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Westinghouse Headlamp Question

Posted By: robl72

Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/26/24 01:32 PM

HI,

Several years ago you there was an old post on Westinghouse Headlamps and I was hoping to get an opinion on the 4001 and 4002 Westinghouse bulbs I just bough that came in a green Westinghouse box.

My questions is are the ones I have considered wide or narrow flute. If you compare mine to the narrow and wide flute pics that were in the previous post, mine kind of look like a cross between the two. This may be a trivial question but I am trying to make sure I have the correct ones for my vehicle, a 70 Charger.

Also do you know if there is any difference between the Westinghouse bulbs in the all Blue box vs the ones that came in the all green box

I have attached a link to the previous post as well as pics of my bulbs.

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Rob L.


https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2413144/3.html


https://www.ebay.com/itm/386171650875


https://www.ebay.com/itm/355369500762
Posted By: topside

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/26/24 04:20 PM

The Ebay photo of the 4002 looks about right, and when I click on the Moparts thread you referenced, RealWing's photo shows the era-correct fluting on the right.

Apparently there were some B-bodies that got other-brand headlamps, but all but one of my original '68-'70 cars came with GE bulbs.
Posted By: robl72

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/26/24 09:21 PM

Yes I was curious about the GE vs Westinghouse bulbs. I'm almost positive I had an original Westinghouse on it when I first got it years ago. That is why I bought Westinghouse again. was just unsure if I got the right ones for the car. Still curious as to what the difference is between the Green Box Westinghouse and the Blue Box Westinghouse I have seen.

What one car of yours had the Westinghouse on it?
Posted By: topside

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/27/24 12:34 AM

None with Westinghouse; one had TS low beams, but although it's super-low mileage (17,000), there's no reason for them to have been replaced.
Never wrecked or repaired, and I doubt not worn out. St Louis car with 2/12/69 SPD.
No record of replacement either, and high beams are GE.
I bought a pair of low-beam GEs for when my OCD demands changing them out, but I'll keep the TS bulbs in the tote with its original AG filter, brake shoes, and washer bottle.
Posted By: markz528

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/27/24 01:06 AM

I've got a bunch of new Westinghouse wide flute bulbs in various boxes I believe. Let me see if I can find them. My car probably came with GE bulbs but I wasn't paying those prices. When I bought these Westinghouse they were dirt cheap.
Posted By: TJP

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/27/24 02:44 AM

Do be aware the assembly lines would switch suppliers if the usual were not available. So while debating what is correct and not, there can be variables involved. Especially so when it comes to items like bulbs. wink beer
Posted By: robl72

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/27/24 03:17 AM

I have heard that before that some cars 67-70s had TS bulbs.
Posted By: robl72

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/27/24 11:38 PM

Hi Mark, Let me know if you find any of the Westinghouse 4001 bulbs in the Green box like the one I posted. I am actually one short and would take one if your willing to part with it.

Thank you!
Posted By: TJP

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/28/24 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by robl72
I have heard that before that some cars 67-70s had TS bulbs.

It was commonplace with all the MFR's I believe due to a clause in the union contract that said if the line was shut down due to a parts shortage the workers went home with full pay eek . Run out of the correct color seatbelts? Black or another color would be substituted wink beer
Posted By: therocks

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/28/24 06:11 PM

I have some OE dated either 65 or 66 bulbs in the garage somewhere.Came from a 66 charger we sold.A while back people wanted date coded stuff Shoud have sold them then
Posted By: TJP

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/29/24 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by therocks
I have some OE dated either 65 or 66 bulbs in the garage somewhere.Came from a 66 charger we sold.A while back people wanted date coded stuff Shoud have sold them then


Had customer several years back with a 63 Corvette. He bought 4 date coded T-3's off the bay. Paid a good price for them. While doing some other work he asked that I put them in. I did. had to call him and say well we have 1 good hi beam and 1 good low beam. He angrily said the seller said they were good. I responded with, technically they were, for about 5 seconds, then got real BRIGHT and poof.
the filaments were good but the atmospheric seal wasn't so POOF! 😲👎🤣
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/31/24 02:50 AM

I have a set from my '65 Coronet. Not sure if they are original or not but they were on the car when I bought it 40 years ago. I don't think I ever changed them. I swapped over to Halogens at some point and just kept these with the adjusters in a box. Probably time for me to sell them.

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Posted By: moparx

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/31/24 04:07 PM

i have some tunsol, westing house, and ge bulbs on the shelf i'll never use.
how and where is the date code ?
one bulb says : dot 73. i'm guessing this may have been a replacement.
beer
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/31/24 04:18 PM

date coded is ink stamped on the back of the bulb. be very careful, it rubs off easily.
Posted By: moparx

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/31/24 04:27 PM

i'll need to clean the dust, dirt, and whatever else is on those bulbs.
what is recommended to do this ?
i know the ink is very fragile.
beer
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/31/24 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
i'll need to clean the dust, dirt, and whatever else is on those bulbs.
what is recommended to do this ?
i know the ink is very fragile.
beer


I may not be the best one to answer this. I dont understand the date code head light desires. You cant see the date code once in the car
Posted By: topside

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 01/31/24 05:24 PM

Soap & water, or glass cleaner, cleans them up without removing the date codes.
I'd be a player for a pair of wide-flute GE low beams...
Posted By: therocks

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 02/02/24 11:34 AM

gtx6970 its the same as people wanting date coded ring and pinions for the rear ends.Have to wonder what judge pulls the rear to make sure its correct date.Headlights though have different fluting IIRC the factory used multiple vendors for them
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: Westinghouse Headlamp Question - 02/02/24 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by therocks
gtx6970 its the same as people wanting date coded ring and pinions for the rear ends.Have to wonder what judge pulls the rear to make sure its correct date.Headlights though have different fluting IIRC the factory used multiple vendors for them


I can understand the fluting difference. But date codes? Not so much


Ps, I asked this same question last year and it was overwelming GE was the primary lamps.

I have a stash of NOS GE lamps for my car ( 1966 Plymouth ) But Im not concerned about the flute design. Just that the 2 match and are all glass bulbs was my only prerequisite.
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