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Carrier Runout

Posted By: super451b

Carrier Runout - 07/20/22 01:28 AM

Im setting up a 9.25 for a friend. Its for a 2018 Ram 1500. What would you consider to be excessive runout on the carrier ? (No Gear installed ) The carrier in question is a new truetrac locker.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/20/22 03:03 AM

I would look at the factory service manual and follow the specs. it provide.
I think the 8 3/4 uses .0030 maximum run out.
I found out by accident that heating the ring gear up to or over 130F and then install it on the carrier really helps making it seat flush eliminating any ring gear to pinion tooth backlash variances up :: scope:
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/20/22 03:48 AM

Couple thou, tops. I don't even like to see that.

We deburr everything before putting it together. Stuff has been cheapened, Processes streamlined. Edges and bolt holes will have burrs.
Posted By: super451b

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/20/22 04:53 AM

I'm checking the carrier without the ring gear attached and I'm getting .003 runout. I was leaning toward having him send it back. Didnt want to go through attaching the gear and trying to get correct backlash if it was going to be a waste of time.

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Posted By: TJP

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/20/22 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by super451b
I'm checking the carrier without the ring gear attached and I'm getting .003 runout. I was leaning toward having him send it back. Didnt want to go through attaching the gear and trying to get correct backlash if it was going to be a waste of time.


Might want to call the MFR. and ask what their spec is wink
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/20/22 06:27 PM

Backlash will effect the pattern some, not as much as pinion depth. Always a good idea to check BL at multiple spots.
Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/20/22 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by super451b
I'm checking the carrier without the ring gear attached and I'm getting .003 runout. I was leaning toward having him send it back. Didnt want to go through attaching the gear and trying to get correct backlash if it was going to be a waste of time.


I assume you have the correct side bearing preload and the caps torqued?
Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/20/22 07:02 PM

I had a 69 fsm sitting here and the 8 1/4 and 9 3/4 both said maximum run out .006. The 9 1/4 was not born yet but I would assume it would be similar.
Posted By: 1969ronnie

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/20/22 07:47 PM

wave The 1970 FSM shows .006 Max . Put it together , and then check it . I've had carrier runout before , and after Torquing the massive Ring Gear on , to pull Specs down to the Low side .. shruggy Try it , can't hurt . drive Ronnie
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/21/22 12:30 AM

Chuck it in the lathe and true it up..
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/21/22 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Chuck it in the lathe and true it up..


I have a local guy "true-up" all the Power-Loc 8 3/4 carriers for my customers. For some reason most of them are out by .010 -.015 shruggy Maybe lots of gear swaps.

Gus beer
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/21/22 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by fourgearsavoy
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Chuck it in the lathe and true it up..


I have a local guy "true-up" all the Power-Loc 8 3/4 carriers for my customers. For some reason most of them are out by .010 -.015 shruggy Maybe lots of gear swaps.

Gus beer


I’ve worked on many, I don’t believe 10-15 thousands for a second. They would bind up big time at normal backlash…….hogwash.
Posted By: super451b

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/21/22 06:55 AM

After bolting on the ring gear the run out came down to .002 . The backlash only varied by .002 as well . I'm happy with that.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/21/22 04:32 PM

Are you SURE you want to run those gears that tight on the back lash?
I wouldn't tsk
What do the instruction call for on the minimum? I wouldn't run the back lash any tighter than what the manufacturer calls for at room temps. twocents
As already pointed out check the back lash in several different locations, I try to check them 90 degrees apart scope up wrench
Posted By: super451b

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/22/22 03:30 AM

.002 is the variance. Actual backlash is .007 - .009
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Carrier Runout - 07/22/22 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by super451b
.002 is the variance. Actual backlash is .007 - .009
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