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1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question

Posted By: moparrjm

1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 12:09 PM

My broadcast sheet is coded for a S81 steering wheel but I am not sure what it looks like. I have been doing research but all the 1971 Charger pictures I've seen either have the simulated woodgrain wheel center or a Tuff wheel. The decoding books say it is a padded wheel. Can anyone tell me what it looks like? If anyone has a S81 wheel could you post a picture. Thanks!
Posted By: ryangtogtx

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 01:09 PM

Here's picture from the Hamtramck Historical site.

Attached picture 4641307-71_Charger0010.jpg
Posted By: moparrjm

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 01:20 PM

Yeah, I've seen that but I have never seen that S81 wheel on any 71 Chargers, only woodgrain or tuffs.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:20 PM

last time around - same info, different day
Posted By: moparrjm

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:39 PM

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last time around - same info, different day



Yes but I have never seen a Charger with that wheel, this is why I am asking again to see if anyone here has a 71 Charger with that S81 wheel.
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:40 PM

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Yeah, I've seen that but I have never seen that S81 wheel on any 71 Chargers, only woodgrain or tuffs.



what ? then you haven't seen enough chargers LOL
Posted By: moparrjm

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:42 PM

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Yeah, I've seen that but I have never seen that S81 wheel on any 71 Chargers, only woodgrain or tuffs.



what ? then you haven't seen enough chargers LOL



Do you have any pictures with the S81 wheel?
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:45 PM

of course... is the MOST SEEN AND AVAILABLE WHEEL on any Mopar, not just Chargers.

This specific pic is with DODGE badge instead the tristar, but is the same wheel indeed

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Posted By: moparrjm

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:46 PM

This is the only wheel besides a tuff(code S84) or a wood grip wheel(code S83) I have seen on 71 Chargers.

Attached picture 4641556-wheel.jpg
Posted By: moparrjm

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:49 PM

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of course... is the MOST SEEN AND AVAILABLE WHEEL on any Mopar, not just Chargers



That is NOT the wheel I am talking about, the S81 wheel in the option picture above shows a black center with a small round symbol in it, the one I see has woodgrian center which is not even shown as a option.
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:49 PM

WELL... THATS THE ONE!!!!
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:51 PM

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of course... is the MOST SEEN AND AVAILABLE WHEEL on any Mopar, not just Chargers



That is NOT the wheel I am talking about, the S81 wheel in the option picture above shows a black center with a small round symbol in it, the one I see has woodgrian center which is not even shown as a option.



BUDDY, THATS THE WHEEL... the only diff is the center trim according with woodgrained car or not.

My uncle does have his dart with the black center and tristar. IS INDEED THE SAME WHEEL
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:56 PM

here is one on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vintage-M...d=p4506.c0.m245
Posted By: moparrjm

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:57 PM

OK........Let try this again......the option decoders show 2 S81 wheel options for 1971 Charger.

S81 69-71 strg whl-woodgrain sports EXC:
S81 71 strg whl-DELUXE PADDED B-BODY

The way I read this is there was a DELUXE PADDED wheel on B-BODY only, or am I read this wrong?
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 03:58 PM

another one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-73-D...d=p4506.c0.m245
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/25/08 04:00 PM

this could it be the padd for 70 models
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/70-Mopar-...d=p4506.c0.m245

But in years I just have seen the wheels on brochure with the diff noticed on the center trim on some models that looks to be mounted to match with interior options, being the 2 spokes one just on tilt columns.

the black center is not a pad, is simply a plstic trim just like the simulated woodgrain. is teh one on my uncle's dart
Posted By: charger440sixpak

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/26/08 06:08 PM

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That is NOT the wheel I am talking about, the S81 wheel in the option picture above shows a black center with a small round symbol in it, the one I see has woodgrian center which is not even shown as a option.



Actually, it is. When you ordered a 71 Charger Coupe with the standard steering wheel (S81 option), you got the steering wheel with the horn button in the center. When you ordered a 71 Charger, Charger SE, Charger 500, Charger R/T or Superbee with the standard steering wheel (S81 option), you got the steering wheel with the three horn bars (as pictured above).
Posted By: moparrjm

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/27/08 03:51 AM

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That is NOT the wheel I am talking about, the S81 wheel in the option picture above shows a black center with a small round symbol in it, the one I see has woodgrian center which is not even shown as a option.



