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timing light

Posted By: terzmo

timing light - 07/17/23 12:48 PM

Point ignition vs electronic conversion . Is the same type timing light used for either or is another type for electronic conversion ? If so, anyone have a current model/part number? Thanks to all in advance. Thanks MOPARTS
Posted By: DaveRS23

Re: timing light - 07/17/23 02:41 PM

Yes, same light for either. The real choice is whether you use an inductive vs an on-plug type light. Again, either will work but the inductive is usually more convenient if not a bit more finicky. Some lights struggle with multi strike ignitions.

I have had good luck looking on Marketplace or Craigslist for used ones. $20 or less usually. I have a couple of the old chrome Craftman inductives that have served me well. Bought both used. Only need one, but the last one was still in it's box, looking new for $10. Couldn't say no even though I didn't need it.
Posted By: bobby66

Re: timing light - 07/17/23 03:16 PM



Been using the old chrome Craftsman lights since the late 70's or so. So far, so good. up
Posted By: wingman

Re: timing light - 07/17/23 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by bobby66


Been using the old chrome Craftsman lights since the late 70's or so. So far, so good. up


Same. Non-dial back style--I just use a timing tape.

Even used it with my old MSD 6AL box on my last car and it did not seem to mind..
Posted By: terzmo

Re: timing light - 07/17/23 04:04 PM

Thanks for all the info
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: timing light - 07/17/23 06:35 PM

I have two of the older, bought in the late 1970 or early 1980s Craftsman dial back timing lights and one battery power Flaming river timing light., that one is easer to use and brighter up scope twocents
I do remove the battery after using it and put them back in when I need to use it again, I don't want the battery going bad and corroding the inside of it as sit is in my race trailer year round and it gets really cold here in the winter wrench up
Posted By: 340SIX

Re: timing light - 07/17/23 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by bobby66


Been using the old chrome Craftsman lights since the late 70's or so. S5o far, so good. up

Same here. But also bought a,Sun Engine Tune Up box set
It is light, vacume, a line tgat screws into spark plug holes to test compression and that gauge so yiu can also compress to swap spring's or seals. And of coarse the Main bix that shows dwell, RPM ect. And a few other thing's ijjn there All like new
Posted By: TJP

Re: timing light - 07/18/23 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by terzmo
Point ignition vs electronic conversion . Is the same type timing light used for either or is another type for electronic conversion ? If so, anyone have a current model/part number? Thanks to all in advance. Thanks MOPARTS


Have a FERRET digital looking for a home, Little use. PM for pics etc. if interested beer
Posted By: terzmo

Re: timing light - 07/18/23 11:35 AM

ok..side question. Back in the 60's I did tune ups and when setting the timing on certain vehicles the vacum advance was plugged at the distributor or plugged at the carb for setup. I have mechanical advance and the vacum cannister on My distributor is plugged and no vacum to it at all. Am I good to go to check timing as is ? Thanks in advance to all. Thanks..Moparts
Posted By: DaveRS23

Re: timing light - 07/18/23 01:33 PM

Yes. You do not want the vacuum advance to influence the initial setting. Just make sure that the carb does not have a resulting vacuum leak that could raise the idle.
Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: timing light - 07/18/23 01:37 PM

Typically what you are setting is base timing. There should be no vacuum advance due to vacuum (plug line) and no mechanical advance due to high engine speed (maintain specified idle speed). If you are setting total timing or something other than base, that is another conversation.
Posted By: GY3

Re: timing light - 07/18/23 02:25 PM

Rev the engine until all the mechanical advance is in (vacuum advance disconnected). The rpm it is all in will be determined by the springs you have in the distributor. Put Mr. Gasket #925B in to get a quick advance.

Set the total timing there. Let the base timing fall where it will. I would start with 34-35*.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: timing light - 07/18/23 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Couldn't say no even though I didn't need it.
that's the story of my life!
Posted By: moparx

Re: timing light - 07/18/23 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by GY3
Rev the engine until all the mechanical advance is in (vacuum advance disconnected). The rpm it is all in will be determined by the springs you have in the distributor. Put Mr. Gasket #925B in to get a quick advance.

