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Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG?

Posted By: SGTFURY62

Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 01:33 AM

Curious about quality of the autozone tie rod ends? Just priced a full set; inner/outers and sleeves for the plymouth...duralast = $87.94

MOOG = over $200

I know that MOOGS are top notch but are they really worth the cost over the others?
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 01:39 AM

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I know that MOOGS are top notch but are they really worth the cost over the others?




Yes, buy Moog. Shop around, there's better places than Auto zone to buy Moog.
Posted By: chache876

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 02:01 AM

Go to autozone and ask to see one of them and note the part numbers on the part and the actual part # of the item. Do some research on the web (google) on the numbers so you can find out who actually made the part as they are just rebranded by autozone. Could be a moog part in a duralast box.
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 02:06 AM

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Go to autozone and ask to see one of them and note the part numbers on the part and the actual part # of the item. Do some research on the web (google) on the numbers so you can find out who actually made the part as they are just rebranded by autozone. Could be a moog part in a duralast box.




For 87.00 a set they aren't going to be Moog. They are Chinese junk that you will be replacing in about 2 months.

MB
Posted By: MAVERICKSHEMI

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 02:47 AM

Duralast on my Hemi lasted 3300 miles. They are just injected plastic around the Stem. NAPA has a Hvy duty spring behind the stem then injected plastic. I was told Moog is built like NAPA
Posted By: chache876

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 02:51 AM

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Go to autozone and ask to see one of them and note the part numbers on the part and the actual part # of the item. Do some research on the web (google) on the numbers so you can find out who actually made the part as they are just rebranded by autozone. Could be a moog part in a duralast box.




For 87.00 a set they aren't going to be Moog. They are Chinese junk that you will be replacing in about 2 months.

MB




You'd be very surprised. When you buy Moog, or any other brand name part, you are also paying a premium price for a box that has their name on it.

I work for an auto parts mfg and its common practice for companies to have a generic brand for 1/2 price which are literally the same part as the name brand that comes off the same assembly line, just a different box.

I also deal with autozone on a frequent basis and actually have a list around here somewhere they gave me that has all the mfgs for their duralast brand.

I can't remember off hand who makes their tie rods so I can't attest to their quality but its probably a company like Moog or TRW. All I'm saying is that its worth the time to do a little research on them and find out what your buying. Could save ya a ton of $$$
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 02:53 AM

I bought my moog stuff from rockauto.com I don't remember exactly what I paid for tie rod ends, but it's wasn't 200 bucks.
Posted By: SGTFURY62

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 03:25 AM

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I bought my moog stuff from rockauto.com I don't remember exactly what I paid for tie rod ends, but it's wasn't 200 bucks.




Just checked the rock...$209.34 wo tax or shipping. Thats for inners/outers and sleeves.

Probably better to just go with the best and not worry about it.
Posted By: wingman

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 03:49 AM

"When you buy Moog, or any other brand name part, you are also paying a premium price for a box that has their name on it."

Kinda like Callahan brake pads.
Posted By: chache876

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 04:37 AM

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"When you buy Moog, or any other brand name part, you are also paying a premium price for a box that has their name on it."

Kinda like Callahan brake pads.




That movie popped in my head as I wrote that

I was going to use it as an example but wasn't sure if anybody would get it lol
Posted By: therocks

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 12:28 PM

See if you can find TRW.Its just as good as Moog and cheaper.I used some on my 65 and on my Durango and on a lot of cars at work.Some of the Dura Last is decent stuff also as we used it at work.Just check the quality before you buy.Rocky
Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 01:20 PM

When I rebuilt my front suspension, I used all MOOG. It's not something I want to do again for a long time. Everything together was just over $400, but I feel it was money well spent.
Jim
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/23/10 01:31 PM

duralast is a box name
when i worked there
we had perfic circle a dana co,
which is a federal mogal co
we had moog for a short time ,
they came (moog co. ) came in the stores
repackaged the perfic circle brand and some of the 1 year valugraft into moog boxes
this goes on all the time
doesnt matter if its carquest, advance/ autozone
napa, doesnt matter
as for what and who makes the part,
its a federal mogal co,
as for anyones 1 year stuff ,, it is the best stuff from china hsha
as for quality of moog vs trw same
they just did a box over trw rebox in all stores
moog came in took trw out put in moog boxes
just like ac delco
ac delco makes nothin it is a box name only
98 chevy trucks car are a ngk plug
kinda like gas several pumps 1 gas
Posted By: volaredon

