me on these tags. Comments from anyone please.
Anyone know the history on this car?
Posted By: hemi68charger
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 05:33 PM
If it is correct, that is a VERY early production car. Production for the new model year usually started around 01 Aug..... the "M" in the VON designates something special, not sure off the top of my head.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 05:45 PM
I have 100116. Mine is one of the "Announcement" show cars.
Almost everything looks identical - option-wise...except...
I don't have A28 on my tag or N97 either..both Noise reduction..Funny it shows the chrome tips too....is that normal with an N97 car? Also the spacing looks a little funny...but maybe not. R11 is the last thing on mine on the second tag...before the VIN.
I also have A67 on mine - window louvres.
Almost everything looks identical - option-wise...except...
I don't have A28 on my tag or N97 either..both Noise reduction..Funny it shows the chrome tips too....is that normal with an N97 car? Also the spacing looks a little funny...but maybe not. R11 is the last thing on mine on the second tag...before the VIN.
I also have A67 on mine - window louvres.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 06:00 PM
Pics of mine. Restored. I have the broadcast sheet for it as well. AB - I think it was shown at the Texas show when new.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 06:01 PM
Second tag....
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 06:02 PM
The pic you posted.....
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 06:21 PM
Mr. FJ5 , what gears in your car ?
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 06:25 PM
The show cars all came with 3.23 open rears and 22" rads (with shroud - lol). No axle package. Everything you could see on these cars was put on....stuff you couldn't see was standard. They did get disc brakes though...
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 06:31 PM
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The show cars all came with 3.23 open rears and 22" rads (with shroud - lol). No axle package. Everything you could see on these cars was put on....stuff you couldn't see was standard. They did get disc brakes though...
Thanks , the car in question has 26 on the tag ...
the tags look different between the 2 cars ...
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 06:34 PM
Yes - Weird - no axle package and a 26 on there........I don't think that should be...
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 08:14 PM
& the cars have SHAKERS that are NOT coded on the tags 
FJ5 - what's the sequence number on your car's b'cast sheet?
partial sheet for CANADA "PROMO" BH23G1B100011
.jpg "7808585-1b10011-bs(seq).jpg")
FJ5 - what's the sequence number on your car's b'cast sheet?
partial sheet for CANADA "PROMO" BH23G1B100011
Posted By: m46rat
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 08:26 PM
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Yes - Weird - no axle package and a 26 on there........I don't think that should be...
Looks like the A28 code, which is a noise reduction package, comes with max cooling, which would be a 26" rad.
Do you know why some cars come with both an A67 code and a J68 code on the same tag? I have a 71 Gran Coupe that has both codes on its tag, yours does too, but the one in question does not.
Posted By: A12
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 08:28 PM
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& the cars have SHAKERS that are NOT coded on the tags
FJ5 - what's the sequence number on your car's b'cast sheet?
I'd bet it's a difference of 16 or a few numbers less
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 08:31 PM
There's one of the '71 'Promo' E-body's here...
'Semi' locally...
'Semi' locally...
Posted By: mastiffd
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/09/13 09:08 PM
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I have 100116. Mine is one of the "Announcement" show cars.
Almost everything looks identical - option-wise...except...
I don't have A28 on my tag or N97 either..both Noise reduction..Funny it shows the chrome tips too....is that normal with an N97 car? Also the spacing looks a little funny...but maybe not. R11 is the last thing on mine on the second tag...before the VIN.
I also have A67 on mine - window louvres.
I was always under the impression N97 cars did not receive chrome tips or dual exhaust through the rear valance for that matter. The exhaust had turndowns just below the rear valance which did not have cut outs for the chrome tips.
However I could be sadly mistaken.
Posted By: 1cuda
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/10/13 01:54 PM
this might sound like a stupid question but...anyone got a pic of the shaker cable hole on any of these two cars-are any of these two the one that was the salt test car that roger gibson restored? the shaker hole on that car exited from a different spot on the firewall than what is the norm on 70-71 cuda`s. don`t know why it exited there as these were early 71 cars not early 70 cars.
all the best.
frank.
all the best.
frank.
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/10/13 02:41 PM
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Comments from anyone please.
Appears to be remade with codes added.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/12/13 01:28 PM
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& the cars have SHAKERS that are NOT coded on the tags
FJ5 - what's the sequence number on your car's b'cast sheet?
I'll have a look and post...I'm curious as well.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/12/13 01:30 PM
Quote:
this might sound like a stupid question but...anyone got a pic of the shaker cable hole on any of these two cars-are any of these two the one that was the salt test car that roger gibson restored? the shaker hole on that car exited from a different spot on the firewall than what is the norm on 70-71 cuda`s. don`t know why it exited there as these were early 71 cars not early 70 cars.
all the best.
frank.
