Rejuvenating trailer tires ?

..... I know that 303 has the market basically covered on this but I talked to a bud up in meeeeechigan who suggested.....

A lite coat of ........... DIESEL FUEL !

Any thoughts ?

Buy new before you kill someone with old tires. You know this.

340TQ ... I’m not talking about DRY ROTTED tires ..,

Rejuvenate ... Plastic Fantastic fanatic ... not REvive !

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Linky no worky .... Mr TQ !

Then click the 2nd one there is a pic.
Earl Based Product that soaks in. So keep it away from leaking plastic fuel bowls it beez flammables. But beez gooder.

If the trailer tires are more than 4 years old replace them.
It's just a question of when they will fail at that point.

Hay box carz .... forgive the LA guy ... he’s been on Bourbon St drinking mojitos !

My 4 cents ...... are you now RICH .... Rich ..... promoting excessive tire sales ?

Now don’t diss the Plaskett Fantastic.... there’s BIG BUX in the potential of polishing parts of that supernatural carb !

And yes I see that pic ... RESTORER ?

Same/same REJUVENATE ‘ ...

If you've seen the movie "Worlds Fastest Indian" you'll know that black shoe polish fills weather-checking nicely !!

I use tire covers on my car trailer and it seems to help some. Trailer tires seem to start cracking from day one. Rubber quality has went down hill for sure.

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Black shoe polish ..... you cRaZy canucks !

Don’t give that polishing pink any iDeAs !

mop4 .... rubber quality ?

Me thimks box carz started that HISself to sell mo tires !

I had some China made tires on my daily driver and they were cracking in less than a year. Seems to me rubber quality is a issue.

a "day or two" ago, it was common [around here anyway] to make your tires nice and black with brake fluid.
i wasn't really keen on that idea............

I simply don't like having to change out a blown out trailer tire on the side of the Interstate highway when people are flying by at 80+ mph.

At the 4 year point they start separating and failing.

I guess I figure my life is worth more than $300 to $400 for tires every 4 years.
That's not even taking into account what could happen if it causes a serious accident.
You're in the wrong hobby if you think spending $75 a year is too much to be safe out on the road.

Covering your tires so the sun doesn't hit them is one of the best things you can do.
The sun does decay tires.

There really no actual natural rubber in tires anymore, they're made from petroleum by-products these days.

The suns UV rays destroy them, you know just like it does to plastic.
Treating them with something that protects against UV rays will help.

I use a pair of old steel exterior house doors leaned up against my trailer to keep the sun off the tires when it's parked, which is more than it's actually used.

If they are "trailer" tires and are over 3 yrs. old replace them now, not along the road when they fail due to old age
If I could buy "light truck 8 or 10 ply tires " I would buy them instead of those dang "trailer" tires
I can't count or remember how many trailer tires I've had fail on the road
Did I mention I HATE "trailer" tires

I bought a 410 Dana 70 in Pennsylvania some years back for my Disco motor homey project that had NYLON tires on it from the mid 70s...... they gave old new meaning.... way more than that old from oreEgone !

Those tires were in PERFECT CONDITION ! Absolutely no UV damage anywhere

But as that ole tart can confirm .... those yestertech tires give ruff riding new meaning !

Roger dodger... they build these tires these days to self destruct

My #2 son works in the tire shop in one of the local coal mines. His take on this? There are no trailer tires worth a [censored] available anywhere from anyone. Period.

Since when ? ...

Since right now.

Might have misunderstood Doc's question. He first mentioned this to me about four years ago when we were discussing tires for my flatbed car trailer. He never directly said this but he implied it had been longer.

I started having radial trailer tires blow out and have the top layer tread come off 30+ yrs. ago
The guy I bought my first enclosed car trailer (24 Ft. inside Braceo 10,000 LB GVRW) from had towed that trailer all over the U.S. chasing NHRA points and trying to set the SS/AA and SS/A records, he had gave up on getting good tires for it and had the cheapest 15 inch tires he could get when one of the trailer tires on it fail
He bought a 28 Ft. with 6200 Lb. axles with 16 inch rims and tires so they could haul a golf cart, no more tire problems on the trailer on the road

Was he using 16 inch LT or Trailer tires?

I can't answer that do to me not asking about which type came on it and if he had to replace any of them. he did say it had went a lot longer on 16 inch tires than the trailer I bought went on 15 inch tires
I bought a 34 Ft fifth wheel 3 slide out camping trailer years later and found out about 16 inch tires after wearing the original tires out due to the axles being built defective, they had way too much tow out Those axles where 8 lug with 12x3 inch brakes rated at 6000 Lbs.
I replaced them with 7000 Lbs. rated axles and reuse the same brakes and wheels from the same company that had made the original axles. I can't remember the name of that company now, but it wasn't Dexter.
One of the new axles had way too much tow out so I took it to a H.D. truck alignment shop and they straighten it out, what a cluster fruck that deal was
We used it twice and sold it due to not using it much

Trailer tires - they bring to mind a few stories of my own.

Back in 1984 when I went into business with my old partner hauling auto parts from the SW USA, we had a 45' fifth wheel trailer with triple 9,000# Dexter axles. He had always run bias ply trailer tires & we would cook at least one tire on a round trip out West - sometimes 2 or 3. The bias ply tires could not take the heat. I'd be following him & blue smoke would start rolling off the affected tire, then chunks of tread & belts, then the tire would just disintegrate & we'd be on the side of the highway either replacing with a spare, or we'd be jacking-up the axle & chaining it to the frame. Did that many times in 100* + weather. THEN we switched to radial Cooper trailer tires & never had another tire failure.