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/26/10 02:52 AM

I just redid my 83 D 250's front end; found a PAIR of very old stock MOOG inners for $9.99/PAIR and a pair of outers for the same $9.99; so $20. for 4 new TRE's.... even though I only "needed" a driver's outer TRE you can bet I put all 4 on there; as well as a new MOOG idler arm... yup $9.99. even the cardboard the boxes were made from was heavier than "today's Moog"....
but I would definitely take "today's MOOG" over McQuay Norris or Duralast (whoever makes them....) otherwise TRW used to be decent as did Dana/Spicer..... I just got 4 new Spicer balljoints for the kid's ramcharger....again via Ebay.... Made in Canada; dead equiv to Made in USA IMHO.... I despise all this Made in China BS; were our cars made there? then why should we be forced to buy parts for them, that were made there? REFUSE "MADE IN CHINA"
Posted By: SGTFURY62

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/27/10 01:41 AM

Well ended up buying the duralasts. I asked the clerk who makes their suspension parts, namely these tie rods and he said Moog makes them for AZ in their boxes. I compared the originals and the new ones...new ones look heftier than original 63 stuff and with a lifetime warranty, I'll take the chance considering the car only gets driven maybe 500 miles a year they should last as long as originals. Thanks for all the input.
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/27/10 02:15 AM

all the same
except 1 year
trw , perfic circle, duralast,mcquay/norris
moog all federal/mogal
dana/spicer,
one big happy family
enjoy as this will not get better
Posted By: volaredon

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/31/10 03:07 PM

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all the same
except 1 year
trw , perfic circle, duralast,mcquay/norris
moog all federal/mogal
dana/spicer,
one big happy family
enjoy as this will not get better




thats why I've been scouting FeeBay for NOS Moog, TRW and Dana/Spicer stuff;
though I did recently wind up buying more "recent stock" Dana/Spicer balljoints for the kid's RC and wow did they seem "loose" when I was playing with them before I installed them; but in the truck, all snugged up they feel OK (so far) Being the front axle is a Dana 44 these are supposed to be exactly wat was in there when the RC rolled off the line; but as I pressed them into the knuckles? I turned them over and saw "T R W" stamped into the joints. they are "Made in Canada" as opposed to Taiwan China etc so I'm hopin they can stand up to a 17 year old in his "1st truck". you know how kids treat vehicles!
Posted By: moper

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/31/10 08:50 PM

Moog is better stuff. I've got over 10yrs parts experience. Jobber, retail, and dealership parts. Much of what's offered now is cheap junk. I'm in the middle of an e-body complete suspension restoration... The idler arm purchased from AZ by the owner 3 years ago (I installed with a steering box repair) now has 3/8" travel up and down... Less tha 1500 miles and he is a cruise night guy. Drives it lightly and never too far. The Moog (from Car Quest) is visually heavier and looks like the factory. However, you have to ask for real Moog. Everyone has the lower price line stuff to compete with the retailers like AZ. All of it is ceahp junk. Rubber is the same as the Indian made engine mounts that crack and tear in a year. For hard parts, I'll only use real Moog. For soft parts they get urethane except for the lower control arm bushings which are Moog. IIRC the LCA, tie rods, sleeves, upper and lower ball joints came to $322 with the tax on it. KYB shocks, a new boot for the pitman arm, and idler arm was another $147.
Posted By: BigTerry

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/31/10 09:29 PM

everything made in china if you ask me! I bought a fi in a box that say made in usa, part say made in china!!
Posted By: meepmeep70

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 05/31/10 10:01 PM

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When I rebuilt my front suspension, I used all MOOG. It's not something I want to do again for a long time. Everything together was just over $400, but I feel it was money well spent.
Jim


buy the best you'll never be dissappointed,the 2 areas where i don't mess around is steering and brakes,
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 06/01/10 12:10 AM

as time goes by the real moog will disapear
only a couple ways to know now
if it is a 'true'moog part in that box
as federal mogal moves parts ,trw /dana /
spicer/etc you will never know
once you figure that all is happy family
it doesnt matter
any part can fail and can fail at anytime
i will say for the most part the return of defected out parts is usaually misinstalled buy the installer,
or mis diagnose by the tech invovled !!
as for china junk
most of youre parts are allready made
there they are reassembled here most
as for carquest having diffrent 'moog' parts
than autozone o-boys,
all of us carry 3 lines of chassie part
i have worke zone ,and advance,
zone doesnt carry the name moog part
advance does ,o-boys carrie 2 lines of 'moog'
products,,
all carry a 1 year stuff
everyones 1 year stuff is the best you can get from china sometimes there real good sometimes
just not!
advance carries both the moog brand and trw brands
like i said moog trw are the same and alot of times the parts are crossdocked to one another!
sometimes youre homeworks needs homework
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: Quality of Duralast tie rod ends versus MOOG? - 06/01/10 12:13 AM

i totally agree with you ,,
and i try to sell that to the customers in front of me
but then real life sets in and the they say well i'm only going to keep that car for couple more months so i'll take them 1 year pads because they are 13.99 hahahah
the 2 weeks later man them brakes squeelll
hahahhaah
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