Mine was the other (non salt test) car that Roger did. Both were in his shop at pretty well the same time.
Posted By: gtx6970
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/12/13 06:47 PM
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Mine was the other (non salt test) car that Roger did. Both were in his shop at pretty well the same time.
Frank P's car ?
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/12/13 07:06 PM
No - The car that Frank bought was John Hadjis' - which was the salt test car. Mine was the low sodium model. 
Posted By: 62maxwgn
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/12/13 07:40 PM
And this one!
Posted By: 1cuda
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/13/13 11:07 AM
any pics of the shaker hole-i`ve seen a pic of one of the cars roger did and the shaker hole was in a wierd spot-just curious (no pun intended) on why the cable exited there. the right front fender had a bad mis alignment to the grill area as well
all the best
frank.
all the best
frank.
Posted By: biggE
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/14/13 09:04 PM
A contractor in the San Francisco CA area had a promo car restored and then sold it when the economy went south. I think this may have been the car. As far as I know it was pretty rough, missing drive train and fender tag. Chuck Hoffman may know more about it.
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/14/13 10:26 PM
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and 22" rads (with shroud - lol).
Dave
Posted By: wate
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/15/13 01:27 AM
never seen A28 on a fender tag, N97 meant it didn't have tips. correct me on this, I thought N97 was for 1970 models, not 1971??
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/15/13 05:10 AM
My old 6bbl 71... N97 N98... sold new in California... also note the "I" for international sales; it was a military ordered car.
Posted By: 2fast4yourBrain
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/15/13 08:49 AM
Fake.
N42 AND N97? On a v-code sold in CA???
N42 AND N97? On a v-code sold in CA???
Posted By: 1cuda
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/15/13 09:09 AM
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Fake.
N42 AND N97? On a v-code sold in CA???
i wouldn`t question jason repucci`s knowledge and i can`t see n42 on that REAL tag...
all the best
frank.
Posted By: m46rat
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/15/13 12:42 PM
The N42 and N97 are on the second tag of the car I was originally inquiring about. Note that both are not on Jason's posted tag.
Posted By: 2fast4yourBrain
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/15/13 09:07 PM
Is N97 a '71 thing and N95 a '70 thing regarding CA emissions???
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/16/13 12:22 AM
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Is N97 a '71 thing and N95 a '70 thing regarding CA emissions???
No, you can find N95 and N97 on a 70 tag.
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/16/13 04:39 PM
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& the cars have SHAKERS that are NOT coded on the tags
FJ5 - what's the sequence number on your car's b'cast sheet?
Mine is (2)000732
The b-cast sequence on one of the other cars is 000786
Some of the other M #'s on real, documented cars are: M01099 and M01102
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/16/13 05:03 PM
Here is a crummy cell phone pic of mine....
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/16/13 06:58 PM
The sheet I posted a portion of is one of the "Dealer Announcement Units" for CANADA - BH23G1B100011. For the '71 model year, Canada also had 383 2bbl Barracuda convertible "Dealer Announcement Units".
Has anyone seen any other "PROMO" '71 Barracudas/Gran Coupes/'Cudas?
Has anyone seen any other "PROMO" '71 Barracudas/Gran Coupes/'Cudas?
Posted By: FJ5_Fish
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/21/13 04:06 PM
So is 100100 a legit car with incorrect re-pop tags?
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 01:38 AM
BH23G1B100010
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 01:43 AM
100105
Maybe 100103 (Vargas?)
Maybe 100103 (Vargas?)
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 01:47 AM
100079
Fuzzy picture. Looks like an M VON
Fuzzy picture. Looks like an M VON
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 01:49 AM
Remember this one? Part 1
100126
100126
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 01:53 AM
What is CAR 000142 - Probably VON M02107
Remember this one? Part 2
100378
Remember this one? Part 2
100378
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 02:03 AM
100112 (01105)
I herd that this one has N96 on the Data Plate.
I herd that this one has N96 on the Data Plate.
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 06:24 AM
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100105
Maybe 100103 (Vargas?)
Yes, that was DJ Vargas' BS23V1B100103
prowler
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 06:25 AM
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100079
Fuzzy picture. Looks like an M VON
Is that "R21" on the top line?
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 08:28 AM
"PROMO" 318 hardtops for CANADA - "in violet metallic"
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/22/13 08:31 AM
Ola, do you have any car or tag pics of the "PROMO" BH27L1B10000s for CANADA? Do any of them have a sheet?
