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Ever put an NP435 in a car?

Posted By: 73DAD

Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/15/22 08:07 PM

My truck has one and as the truck deteriorates I often wonder what it would be like to pluck the drivetrain for a car. There are plenty of unloved rusty b-body rollers in my area, plenty of 50's Mopars too.

Has anyone ever seen or put an NP435 in a car?
Posted By: moparx

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/15/22 08:48 PM

if that transmission is the one with the "granny" 1st gear, i think it would require tunnel modifications because it's so big.
the granny gear would only be useful in super slow traffic, and that's a BIG maybe............
beer
Posted By: MoonshineMattK

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/15/22 09:03 PM

If you are not making much power a used T5 might be the cheapest easiest way to a 5spd OD
Posted By: GarageDodge

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/15/22 10:20 PM

I am sure you could make fit,but thats a huge trans meant for a truck,would need a lot of fabrication.
Posted By: Sniper

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/15/22 10:38 PM

If i were to consider the worst possible choice for a 4 speed in a car the NP435 would be in the top 2.

It's a great truck 4 speed and that is where it's virtues end.
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/15/22 10:54 PM

If you were simply using the drivetrain because you already have it, it would be great for an old truck or a 50's era car (full frame) that has lots of floor pan/trans tunnel room.

Anything else, the trans is a poor choice.
Posted By: Sniper

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/15/22 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
If you were simply using the drivetrain because you already have it, it would be great for an old truck or a 50's era car (full frame) that has lots of floor pan/trans tunnel room.

Anything else, the trans is a poor choice.


It is not a matter of room, it is a matter of poor gear ratios, really wide spreads and clunky shifting. Not to mention is weights a ton.
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/15/22 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
If you were simply using the drivetrain because you already have it, it would be great for an old truck or a 50's era car (full frame) that has lots of floor pan/trans tunnel room.

Anything else, the trans is a poor choice.


It is not a matter of room, it is a matter of poor gear ratios, really wide spreads and clunky shifting. Not to mention is weights a ton.


It worked in a truck before so exactly why wouldn't it still work in a an older truck now????? laugh2

No one said it was the best choice, it's a case of using what they already have and putting it to use.

Why is that so hard to comprehend?????
Posted By: Sniper

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/16/22 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
If you were simply using the drivetrain because you already have it, it would be great for an old truck or a 50's era car (full frame) that has lots of floor pan/trans tunnel room.

Anything else, the trans is a poor choice.


It is not a matter of room, it is a matter of poor gear ratios, really wide spreads and clunky shifting. Not to mention is weights a ton.


It worked in a truck before so exactly why wouldn't it still work in a an older truck now????? laugh2

No one said it was the best choice, it's a case of using what they already have and putting it to use.

Why is that so hard to comprehend?????


What's hard to comprehend, for you, is that I specified a CAR.
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/16/22 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
If you were simply using the drivetrain because you already have it, it would be great for an old truck or a 50's era car (full frame) that has lots of floor pan/trans tunnel room.

Anything else, the trans is a poor choice.


It is not a matter of room, it is a matter of poor gear ratios, really wide spreads and clunky shifting. Not to mention is weights a ton.


It worked in a truck before so exactly why wouldn't it still work in a an older truck now????? laugh2

No one said it was the best choice, it's a case of using what they already have and putting it to use.

Why is that so hard to comprehend?????


What's hard to comprehend, for you, is that I specified a CAR.


What's hard for you to comprehend is that it would work fine in a 50's or older car just fine.

Is it ideal, no and that has been stated but you're so busy trying to be a d*ck that you can't comprehend that people don't always do things the way that YOU think they should.

It's just like most of your other posts, there's your way of doing things and no others should be considered or allowed.

What put that giant chip on your shoulder???? laugh2

Someone is trying to use what they already have, why is that so bad?????????????
Not everyone builds high dollar perfect cars.
Last thing I knew, that's what hot rodding was all about, build something and have fun doing it.

I think that the fun went out of it for you a long time ago.
Posted By: 73DAD

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/16/22 02:34 PM

Yikes

So... per the original question, I guess that's a 'no'. Nobody has seen or put one in a car.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/16/22 09:11 PM

Never seen one in a car but you could have some ground clearance issues because that 435 has more hanging down low than an 833. Probably hang lower that your headers twocents

Gus beer
Posted By: Sniper

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/16/22 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ


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What's hard for you to comprehend is that it would work fine in a 50's or older car just fine.


Owning a 51 Plymouth, you are wrong.

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Is it ideal, no and that has been stated but you're so busy trying to be a d*ck that you can't comprehend that people don't always do things the way that YOU think they should.


Right, comprehension issues for you, once again. All I did was lay put why the NP465 is a bad choice.

It's just like most of your other posts, there's your way of doing things and no others should be considered or allowed.

What put that giant chip on your shoulder???? laugh2

Someone is trying to use what they already have, why is that so bad?????????????
Not everyone builds high dollar perfect cars.
Last thing I knew, that's what hot rodding was all about, build something and have fun doing it.

I think that the fun went out of it for you a long time ago.


A bad idea is a bad idea, only a fool encourages it and a friend points out the issues. Take from that what you will.
Posted By: Hugh Jorgan

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/17/22 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by 73DAD
Yikes

So... per the original question, I guess that's a 'no'. Nobody has seen or put one in a car.



No. The 435 has a yoke on the tail end requiring a carrier bearing between the 2 driveshafts. Might be a trick in a car. twocents
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/17/22 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ


Quote
What's hard for you to comprehend is that it would work fine in a 50's or older car just fine.


