Posted By: rayztoy
E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/19/08 10:54 PM
May I get some pics of correctly restored heater boxes or some untouched originals? Thank you in advance. 
Ray
Ray
E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/20/08 03:58 AM
You asked for it!
Here is one I did.
Enjoy.
Jules
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Here is one I did.
Enjoy.
Jules
Posted By: Gavin
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/20/08 12:30 PM
Sweeeet!! 
That is super nice Jules. Having done mine (not as nicely as you, mind) those pics all look very familiar.
Except the heater motor - I left that intact after testing it...........now it is all back in the car I turned it on and the motor squeals like a pig
Assessing my options........
That is super nice Jules. Having done mine (not as nicely as you, mind) those pics all look very familiar.
Except the heater motor - I left that intact after testing it...........now it is all back in the car I turned it on and the motor squeals like a pig
Assessing my options........
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/20/08 03:59 PM
Gavin,
I am sorry to say this but I never laughed so hard in my life.
"The motor squeals like a pig"
You really floored me with that one!!
Jules
I am sorry to say this but I never laughed so hard in my life.
"The motor squeals like a pig"
You really floored me with that one!!
Jules
Posted By: anlauto
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/20/08 08:00 PM
Did the large motor plates come both natrual steel and black like yours? The ones I have here have no sign of any paint on them 
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/20/08 09:01 PM
I have seen them both ways but more often than not they were black.
I have also come across some black on the outside ( visible side) and natural on the inside.
Alan, what years are the ones you have?
Jules
I have also come across some black on the outside ( visible side) and natural on the inside.
Alan, what years are the ones you have?
Jules
Posted By: rayztoy
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/20/08 09:21 PM
Jules,
Thank you very much for posting! 
Ray
Thank you very much for posting!
Ray
Posted By: anlauto
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/20/08 09:46 PM
The last one I just did was a 73 for sure and the other one I have here is for a 70...I never look close at to see the stamped dates yet, but I think it's original to the car.
Posted By: VCODE
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/20/08 10:52 PM
Jules,That is a work of ART
Thanks for the pictures
Bob
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/21/08 03:17 AM
You arewelcome rayztoy.
Thank you Bob.
Alan,
there are no date codes on those plates.
The way to tell them apart is by the studs.
70 and 71 plates have flat stud ends while 72-74 have pointed stud ends.
Jules
Thank you Bob.
Alan,
there are no date codes on those plates.
The way to tell them apart is by the studs.
70 and 71 plates have flat stud ends while 72-74 have pointed stud ends.
Jules
Posted By: anlauto
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/21/08 10:34 AM
I meant the stamped date codes on the whole assembly itself.
I can check the studs next time I get a chance.
I can check the studs next time I get a chance.
Posted By: rayztoy
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/21/08 07:35 PM
Any suggestions as what to use on the metal parts after beading/cleaning? Clear paint, silver paint, epoxy paint, natural metal, etc? What type for the black, satin, gloss, or flat? Bare or clear the heater box? Thanks in advance! 
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/21/08 08:27 PM
That would depend on what results you want for YOUR box.
The metal parts are natural so I bead them first, rub them down with 0000 steel wool then clear them.
You could also use Seymour stainless color paint. In some cases I plate them for longer durability.
The black parts are sprayed with T3 Hot rod from Plastikote.
The housings are cleared with satin clear.
Jules
The metal parts are natural so I bead them first, rub them down with 0000 steel wool then clear them.
You could also use Seymour stainless color paint. In some cases I plate them for longer durability.
The black parts are sprayed with T3 Hot rod from Plastikote.
The housings are cleared with satin clear.
Jules
Posted By: rayztoy
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/21/08 10:04 PM
AWESOME!!! I'm following your lead JULES!
Posted By: jrwoodjoe
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/22/08 06:24 PM
Quote:
Sweeeet!!
That is super nice Jules. Having done mine (not as nicely as you, mind) those pics all look very familiar.
Except the heater motor - I left that intact after testing it...........now it is all back in the car I turned it on and the motor squeals like a pig
Assessing my options........
GAVIN, Man....I'm sorry that yours went out on you. I know it's a pain and got to be frustrating. But, if it's any consolation, it can happen with new/rebuilt parts too so don't beat yourself up too bad.
I took my heater box apart and thought about reusing my old blower motor. I ended up biting the bullet and getting one from Jules. It came just this week and is really nice. But there is no way my box will look as nice as what Jules can do with one.
I'm hoping to put this thing back together this weekend but things keep coming up preventing me from getting it done. 
Posted By: rayztoy
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/22/08 08:39 PM
Joe,
Your box will come out just fine. Just take your time.
Your box will come out just fine. Just take your time.
Posted By: jrwoodjoe
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 05:30 PM
OK..I'm putting my box back together and I'm stumped. 