Actually, it is. When you ordered a 71 Charger Coupe with the standard steering wheel (S81 option), you got the steering wheel with the horn button in the center. When you ordered a 71 Charger, Charger SE, Charger 500, Charger R/T or Superbee with the standard steering wheel (S81 option), you got the steering wheel with the three horn bars (as pictured above).



But what I am trying to say is I have never seen the all black padded wheel on any 71 Chargers, the simulated woodgrain center and the tuff wheel seems to be the dominant wheel.
Posted By: 1972Rallye

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/27/08 12:36 PM

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That is NOT the wheel I am talking about, the S81 wheel in the option picture above shows a black center with a small round symbol in it, the one I see has woodgrian center which is not even shown as a option.



Actually, it is. When you ordered a 71 Charger Coupe with the standard steering wheel (S81 option), you got the steering wheel with the horn button in the center. When you ordered a 71 Charger, Charger SE, Charger 500, Charger R/T or Superbee with the standard steering wheel (S81 option), you got the steering wheel with the three horn bars (as pictured above).



But what I am trying to say is I have never seen the all black padded wheel on any 71 Chargers, the simulated woodgrain center and the tuff wheel seems to be the dominant wheel.



You're correct because the S81 Wheel with the padded horn center was only available on coupes. Coupe production was not very high, so it makes sense that you would not see many of them.

I had a '73 Charger Coupe with that wheel - I actually liked it better than the Hardtop S81 wheel.

Attached picture 4645604-wheels.jpeg
Posted By: moparrjm

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/27/08 01:29 PM

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But what I am trying to say is I have never seen the all black padded wheel on any 71 Chargers, the simulated woodgrain center and the tuff wheel seems to be the dominant wheel.



You're correct because the S81 Wheel with the padded horn center was only available on coupes. Coupe production was not very high, so it makes sense that you would not see many of them.

I had a '73 Charger Coupe with that wheel - I actually liked it better than the Hardtop S81 wheel.



Thanks! That answers my question.
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/27/08 05:41 PM

thats what I'm saying... woodgrain was inserted to match with upleveled interiors, but wheel itself is the same.

I'm talking about the S81 coded wheel

NOW if we are talking about the one with thin spokes and center horn button. AS FAR I NOW was no coded since was the basic wheel. I don't think basic parts are need for a code... or do they ?

and yes, I think I can find a WL21 Charger pic( coupe basic model ) with that wheel, but is a 73. Have to search but I know who was the car and still have the pic
Posted By: 1972Rallye

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/27/08 08:01 PM

Nacho - My '71 Bee is coded S81 which is the standard wheel for all Charger models (except coupe). So they DID code the standard components.
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/28/08 06:15 AM

OK, then THERE could it be my confusion since brochure doesn't state a code for the regular wheel with center horn and I allways thought we were talking about the labeled pic with code on brochure
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/29/08 03:27 AM

per the 1970-'71 CHRYSLER Parts CATALOG:

1971 CHARGER steering wheel
STANDARD WHEEL - 3-spoke with round horn button (Charger Coupe ONLY)
** 4054
-- 4054 GB7 BLUE
-- 4054 GX9 BLACK
-- 4054 GT6 TAN

S81 - 3-spoke with (3) padded horn buttons (STANDARD all Chargers EXCEPT Coupe/OPTIONAL $10.50 Coupe )
** 4025
-- 4025 GB7 BLUE
-- 4025 GF7 GREEN
-- 4025 GT6 TAN
-- 4025 GX9 BLACK
-- 4025 GY6 GOLD
SPOKE COVER -
---- 4037 GB7 BLUE
---- 4037 GF7 GREEN
---- 4037 GT6 TAN
---- 4037 GX9 BLACK
---- 4037 GY6 GOLD
CENTER -
------ 4033 GB7 BLUE
------ 4033 GF7 GREEN
------ 4033 GT6 TAN
------ 4033 GX9 BLACK
------ 4033 GY6 GOLD
------ 3575 017 WOODGRAIN w/"DODGE"

S62 - 2-spoke w/rimblow (part of the OPTIONAL tilt-column $55.70 )
** 4012
-- 4012 GB7 BLUE
-- 4012 GF7 GREEN
-- 4012 GT6 TAN
-- 4012 GY6 GOLD
-- 4012 FX9 BLACK (shown for '70 but NOT '71??)

