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70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help

Posted By: FLPlum

70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 02:13 PM

Hello fellow Chyrsler enthusiasts.
If someone has an original 70 Dodge Challenger convertible with the collapsible spare, I have a question.

I have all the hardware for the trunk area , but it does not look like I have any attachment for the spare to the floor. What does the floor area look like for the attachment.

Part of my floor area was replaced.
If any one could send me a close up photo of the center floor area, that would be Great.

Thank You!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 02:42 PM

From what I remember, there was a raised piece of metal almost like a I beam or something like that which the threaded rod attached to. Unfortunately, the chally vert is in my parents garage about 40 minutes away from me. I can try and get a pic the next time im over there though.
Posted By: FLPlum

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 02:52 PM

Thanks! I have a feeling I may have to add that piece.
That's why a picture would be great. Waiting on a photo, so I can proceed, so when and if I would greatly appreciate it!
Posted By: floyd

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 02:56 PM

This should help:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4961041&an=0&page=2203
Posted By: FLPlum

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 03:02 PM

Thank You Very Much,
Looks like it may be a little more difficult than I thought.

This thread should work, but if any one has closer pic, thanks.

This forum is Great!
Mike
Posted By: AARCONV

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 03:10 PM

if you don't have everything in that picture...you are out of luck...the i beam part is not available re pro but i guess used is the way to go...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 03:12 PM

maybe I am wrong but didn't the hard tops use the same mounting bracket as the convertibles? Just that the convertibles used the different hole.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 03:44 PM

Quote:

maybe I am wrong but didn't the hard tops use the same mounting bracket as the convertibles? Just that the convertibles used the different hole.




Nope, vert is different, it doesn't have the rise built into it, it stays on the lower floor area.... But FWIW I made mine.... I cut up a couple brackets out of parts cars to get the section where the actual bolt goes & I made the section that connects them.. A little welding, a little grinding & there ya go...
Posted By: FLPlum

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 04:38 PM

Hello,
I may be getting closer to the solution.

Just ran across several vendors offering the convertible weld-in bracket.
521 restorations Ft Collions CO
Mopar Metal Vancouver WA
Aut Metal Direct GA

They are all closed on Sat., but anyone here verify these suppliers?

Thanks Again !!
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/16/12 04:44 PM

AMD is a board supporter & actually is the manufacturer... Didn't know they were making that part.... Won't help me, I made mine 18 years ago....

Confirmed, it's available... Lucky you!!

https://www.autometaldirect.com/store/pr...ld-Down-Bracket
Posted By: FLPlum

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/19/12 07:44 PM

Thank You for the link.

A couple of good pictures there. I have located the bracket through AMD. Does anyone have a closer photo of the attachment method. It looks like there are tack welds in one of the photos. Another photo looks like seam sealer was used.
Just want to make it right, if I'm going to do it!
Thanks
Posted By: FLPlum

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/19/12 07:46 PM

Any pictures of an original trunk floor spare bracket, showing the attachment to trunk??

Thanks in advance!
Mike Fields
Posted By: hemibird

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/20/12 02:34 AM

Hope this helps.

Quote:

Any pictures of an original trunk floor spare bracket, showing the attachment to trunk??

Thanks in advance!
Mike Fields




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Posted By: hemibird

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/20/12 02:36 AM


Another
Quote:

Hope this helps.

Quote:

Any pictures of an original trunk floor spare bracket, showing the attachment to trunk??

Thanks in advance!
Mike Fields







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Posted By: Mr D21

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/20/12 02:39 AM

hardtop - big difference...

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Posted By: FLPlum

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/20/12 06:46 PM

Thank You for the pictures. The light is kind of dark. How far from the edge of bracket to the crease in floor under convertible well? Looks like about 1/2 inch or so.

Also,
It is hard to see, but is the piece tack welded in several spots?
How many spots? Is there any look of original seam sealer or just welded on?

Sorry for the questions, But I just want to get it correct looking?
Mike
Posted By: hemibird

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/22/12 03:32 AM

Quote:

Thank You for the pictures. The light is kind of dark. How far from the edge of bracket to the crease in floor under convertible well? Looks like about 1/2 inch or so.

Also,
It is hard to see, but is the piece tack welded in several spots?
How many spots? Is there any look of original seam sealer or just welded on?

Sorry for the questions, But I just want to get it correct looking?
Mike





I will look tomorrow. It originally would have been spot welded in.
Posted By: larry4406

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/22/12 11:06 AM

Does this help?

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Posted By: FLPlum

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/24/12 02:10 PM

Thank You Larry 4406,

Yes this does help, as it shows every part for the trunk area. I did not know about the " N " "anti rattler jack stowage.
Also, I notice there are two different ways of stowing the bumper hook. One has it on top, and the other has it under the tire.
Still wondering how the trunk bracket was welded on at bottom, and just how it it sits (location). I think the front tip sits about an inch from the bend where the trunk floor rises up under the top well.

Thank you very much for the diagram, this is very useful.
Mike
Posted By: YYZ

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 06/24/12 06:15 PM

The convertible spare tire bracket is not usually spot welded - it is tack welded in place from the topside with a blob of weld every 1-1.5" or so.

At least for 1970

This is based on having a number of '70s, including a bracket that I removed along with part of the floorpan from a '70 'Cuda 340 convertible that was crashed/written off in 1973....
Posted By: FLPlum

Re: 70 Challenger Convertible Spare ** Need Help - 07/02/12 05:37 PM

Thank you for the reply, that will help when we weld it down.

I appreciate all who replied to my question,
Mike
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