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/23/13 06:24 AM
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"PROMO" 318 hardtops for CANADA - "in violet metallic"
Not that I'm questioning authenticity but why the difference in the door tags and only one vin apart?
Posted By: m46rat
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/23/13 04:10 PM
I have a pic. of the VIN for BS23N1B100020 but I can't figure out how to post it. It is another super early Canadian car.
Posted By: 1cuda
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/23/13 04:48 PM
funny how threads change subject but it`s all good info
how about BH23N1B100030 n code barracuda
how about BH23N1B100030 n code barracuda
Posted By: YYZ
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/23/13 05:33 PM
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Ola, do you have any car or tag pics of the "PROMO" BH27L1B10000s for CANADA? Do any of them have a sheet?
BH27L1B100005 is still around - whether or not the sheet is (or will be shared) is another matter since this is the car that became BS27N1B100005
100002 was parted out in Ontario years ago
Posted By: 6bblgt
Anyone know history on any 1971 "PROMO/PILOT 'Cuda? - 08/23/13 06:28 PM
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funny how threads change subject but it`s all good info
how about BH23N1B100030 n code barracuda
Frank, Any fender tag trans/color combo info on that one?
BH23N1B100034 & BH27N1B100035 were both "Chrysler of France" vehicles, the convertible was white/white top w/blue interior & was on display at the Paris Auto Show fall of '70.
m46rat's pic
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/23/13 06:46 PM
Quote:Quote:
"PROMO" 318 hardtops for CANADA - "in violet metallic"
Not that I'm questioning authenticity but why the difference in the door tags and only one vin apart?
From what I've heard .....
If a car was damaged or had other issues (for example, ASC sunroof cars were also finished on this "line") that caused it to be pulled from the main assembly line it was moved to a "repair line" (I don't know Chrysler's actual name for this other line). When it was completed, final inspected, & door tag issued on this "repair line" the door tag was printed from a machine that had the typewriter font of 100010's tag.
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Anyone know history on any 1971 PROMO/PILOT 'Cuda? - 08/23/13 06:54 PM
..... to add to Ola's pre-production PILOT car info above:
I own BH23C1B100121, which I believe is pictured in the '71 Parts Catalog.
It is missing it's original fender tag, but I believe it was "CAR 000114".
GW3/GW3/H5X9/E24/D13/M85/J21/R11 - that's about it.
I own BH23C1B100121, which I believe is pictured in the '71 Parts Catalog.
It is missing it's original fender tag, but I believe it was "CAR 000114".
GW3/GW3/H5X9/E24/D13/M85/J21/R11 - that's about it.
Posted By: YYZ
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/23/13 06:59 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
"PROMO" 318 hardtops for CANADA - "in violet metallic"
Not that I'm questioning authenticity but why the difference in the door tags and only one vin apart?
From what I've heard .....
If a car was damaged or had other issues (for example, ASC sunroof cars were also finished on this "line") that caused it to be pulled from the main assembly line it was moved to a "repair line" (I don't know Chrysler's actual name for this other line). When it was completed, final inspected, & door tag issued on this "repair line" the door tag was printed from a machine that had the typewriter font of 100010's tag.
Yes. It's not common but that font style does come up from time to time.
Another original (last 3 digits of the VIN retouched out)
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Anyone know history on any 1971 PROMO/PILOT 'Cuda? - 08/23/13 07:03 PM
BH23C1B100121 - CAR 000114 - M02079 - GW3
BS23H1B100126 - CAR 000141 - M02106 - GY3
BS23R1B100378 - CAR 000143 - M02108 - FJ6
Were 1971 model year Plymouth e-body pre-production "pilot" cars - that survive today. The date coded parts on my car are from March/April '70.
I think the "CAR #s" (Chrysler Automotive Research) were the same as "JOB #s" on other years' PILOT cars.
I believe these pictures are of BH23C1B100121
BS23H1B100126 - CAR 000141 - M02106 - GY3
BS23R1B100378 - CAR 000143 - M02108 - FJ6
Were 1971 model year Plymouth e-body pre-production "pilot" cars - that survive today. The date coded parts on my car are from March/April '70.
I think the "CAR #s" (Chrysler Automotive Research) were the same as "JOB #s" on other years' PILOT cars.
I believe these pictures are of BH23C1B100121
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 03:12 AM
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Ola, do you have any car or tag pics of the "PROMO" BH27L1B10000s for CANADA? Do any of them have a sheet?
Yes. I have not seen a Broadcast sheet....yet.