Where does this gasket go? 
Thanks, Joe
Where does this gasket go? Thanks, Joe
Posted By: 71rm23
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 05:34 PM
Quote:That looks like the gasket for the heater tubes. It seals the box to the firewall.
OK..I'm putting my box back together and I'm stumped.
Thanks, Joe
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 05:45 PM
Joe,
look at my picture 4 from the BOTTOM. It is the gasket that goes around the blower motor.
You have 2 types in the kit.
Jules
look at my picture 4 from the BOTTOM. It is the gasket that goes around the blower motor.
You have 2 types in the kit.
Jules
Posted By: jrwoodjoe
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 06:08 PM
Thanks guys. I'm sure Jim has it on the instruction sheet that he sent with the kit but the Gremlins have taken it somewhere. You know the ones...they're always taking bolts, screws, tools etc.
I had put it on and it fit but I looked back through my gaskets and realized that mine was the circular type in the photo that Jules has so I swapped it out. I didn't have one this shape in my stuff so it threw me off a little.
Thanks again, Joe
I had put it on and it fit but I looked back through my gaskets and realized that mine was the circular type in the photo that Jules has so I swapped it out. I didn't have one this shape in my stuff so it threw me off a little.
Thanks again, Joe
Posted By: jrwoodjoe
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 08:30 PM
Jules,
Should there be a gasket that goes here? between the flange and the inside of the heater box? The one photo I have of showing this area when I was tearing it down seems to have one but I don't see it in my box of old stuff that came off during teardown.
Joe
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Should there be a gasket that goes here? between the flange and the inside of the heater box? The one photo I have of showing this area when I was tearing it down seems to have one but I don't see it in my box of old stuff that came off during teardown.
Joe
Posted By: jrwoodjoe
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 08:33 PM
Here is the one photo I have showing that area during tear down. Looks like it has one.
Posted By: Gavin
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 08:51 PM
Quote:
Gavin,
I am sorry to say this but I never laughed so hard in my life.
"The motor squeals like a pig"
You really floored me with that one!!
Jules
Glad to have lightened your day Jules
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 10:04 PM
Joe, I have seen some with and many without. You can put one if you wish.
Jules
Jules
Posted By: jrwoodjoe
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 10:17 PM
Thanks for the info. Jules and the help. Can say this thing is finally done now. Had tons of things that kept coming up and getting in the way. I decided to go with one of Jules Motors so that it would have the correct plating and I'm glad I did. It is beautiful. Thanks to everyone for all the help. Never done won of these before and it wasn't bad at all.
The photo above gives you an idea of what it looked like. Here's the after. Thanks again everyone. Joe
The photo above gives you an idea of what it looked like. Here's the after. Thanks again everyone. Joe
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/24/08 10:56 PM
Nice job Joe.
It came out great.
It came out great.
Posted By: 71TA
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/26/08 01:09 AM
Can you believe, when I took the heater box outta my car there were NO resto kits available for them. NOW looks whats happened. I created a new hobby for you guys
GREAT jobs all of you!
Works of art Jules. Works of art!
GREAT jobs all of you!
Works of art Jules. Works of art!
Posted By: 71TA
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/26/08 01:11 AM
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Jules,
Should there be a gasket that goes here? between the flange and the inside of the heater box? The one photo I have of showing this area when I was tearing it down seems to have one but I don't see it in my box of old stuff that came off during teardown.
Joe
Does look like ther should be a gasket there. I have never seen one but bet heater cores could have been replaced in the couple boxes I used for refrence. I may make that one now.
Posted By: rayztoy
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/26/08 05:43 PM
Quote:
Nice job Joe.
It came out great.
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/26/08 06:33 PM
Jim,
your gasket kits are just awesome.
They are truly the icing on the cake.
By the way I need to order some gaskets.
Can you please call me tomorrow?
Thanks
Jules
your gasket kits are just awesome.
They are truly the icing on the cake.
By the way I need to order some gaskets.
Can you please call me tomorrow?
Thanks
Jules
Posted By: anlauto
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/26/08 07:51 PM
I think the gaskets would be better with clear self adheavsive backing on them like the originals. 
I buy mine in a craft store.
I buy mine in a craft store.
Posted By: 71TA
Re: E BODY HEATER BOX ASSY W/O AC - 11/27/08 04:23 AM
Quote:
I think the gaskets would be better with clear self adheavsive backing on them like the originals.
I buy mine in a craft store.
You mean you get the adhesive backing in the craft store?
Couple reasons I don't put the adhesive backing on. The adhesive backing applied costs more than the foam material itself. Also there is a LOT of scrap. Mostly because I like to leave the scrap attached so the foam pieces hold thier shape. I did try the adhesive backing on some items I thought the spray on 3M 77 held better and was easier to reposition.