Set the total timing there. Let the base timing fall where it will. I would start with 34-35*.




isn't the mr. gasket spring set for GM distributors ?
beer
Posted By: GY3

Re: timing light - 07/18/23 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by GY3
Rev the engine until all the mechanical advance is in (vacuum advance disconnected). The rpm it is all in will be determined by the springs you have in the distributor. Put Mr. Gasket #925B in to get a quick advance.

Set the total timing there. Let the base timing fall where it will. I would start with 34-35*.




isn't the mr. gasket spring set for GM distributors ?
beer


#925B is two springs for the OEM Mopar distributors.
Posted By: moparx

Re: timing light - 07/19/23 03:49 PM

ok, thanks for the clarification.
i thought, at one time anyway, there was a mr. gasket spring kit recommended that was for GM distributors.
not that i can be "cornfused" easily............. laugh2
beer
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: timing light - 07/19/23 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
ok, thanks for the clarification.
i thought, at one time anyway, there was a mr. gasket spring kit recommended that was for GM distributors.
not that i can be "cornfused" easily............. laugh2
beer
They were available for GM type distributors the last time I checked. shruggy
I bought 5 or 6 of the 95B kits to have them as needed, I do weld up the advance slots on the old type stock Mopar distributors and adjust the new type so I can have 12 to 16 degrees initial advance at a low idle and 34 to 36 degrees total advance above 2000 RPM up
Posted By: moparx

Re: timing light - 07/21/23 04:34 PM

i have welded the slots as well Cab, and i have a couple of those limiting plates here, but i have never tried those yet.
a lot of performance can be gained by fiddling with the distributor weights and vacuum advance !
well worth the time trying different combinations, and a distributor machine will help, but not really necessary if one does not have access to one.
beer
Posted By: BloFish

Re: timing light - 07/21/23 10:26 PM

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Posted By: 5thAve

Re: timing light - 07/22/23 01:16 PM

For some reason in the past few years I've had a couple timing lights come my way, still no digital ones or dial back ones tho and some are the older style that go in line with the plug wire.

Originally Posted by moparx
i have welded the slots as well Cab, and i have a couple of those limiting plates here, but i have never tried those yet.
a lot of performance can be gained by fiddling with the distributor weights and vacuum advance !
well worth the time trying different combinations, and a distributor machine will help, but not really necessary if one does not have access to one.
beer


That's one nice thing about the mallory built mopar performance distributors, that you can you don't have to weld slots or change parts other then the springs.
Posted By: TJP

Re: timing light - 07/22/23 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by 5thAve
For some reason in the past few years I've had a couple timing lights come my way, still no digital ones or dial back ones tho and some are the older style that go in line with the plug wire.

Originally Posted by moparx
i have welded the slots as well Cab, and i have a couple of those limiting plates here, but i have never tried those yet.
a lot of performance can be gained by fiddling with the distributor weights and vacuum advance !
well worth the time trying different combinations, and a distributor machine will help, but not really necessary if one does not have access to one.
beer


That's one nice thing about the mallory built mopar performance distributors, that you can you don't have to weld slots or change parts other then the springs.


Definitely agree on the Mallory adjustable part up
If you're wanting a digital light I have an extra FERRET digital dial back or forward timing light looking for a home, Has had little use. PM for pics etc. if interested beer
Posted By: 340SIX

Re: timing light - 07/23/23 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by GY3
Rev the engine until all the mechanical advance is in (vacuum advance disconnected). The rpm it is all in will be determined by the springs you have in the distributor. Put Mr. Gasket #925B in to get a quick advance.

Set the total timing there. Let the base timing fall where it will. I would start with 34-35*.




isn't the mr. gasket spring set for GM distributors ?
beer


#925B is two springs for the OEM Mopar distributors.

On the street i always used one light one heavy spring with non prem gas worked fine.
Not sure what comes in that set.
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