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 03:13 AM
2
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know history on any 1971 "PROMO/PILOT 'Cuda? - 08/24/13 03:24 AM
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BH27N1B100035
P37 Y93 EN2
J25 L25 N41 N42 N85 P31
V3W I A62 B51 C16 C55
GW3 H6B5 000 802 Exxxxx
E65 D32 BH27 N1B 100035
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 03:30 AM
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funny how threads change subject but it`s all good info
how about BH23N1B100030 n code barracuda
Go'day Frank. Is 100030 down in your part of the world?
Ola
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 03:34 AM
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100002 was parted out in Ontario years ago
M31 M91 R11 V6W Y93 EN2
V3W C B51 C16 C55 G36
GB5 H6B5 000 802 B99116
E61 D32 BH27 L1B 100002
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know history on any 1971 "PROMO/PILOT 'Cuda? - 08/24/13 03:37 AM
Quote:
BH23N1B100034
FE5 H6X9
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 03:45 AM
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I have a pic. of the VIN for BS23N1B100020 but I can't figure out how to post it. It is another super early Canadian car.
BS23N1B100020...CANADA Specs...No Data Plate info, was in Mankota, Saskatchewan, Canada in the 90s
Posted By: cudaized
Re: Anyone know history on any 1971 PROMO/PILOT 'Cuda? - 08/24/13 03:48 AM
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BH23C1B100121 - CAR 000114 - M02079 -
I had the VON as M02101, but I can't locate my notes on your car. OR why I had that VON.
I take it you have the correct VON from documents/plate?
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 05:48 AM
Quote:
From what I've heard .....
If a car was damaged or had other issues (for example, ASC sunroof cars were also finished on this "line") that caused it to be pulled from the main assembly line it was moved to a "repair line" (I don't know Chrysler's actual name for this other line). When it was completed, final inspected, & door tag issued on this "repair line" the door tag was printed from a machine that had the typewriter font of 100010's tag.
Thanks for that, certainly makes sense.
cudaized, Ola, how is it you've come to know about so many of the rarer cudas? If I may.
And thanks to the op for the original question.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 05:51 AM
Ola is the caretaker of the 1970-71 E-body Convertible Registry.
Like any registry, not all of the data presented to it is factual, but it is recorded.
Like any registry, not all of the data presented to it is factual, but it is recorded.
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 08:43 AM
Posted By: 1cuda
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 11:38 AM
Quote:Quote:
funny how threads change subject but it`s all good info
how about BH23N1B100030 n code barracuda
Go'day Frank. Is 100030 down in your part of the world?
Ola
ola-1000030 is not in australia-had that picture saved from a site years ago in europe-not going to speculate on which country it could have been-can`t remember. i will post other pics of it that i have. no fender tag pics sorry but the car would still be out there.
all the best
frank
Posted By: 1cuda
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 11:39 AM
anyone recognize which country that license plate is?
Posted By: 1cuda
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 11:40 AM
another pic
Posted By: 1cuda
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 11:41 AM
last one
all the best
frank
all the best
frank
Posted By: m46rat
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 02:57 PM
Quote:
anyone recognize which country that license plate is?
Switzerland
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 03:23 PM
Quote:
From what I've heard .....
If a car was damaged or had other issues (for example, ASC sunroof cars were also finished on this "line") that caused it to be pulled from the main assembly line it was moved to a "repair line" (I don't know Chrysler's actual name for this other line). When it was completed, final inspected, & door tag issued on this "repair line" the door tag was printed from a machine that had the typewriter font of 100010's tag.
I agree with this theory, not only hand typed, typo mistakes were common.
Posted By: YYZ
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 08/24/13 03:39 PM
Quote:
Quote:
From what I've heard .....
If a car was damaged or had other issues (for example, ASC sunroof cars were also finished on this "line") that caused it to be pulled from the main assembly line it was moved to a "repair line" (I don't know Chrysler's actual name for this other line). When it was completed, final inspected, & door tag issued on this "repair line" the door tag was printed from a machine that had the typewriter font of 100010's tag.
I agree with this theory, not only hand typed, typo mistakes were common.
The rare 198 slant six Hemicuda!
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 09/08/13 06:30 AM
Got parted in the 90's. This is all I have.
Posted By: tallzag
Re: Anyone know the history on this car? - 09/11/13 03:24 AM
Most of the first day production 70 LA built Barracuda's ended up in the Washington/Oregon/Idaho/Montana region. All the ones in which I've been able to identify the dealer have come from region 72 which is the Northwest. Thanks for posting that one Jason, didn't have it.