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Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor?

Posted By: stan1970

Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/08/08 01:17 AM

Hey Guys,

I need to do a Heater Core bypass in my 1970 Super Bee 440 motor. As the heater hoses appear to be two sizes on this one (5/8" and 1/2"), do I just loop a small piece of the 5/8" over to the 1/2" fitting? (or is it vice-versa?).

Second question -- If I decide to bypass the heater permnanently by removing the 2 hose outlet fittings and replacing with plugs -- How hard is it to get off those fittings? I suspect they have been in there for years -- do these come out easily or are there tricks to doing this?

Thanks a lot for any tips on this!

--Stan

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Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/08/08 01:26 AM

Just cut the hoses off and put plugs in them for the time being or go to NAPA and get caps for fittings.
Posted By: In_The_Pink

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/08/08 01:31 AM

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post4532991
Posted By: stan1970

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/08/08 02:09 AM


Is it Ok to plug the hoses like that (doesn't coolant actively run through there and would backup due to pressure?). What kind of plugs did you use for this?

I can't recall whether when the heater hoses are removed if the fitting that is exposed is threaded or not? If so, then I guess a cap would work. If not, the whole fitting needs to come out right?

Thanks a lot guys for the help!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/08/08 02:17 AM

IF you waant it to look like a butcher job either:
A. loop the larger heater hose
B. cut and cap them

If you want to do it right:
heat the ends with a torch clamp on the vise grips and unscrew.
then get the proper plugs for a nice clean install.
Posted By: stan1970

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/08/08 02:56 AM

Quote:

IF you waant it to look like a butcher job either:
A. loop the larger heater hose
B. cut and cap them

If you want to do it right:
heat the ends with a torch clamp on the vise grips and unscrew.
then get the proper plugs for a nice clean install.





Thanks Stupify.

What are the heating of the ends for? Also, this may be a dumb question .. but what is a torch clamp? I do have vise-grips....so at least I'm covered there

As for getting the proper plugs -- anyone know the right size I need to look for for a '70 440 motor?

Thanks everyone! I continue to learn great things everyday on this board!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/08/08 03:04 AM

my grammar sucks
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/08/08 03:07 AM

You could just install a valve in one of the hoses--that will give you the option to shut if off when ever you want, or re-activate the heater. Thats what I did on mine, but I live in Washington where a heater is useful from time to time.
Posted By: stan1970

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/08/08 01:23 PM

Hi Pacnorthcuda -

Can you tell me more about the valve you put in? In which hose (and where) did you install it? Do you have a picture of this setup? I would like to try this approach.

Thanks a lot!

--Stan
Posted By: stan1970

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/09/08 01:32 AM

Hi Guys,

Anyone out there have an example of a Heater Hose Control Valve they are using to be able to selectively allow or disallow coolant to reach the heater core?

Is this generally done at the manifold or in-line on the heater hoses themselves?

Thanks a lot!

-Stan
Posted By: sthemi

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/09/08 04:15 AM

The nipples are a huge pain to remove. A hand held torch will help some, vise grips and something solid inside the tube to prevent it from being crushed from the vise grips will usually do it.
The easier way is so use a new piece of 5/8 hose and clamp it tight with a worm clamp.
Yes you can squeeze it down on the 1/2 nipple and it will not leak..
Posted By: In_The_Pink

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/09/08 04:32 AM

Quote:

Hi Guys,

Anyone out there have an example of a Heater Hose Control Valve they are using to be able to selectively allow or disallow coolant to reach the heater core?

Is this generally done at the manifold or in-line on the heater hoses themselves?

Thanks a lot!

-Stan




It's usually mounted inline on the 5/8" heater hose and is either vacuum or cable controlled. Opened when you want hot coolant flowing through the heater core and closed when you don't.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/09/08 05:08 AM

Heater control valves were factory parts for a lot of vehicles. I think my 1976 Dodge truck still had a cable controlled flow valve in the heater hose. I bet you can get that part over the counter at any Dodge dealer.
Posted By: stan1970

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/09/08 04:58 PM

Thanks a lot guys!

On a 1970 Big Block motor, is it the 5/8" hose (one closest to the front of the motor) that flows "TO" the heater core and the 1/2" hose (one mounted behind the 5/8 as you are standing at the front of the car) that flows "FROM" the heater core?

Also, anyone know why Mopar would use two different sized hoses for this setup?

Thanks again!!
Posted By: stan1970

Re: Heater Bypass for 1970 440 Motor? - 07/09/08 11:57 PM

Anyone? Thanks !!
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