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pulley install (too much interference?) UPDATE

Posted By: BDW

pulley install (too much interference?) UPDATE - 02/10/22 10:03 PM

I have this pulley I'm trying to install. It's a Holley power steering kit for a 3G motor.
First attempt was a total failure, wouldn't go on, and then it got cocked and gouged the powder coat on the pulley.
I've now measured the power steering shaft (steel) and it's 0.668" and the aluminum pulley is 0.660".
Is this normal, or is the powder coat too thick? It's circular, so that's 0.004" around the complete diameter to overcome.
Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 01:45 AM

What are you using to install the pulley? Pictures help?
Posted By: BDW

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 01:59 AM

Using a HF pulley install tool, watched a bunch of YouTube videos, seems pretty straightforward.
But this thing will just not seat, wondering if 0.008" is too much to overcome?
Posted By: Chargerfan68

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 02:38 AM

.008” is way too much interference fit. Just for reference, an ATI super damper (harmonic bal) specs at .0008” to crank. In my opinion, there should not be any powdercoat on the inside pulley to shaft surface.
Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 03:05 AM

Call Holley. They may want a tighter fit being an aluminum pulley. Steel would be more like .002. What HF tool are you using?
Posted By: BDW

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 03:14 AM

I’m going to have to hit the inside of the pulley with some sandpaper to clean up the gouge.
Just don’t want to take off too much.
Here’s the tool, seems simple enough, thread in the stud, then crank down the nut to pull the pump onto the pulley.

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Posted By: BDW

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 03:18 AM

Here’s where the shaft gouged off the powered coating.
But only on 1 side, as it went on crooked.

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Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 03:34 AM

Lightly clean the hole. Put a light lube on the shaft and pulley. Start pulling it on and tap it to center it with a rubber mallet as you pull it on. It should center itself.
Posted By: wingman

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Chargerfan68
.008” is way too much interference fit. Just for reference, an ATI super damper (harmonic bal) specs at .0008” to crank. In my opinion, there should not be any powdercoat on the inside pulley to shaft surface.


iagree
Posted By: moparx

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by wingman
Originally Posted by Chargerfan68
.008” is way too much interference fit. Just for reference, an ATI super damper (harmonic bal) specs at .0008” to crank. In my opinion, there should not be any powdercoat on the inside pulley to shaft surface.


iagree



i agree as well ! use anti-seize as a lube when you pull this on.
beer
Posted By: BDW

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/11/22 06:45 PM

Thx for the replies, I did put some lithium grease on shaft and pulley on initial attempt.
I’ll try to carefully clean up the pulley bore with some 600 grit and give it another go........
Posted By: BDW

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/13/22 01:59 PM

Cleaned off most of the powder coating with a Dremel tool and gave it another go.
Inside diameter interference is now ~0.004”
It was a mutha to pull on, but it’s done.
Appreciate the help



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Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) UPDATE - 02/13/22 02:42 PM

You're all done & good but I was thinking of freezing the pump overnight in the freezer & heating the pulley in the oven.
Posted By: Chargerfan68

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) UPDATE - 02/13/22 04:10 PM

Glad you got it done! Nice!
Posted By: moparx

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) UPDATE - 02/13/22 04:42 PM

up up
looks nice as well.
beer
Posted By: TJP

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/14/22 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by BDW
Cleaned off most of the powder coating with a Dremel tool and gave it another go.
Inside diameter interference is now ~0.004”
It was a mutha to pull on, but it’s done.
Appreciate the help



up Any bets on where this was made ??? whistling stirthepot biggrin
Posted By: poorboy

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/14/22 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by TJP
Originally Posted by BDW
Cleaned off most of the powder coating with a Dremel tool and gave it another go.
Inside diameter interference is now ~0.004”
It was a mutha to pull on, but it’s done.
Appreciate the help



up Any bets on where this was made ??? whistling stirthepot biggrin


At this point in history, I'm not sure where something was made makes much difference. Quality control just doesn't exist many places any more.
Posted By: 1969ronnie

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/14/22 05:11 AM

up .004 is Plenty Tight , usually .005 of Rust from a pulley or snowblow something that has had corrosion/ galling results in 5 TONS of EXTRA force on removal or drive force ! . drive snowblow Ronnie snowblow
Posted By: Tie Rod Garage

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/14/22 03:37 PM

that finish looks more like anodizing, not powder coating. Normally threaded holes and press fit holes get masked when powder coated. It's typically not necessary when anodizing.
Posted By: BDW

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/14/22 11:58 PM

It was definitely made in China.
It was on back order from Holley for 4 months. Other than the pulley issue, looks to be very well made.
No idea if it's powder coating or anodized, but that area definitely should have been taped off.
I didn't get all of it off and it was a chore to pull that pulley on.
I hope the pump never goes bad, I'm thinking its not coming back off.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: pulley install (too much interference?) - 02/15/22 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Tie Rod Garage
that finish looks more like anodizing, not powder coating. Normally threaded holes and press fit holes get masked when powder coated. It's typically not necessary when anodizing.


iagree that would be anodized , hopefully it spins concentric still after taking a dremel to it .
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