Your car's not correct!

Thanks guys! Hey Challenger1, at this same car show, different guy, told me the exact same thing "454 Hemi" I knew this one was nuts. I wasn't too sure about the wood grain insert tho. This is my first E body. Have had B bodies up until now! Mine has the cowl "black-out" also. I wasn't sure about when this was done also. Take care! Jeff

can you post a pic of your 70 with the cowl black out?

i wouldnt care if it correct or not...at least your in a mopar and not in a ferd or chebby

the 454Hemi is a chebby thing

he ment to say..i had a 454 but could not afford a Hemi

there is a reason a chebby is cheap you know...

I am in thhe hobby for fun.I like thing to look nice and not after a 100 point show car.
I am doing a C body so nobody really knows much about them or seem to care..
People like it for what it is--not it should be or could be.That is gratification in itself.

I had a super low miles 71 Duster.I got scrutinized everytime I showed it."When you pulling out the slant six and put in a 340??"
It had 28,900 miles on it and I had to change the tires,plug wires,heater core,radiator and muffler.
I got crap for getting rid of the original parts that were NFG.
I needed a reliable car,not a "survivor"
After three years of persistent offers,I sold the car to a guy who did a V8 4 speed swap.
I had a 70 Challenger R/T 383/727.
I was changing the thermostat in the driveway when a guy pulled up with his 16 year old son and whipped out his cheque book.He was arrogant and thought he knew everything about my car.To scare him off,I fibbed that that the 383 kept overheating and may need headgaskets.
Much happier with a C body.Instead of a know-it-all tell me about my car,I am educating others who are intrigued by my car.

Once I had a Challenger that I had at a show. I went to get something to eat, came back and there is a guy standing over my engine bay. In his hand he has the caps from my Mopar reproduction battery. He says "you know, the vent holes in these caps are wrong, you should drill four concentric holes around the center hole to have these be more accurate." My only comment that I could come up with as my mouth hung wide open..."who are you and why are you taking my car apart?"

I don't go to shows. Too many experts who don't even own a car in the show. My last 69 Road Runner came with a 383 auto. I swapped it out for 440+6 4 speed. Used to have the guys all the time tell me thats not a six barrel car. My reply was allways looks like 3 carbs to me. I'm not that big on all the numbers matching stuff as long as my reg matches my vin. A cool car is a cool car. My Road Runner was fun to crack out sideways and rip the tires off. A real A12 is worth to much to really beat and have fun with. I love em but for now i'd rather have a car thats fun to drive the way it was meant to drive.

Hey Guys! My car is definitely not a 100 point show car, but I am pretty meticulous when it comes to a restoration! I've done Super Chevy winners, Good Guy winners etc, but I'm still learning when it comes to E Body correctness. I'm not sure if the guy was trying to put my car down or not. He said he just wanted to "point out that you car should have wood grain". I wasn't sure what to say! I knew I'd find out the answer on Moparts! I've sure learned alot and appreciate it! I'm going to try and post a couple of pix. So here goes! Take care! Jeff

Here is an A12 Runner Clone I did. I always heard that it "aint a real one"! Oh well!!

Here is after restoration. Wiper motor by Jules, BTW! Jeff

Ignore the "self proclaimed experts", if you're happy with the car that's all that matters.

Here are some pics of the cowl blackout on T/A Challenger that hadn't been touch prior to then.
I took the pics to document the blackout on a T/A.




Link to all the pics.
http://s471.photobucket.com/albums/rr72/SNK-EYZ/T%20A%20%20Challenger%20Documentation/

I'm curious to see what these non-woodgrain doors look like. I can't recall ever seeing any! Does it have a standard or rallye dash?

Yeah, I had a similar experance when I first took a car to a show. I was new, and I had just bought my Bee. Its a rough car but mostly origonal. A guy from a "expert" car club (the Mopar Knights) comes up to me, looks at my car says only one thing to me, "Your aircleaner is the wrong shade of orange, It should be Hemi Orange". Then walks away. No, hi, neat car anything. Not knowing I almost stripped it and repainted it. Luckly I didnt. Its got the origonal paint and sticker on it. That kinda turned me off to shows for awhile.......

It is funny how some people "know it all" On my 67gtx I have a very different interior then all the other 67's I have seen. Now mind you, my car is by no means stock, but the interior has been the same since the early 90's.I have been told "is that a satellite interior?" NO I guess its not.. My door panels, seat package tray etc... all match and are dated I believe june 66.But nobody knows what they are from, lol.. Kevin

You have a nice looking car, but you really need to get that exhaust leak fixed. lol.

Sleddinfool, '67 GTX & Satellite used the same interior; in '68-'70 Sport Satellite & GTX same deal.
When I was still subjecting my cars to car shows, I used to ask those "experts" where their car was.