Owning a 51 Plymouth, you are wrong.

Quote
Is it ideal, no and that has been stated but you're so busy trying to be a d*ck that you can't comprehend that people don't always do things the way that YOU think they should.


Right, comprehension issues for you, once again. All I did was lay put why the NP465 is a bad choice.

It's just like most of your other posts, there's your way of doing things and no others should be considered or allowed.

What put that giant chip on your shoulder???? laugh2

Someone is trying to use what they already have, why is that so bad?????????????
Not everyone builds high dollar perfect cars.
Last thing I knew, that's what hot rodding was all about, build something and have fun doing it.

I think that the fun went out of it for you a long time ago.


A bad idea is a bad idea, only a fool encourages it and a friend points out the issues. Take from that what you will.


A fool is someone who thinks only his way is the right and only way to do things.

A friend??? Someone who acts like a d*ck in most of his posts isn't a actually friend to anyone.
You just think that your opinion is more important than anyone elses.

You're to blinded by yourself and your opinions to see that people can build cars with parts that aren't necessarily the best choice but are doing it because of cost or that they simply already have the parts.

The OP was looking for a use for the drivetrain and everyone agrees that it's not the choice for a 60's and newer Mopar but it will work in a truck and could work but not be ideal in older stuff.

Just because YOU think that you're right doesn't actually make it so.

I ask again, What put that giant chip on your shoulder???? laugh2

You should actually read and comprehend your posts with the eye and perspective of someone other than yourself.

Take from that what you will.

Are you sure you're not a BMW driver?
They all seem to be d*cks all of the time. whistling
Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/17/22 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan
Originally Posted by 73DAD
Yikes

So... per the original question, I guess that's a 'no'. Nobody has seen or put one in a car.



No. The 435 has a yoke on the tail end requiring a carrier bearing between the 2 driveshafts. Might be a trick in a car. twocents


He could use a 4wd truck driveshaft that has a slip yoke.
Posted By: Sniper

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/17/22 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ


Quote
What's hard for you to comprehend is that it would work fine in a 50's or older car just fine.


Owning a 51 Plymouth, you are wrong.

Quote
Is it ideal, no and that has been stated but you're so busy trying to be a d*ck that you can't comprehend that people don't always do things the way that YOU think they should.


Right, comprehension issues for you, once again. All I did was lay put why the NP465 is a bad choice.

It's just like most of your other posts, there's your way of doing things and no others should be considered or allowed.

What put that giant chip on your shoulder???? laugh2

Someone is trying to use what they already have, why is that so bad?????????????
Not everyone builds high dollar perfect cars.
Last thing I knew, that's what hot rodding was all about, build something and have fun doing it.

I think that the fun went out of it for you a long time ago.


A bad idea is a bad idea, only a fool encourages it and a friend points out the issues. Take from that what you will.


A fool is someone who thinks only his way is the right and only way to do things.

A friend??? Someone who acts like a d*ck in most of his posts isn't a actually friend to anyone.
You just think that your opinion is more important than anyone elses.

You're to blinded by yourself and your opinions to see that people can build cars with parts that aren't necessarily the best choice but are doing it because of cost or that they simply already have the parts.

The OP was looking for a use for the drivetrain and everyone agrees that it's not the choice for a 60's and newer Mopar but it will work in a truck and could work but not be ideal in older stuff.

Just because YOU think that you're right doesn't actually make it so.

I ask again, What put that giant chip on your shoulder???? laugh2

You should actually read and comprehend your posts with the eye and perspective of someone other than yourself.

Take from that what you will.

Are you sure you're not a BMW driver?
They all seem to be d*cks all of the time. whistling



You are the only one saying to do it.

The fool looks back at you from your mirror and frankly I don't care what a fool thinks.
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/17/22 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper


You are the only one saying to do it.

The fool looks back at you from your mirror and frankly I don't care what a fool thinks.


You obviously have serious reading comprehension problems.

I NEVER said that he should do it.

I said it was possible, but you're so much of a self center "I'm always right D*CK" that you see only what you want to see.

A d*ck that has problems with reading comprehension describes you perfectly.

I ask again, What put that giant chip on your shoulder???? laugh2

I don't expect that you'll answer that, especially since you think that the problem is always with everyone else.

Maybe you should do some self reflection, but I don't see that happening either.
Posted By: 58pwrwgn

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/18/22 03:23 AM

Doable yes. The things going against it are. 1) it shape. The top is wide and square. A lot of tunnel fabrication and on a torsion bar car, cross member fabrication. Its deep. You may find yourself dragging it on the ground. 2) Gears. First isn't synchronized on a 435. Most seem to be granny gear. (6.68). Good launch for the first 30 feet. 3.34, 1.66, 1 might work. It would be better if you have the close ratio version with the 4.56 first. Starting in 1969 dodge started making the np445. Close ratio with synchronized first. But the case is bigger. 3) 68 and older used a much larger truck bellhousing vs the car like 69 and later. 4) It does have a yoke on the rear, but may be able the modify your truck one.
Doable yes. If it's a big block truck and you want to go thought the work. ????. If it's a small block. The pick a part places by me, would sell you a 5sp, clutch and flywheel out of a Dakota for $200.
Posted By: Twostick

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/19/22 12:13 AM

It's just over 19 inches tall. Maybe OK in an E-body mounted on a Ramcharger frame...

Kevin
Posted By: 73DAD

Re: Ever put an NP435 in a car? - 12/19/22 01:35 PM

Thanks for the help and insight guys.
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