S83 - 3-spoke woodgrain w/rimblow (OPTIONAL $20.10 Coupe & $30.50 All Others )
** 4020
-- 4020 FTX

S84 - 3-spoke "TUFF WHEEL" (OPTIONAL $20.10 Coupe & $30.50 All Others )
** 4039
-- 4039 FX9
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/29/08 03:41 AM

I have three '71 Charger b'cast sheets handy:

WH23 w/C2X9 interior & S81 ***-- 4025 GX9 BLACK
STEERING WHEEL - 67X9
HORN PAD ------- 66X9

WP29 w/CRX9 interior & S81 ***-- 4025 GX9 BLACK
STEERING WHEEL - 67X9
HORN PAD ------- 66X9

WS23 w/D6X9 interior & S84 ***-- 4039 FX9 BLACK
STEERING WHEEL - 37X9
HORN PAD ------- 19X9

Posted By: moparrjm

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 08/29/08 03:53 AM

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I have three '71 Charger b'cast sheets handy:

WH23 w/C2X9 interior & S81 ***-- 4025 GX9 BLACK
STEERING WHEEL - 67X9
HORN PAD ------- 66X9

WP29 w/CRX9 interior & S81 ***-- 4025 GX9 BLACK
STEERING WHEEL - 67X9
HORN PAD ------- 66X9

WS23 w/D6X9 interior & S84 ***-- 4039 FX9 BLACK
STEERING WHEEL - 37X9
HORN PAD ------- 19X9





OK, my broadcast sheet says:
STEERING WHEEL - 67X9
HORN PAD ------- 66X9

So does the horn pad mean the horn buttons or the wheel center?
Posted By: charger440sixpak

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/08/08 07:10 PM

It is the coding for the black 4025 GX9 steering wheel with 3-spoke horn buttons and the black 4037 GX9 3-spoke cover with spoke switch buttons. There would be a center wood-grain cover (3575017) which snaps into place and would have "DODGE" on it.


Probably the most common configuration on the 71 Charger based on my personal (limited) observations.
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/25/08 02:02 PM

This is the wheel you talk ?






but for the this one shouldn't be coded. How do you code the BASIC equipment ? then if no wheel code, no wheel existance ?

as far I know the basic/standart equippment is normally not coded meaning IT IS the basic one
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/25/08 02:12 PM

Very unique car pictured above....
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/25/08 02:20 PM

yeap... 4 speed ( 383 ) but plain jane... no radio, no dash woodgrain and plain steering wheel, BUT is WH23... as far I know all that stuff should it be from WL21
Posted By: charger440sixpak

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/25/08 03:11 PM

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OK, my broadcast sheet says:
STEERING WHEEL - 67X9
HORN PAD ------- 66X9

So does the horn pad mean the horn buttons or the wheel center?



It means this wheel.
I have exactly the same coding on my broadcast sheet and this is the steering wheel in my R/T.

Attached picture 4709289-s81-wheel.jpg
Posted By: MoparMarq

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/25/08 06:25 PM

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Driving with cerebellum in neutral not recommeded.



Spelling with cerebellum in neutral also not recommended. (Unless your nose is congested...)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/25/08 07:27 PM

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OK, my broadcast sheet says:
STEERING WHEEL - 67X9
HORN PAD ------- 66X9

So does the horn pad mean the horn buttons or the wheel center?



It means this wheel.
I have exactly the same coding on my broadcast sheet and this is the steering wheel in my R/T.



Me as well on 2 71 Superbee sheets.
Posted By: In_The_Pink

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/25/08 09:24 PM

I want to say this was in a green '71 Charger...

Posted By: charger440sixpak

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/26/08 03:30 PM

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Driving with cerebellum in neutral not recommeded.



Spelling with cerebellum in neutral also not recommended. (Unless your nose is congested...)




I DO recommend you consult your Webster's dictionary...
Posted By: mopars4ever

Re: 1971 Charger "S81" steering wheel question - 09/26/08 05:46 PM

I have a NOS woodgrain center piece if you need one. Mike
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