UPPER CONTROL ARM BUSHING COLLAR / SLEAVE

Does anyone know where these can be purchased ?

Roger Gibson and Frank Badelson sell them .

I usually buy a few extra Sets when I order them , I also install them on Vehicles that do not have them as stock , as a Reinforcement / Improvement .

I just went through Gibson's catalog and couldn't find them listed. Where did you find them?

Gibson Catalog

Call Frank in Virginia. Just keep trying him, sometimes he is very busy

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Left a message and a email this morning

Frank had 2 left
Thanks for the help guys

a side note concerning the upper control bushing[s], in particular MOOG brand kit #K408. [4pcs for both arms]
in the last couple of weeks, i have purchased 3 of these kits, and EACH one was 0.015 OVERSIZE than the stock bushings, and these kits were not the "problem solver" line.
the bushing needed for the arms is 1.170 outside diameter, and the ones in these kits were 1.185 outside diameter.
just ONE MORE quality issue MOOG seems to not care about, and another one i can add to the list of bad MOOG parts going back 15-20 years i have personally experienced.
i finally found a kit of the same number that was "old stock", and surprise ! it measured the correct 1.170 outside diameter !
the only reason i went back down this rabbit hole, was the guy insisted on MOOG bushings, although i tried my best to persuade him to another brand.
bringing this to others attention so you can avoid the frustration...................
rant over.........

moog = junk for a long time now , they get their parts from an Asian source that supplies more than just moog .

Okay then, does anyone have the dimensions of the sleeves, ID, OD, thickness?

From an installed factory original:

Inside diameter - interference fit over bushing diameter 1.168", maybe 1.167".

Outside diameter - 1.381".

Length - 5/8"

Could be easily made

Excellent!!! Thanks so much. Mr. Lathe and I can go to work.

I guess my question is why? Control arm isn't going to move once installed.

The UCA “tube” goes oval during hard maneuvers with out the sleeve.

i made a bunch of these sleeves/collars [whatever you want to call them] many years ago. very simple to make, .002 press fit, and the diameter and length are not critical dimensions as there is lots of room around them after installation. just get a chunk of 1 3/8" [1.375] diameter mild steel bar stock and start cutting. bore the inside diameter to size for a few inches depth, then cut off your needed amount of collars. rinse and repeat if you need more. no need to turn the od if you start with 1 3/8" stock.

Be sure to measure your own bushing OD before boring the sleeve ID. Bushing ODs could vary.

Agree with above Post . 2 Sizes of Control Arm Bushings Being Made today . 1 Size for ORIGINAL Upper Arms , and Another Size for the CHINESE Re-Pop Arms . Moog uses for Example Part # 123 for Original Arms , and Part # 123B for the Chinese Arms . Frank B sent me a bag of those Sleeves to do 6 Vehicles for $100 . I know My local Machine Shops get $100 per Hour . So unless You have access to a lathe , or a Machinist Buddy , Just call Frank B ! Merry Christmas Moparts !