Most of the time I get that group of older guys walk up to me and say what kind of motor is that and I tell them my standard answer its a Black and Decker Aquarium pump motor ( Love the movie Hot Rod)they stand there and stare at me for a second and I say its a 383/496....Matt

There are two sides to this arguement.
Some will say that YOU brought your car to the show to be judged and that you should be prepared to take the compliments with the criticism.
Others will say that "Its YOUR car, build it how you want."
I am of the belief that both arguements have some merit. I have a 70 Charger that has factory stuff mixed with some modern wheels. I like the look, and I am rarely surprised when I hear someone say ..."Nice car, but it would look better with STOCK rally wheels." Thats THEIR opinion. My response depends on my mood at the time. Most often, I tell them that they can buy a Charger and build it their way, then I will tell them how I would have built it. They usually just walk away.

We've all had our share of car show "experts". First local car show of the year, I pulled in, got out, and was getting my chairs from the trunk.

Now, my car is a '70 Challenger, G-code car, original 318 still under the hood but it's dressed up like an R/T. PLUS, it's got 340 emblems on the hood.

So, this guy walks up, looks at the VIN, and walks away shaking his head and mumbling something. Didn't say anything to me, no hello, nothing. I wanted to tell him that if he needed to look at the VIN to tell it wasn't an original R/T (no 340 R/T's in '70) then he's the idiot. But, I just let it slide...as always.

Bottom line, if you like your car, that's all that matters. Most folks are appreciative of the fact that these cars have avoided the crusher for 40+ years.

M

Way too many "experts" at the shows, I've often thought about making some "Originality Expert" stickers and handing them out. Also, "My friend had one of those... only his was a Hemi"

I had Galen Govier say that the rear quarter reflector housing should be painted to match the color of the tail stripe. I have a first day of production car and mine is NOT painted. I think they look better painted to match the stripe, but some of these so called experts think it's all or nothing in their thinking.

The Torque wrench theory.
Individuality, Websters Dictionary : total character peculiar to and distinguishing
An individual from others.
Just my opinion!
This is what we did in the 50’s 60’ etc. with our rides. My new 69 RR fresh off showroom floor 1st stop Firestone for some Keystones and tires.
Everybody personalized their rides, to me that’s what it’s all about. I don’t want one like yours. I want you to look and mine and say he did something different. Nice ride.
My 66 Charger I’ve had 35 yrs. Has Been in 4 different configurations basic stock, mild build, Pro hot rod to now street strip car.We have a car show every Mon. here in Ga. At Summit Racing. Usually around 200-300 cars. Show is themed to different makes etc. but everyone can show up and win prizes. Lots of fun lots of experts.
So, what I do is carry a 3 foot Snap-on torque wrench in the trunk with a huge 1 ¼
Socket attached. Person walks up starts chatting nice person we talk brag on each others stuff make a new friend and continue on. Butthead walks up starts downing my stuff
I ask you had your stuff torqued lately. Huh! I go get torque wrench and ask, you want your head TORQUED!
Almost had to use it this past week. My current setup is a Max Wedge 2x4 with
(Thunder rolls lightning flashes OMG) dual NOS. you would have thought I was the devil to this 1 guy.(real cool dude about 25 he didn’t even know what a Maxie was.
He thought it was a Hemi. Didn’t even own a hot rod looking to buy he said.)
Bottom line enjoy the sport, look if you don’t like it keep your mouth shut.
There are many thousands of us out here that are always glad to help. Keep the sport alive
We all know how much time money etc our rides eat up.
With all the things that go on don’t let some ### ruin it for you.
Just my opinion because this seems to come up all the time.
Kermit with the Maxie and NOS

None of mine are going to get that kind of response, but I'd ask the guy if he was handing out signed copies...
"of what?"
Of your book detailing all the exact factory build details....

I made sure I don't get those kind of questions with my 68 charger. Painless wiring kit, HEI distributer, toyota internally regulated alt. Aftermarket classic air A/C, Aluminium radiator, 69 charger front fenders, All black engine compartment with green exterior, All black grill. 69 charger bumper gaurds. This list goes on....

I drive my car around town 4-5 times a week. I'm not seeking attention, but I get a lot of smiles and pleasant small talk without the guff I've encountered at Mopar car shows...

Drive 'em and enjoy 'em for what they are.

On a similar note, I took my '74 satellite to a show back in '89. This was a slant six stripper and I was collecting parts to put in a 400 with an 8 3/4 upgrade. Anyway, I listed it as a "work in progress". Some dipweed asks me " Ooh, how many of these did they produce?" Give me a break.

I've heard a million times!!!!! they didn't put sunroof's in those cars

Do you think the Chevy and Ford guys have these same problems?

my 66 dart conv.is so incorrect...but for what it is it looks good and I like it