Fast forward to 3 summers ago on a busy Saturday - heading 230 miles away for our annual summer vacation on the lake pulling a 17' 6" bass boat. What could possibly happen on a short trip like that? How about 50 miles down the highway from home? Well, the boat we typically use one week out of the year & otherwise sits in our garage with new-looking regular car tires decides to shed a tire. As I'm driving along at 70, I start feeling a vibration for about 5 minutes then the RH trailer tire just comes apart in spectacular fashion. Wife is following along in the chase vehicle & we get over to the side of the highway without incident - luckily. I'd say there is a good chance Michigan drivers are the most uncourteous, worst drivers in the country, but we make it from the fast lane to the RH shoulder.

So a few dilemmas here. The spare on the trailer is one of the original Tracker tires - the boat is a 2000. There is clearly a 360* cracked area plainly visible around where the tread & sidewall transition. What are the odds this tire will stay together for more than a few miles? Well, since we have no choice at this point on the spare goes & we drive 10 more miles into Lansing. My daughter is on the phone making calls to tire shops & nobody has a 15" tire. We finally find a Wal Mart store that has several 15" tires in stock so we go to them. The guys at the shop realize it is for our boat trailer & won't sell me a CAR tire for a TRAILER! Now the boat & trailer maybe weighs 3,000 pounds - perhaps less. I've been pulling the boat around for probably 10 years on the car tires. OK, so one blows today - nothing lasts forever. They 'splain to me that they can't sell me a car tire for a trailer - you know I could sue Wal Mart for billions if they do. I might as well be a million miles from home now, even though I'm only 60 miles away. So now we have NO choice - we have to drive 170 miles on the VERY questionable spare, or go back home & regroup Sunday. So me being the rebel, I say F-it & we keep heading toward our destination. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?

Well, somehow by the grace of God, we make it. Sunday I visit the Ludington Wal Mart & we look at tire options. I ended-up ordering in two 8-ply Carlisle TRAILER TIRES. Nobody in town had any 15" trailer tires on the shelf. Once again - might as well have been on the moon. The Carlisles came in Wed. got them mounted up. *They look like very good, bulletproof tires! But who knows? So, how many years should I go before replacing them? I REALLY don't want to go through the side-of-the-highway exercise again!

when buying tires from walmart, i always cash-n-carry, then mount and balance here.
unless you have the EXACT vehicle the tire you request is for, they won't mount it for you.
imagine buying say, a 165-80R for the front of your race car that is on the trailer. i think trying that, they would poop their pants !
as was said, you could sue wally for BAZILLIONS if something happened !

INTERESTING spin guyz ..., but how about that DIESEL ?

My Parker all steel deck open car haller came with LT Tires in 205/75/15 2 3500 axles with brakes. So thats what I put back on LT

How old is your trailer? What model year was it built in?
My current Pace Shadow 10,000 GVW was built in 1999, I bought if from the original owner around 2004 and I have had to put several different sets of tires on it
I carry 3 spares (not new tires, good used ones stored in the trailer) now and replace them as soon as I can after the ones on the trailer go bad
I've weighed this trailer loaded more than once on the road at the state commercial truck scales to see if I was overloading it causing the tire issues, the most I've seen it weigh was 8660 Lbs. on the trailer axles and adding 500 Lbs. onto the truck rear axle and taking 300 Lbs. off the front axle . That was with my old pump gas Duster in it with spare tires and tools and 25 gallons of gas in plastic fuel jugs
The Braceo trailer was noticeably heavier than this one is.

You might as well rejuvenate old condoms to. Junk is junk there is no such thing as rejuvenated tires. Pony up or keep it off the road.

How do we know that Doc isn't already doing that?

Doc I'm just throwing this out here and I don't think there is any way to easily do this with tires yet alone find a container large enough to submerge a tire in it too.......as I said just throwing it out there................oh does anyone know where I can find a five gallon bottle of "wintergreed oil"



MikeR

Found some, actually a lot of sources for wintergreen oil and now I think I'm going to get some and see what it will do with the hood to air cleaner seal on my Air Grabber on my '69 GTX? It's kind of smashed and hardening and not sealing very well so I know I can find a container like a new plastic drain pan or similar low pan to soak it in and see what it will do?

Rubbing alcohol and wintergreen oil I'll let you know doc.

The curse of collecting old stuff!

Rubber is organic and needs constant use to keep it supple.

Every year my skin goes hard and inflamed, so out come the creams!

Don't forget, 'if its got boobs and tyres' its trouble as we say in England...

Is Condom the shortening of Condominium?

I am very confused with the language on here lol...

Happy Christmas to one and ALL in Moparland.

Last trip out before I got Covid I blew 5 trailer tires, yes 5! 24' enclosed with 205-75-15, two were only two months old, one was brand new spare, the others just used spares. I had a 64 T-Bird convertible with a ton of extra parts, so it was right at the brink of overloaded, obviously was overloaded with those tires, would still have been marginal with 225-75-15 tires. I do keep used tires for spares but try and buy new ones everytime one blows out. When it is 10:00 on a Sunday in the middle of nowhere you do what you can to get where you need to be. There is no such thing as "rejuvenating" tires...

If Doc only knew that straining used motor oil through a dryer sheet makes it brand new again!

me thinks DoC has his Asian GiRLfEiNdS doing that for him..........

Do a trailer's wheels/tires need an alignment like cars and trucks and who would do that?

Depends on how many potholes/curbs you hit. I have another trailer with a bent axle that needs replaced. Springs/shackles can wear out but as long as the axles are straight and the parts are good there is no reason for an alignment.

How old the are the tires?

This morning we woke up.to a flat on the car. Almost everyone here is getting or needs a new roof so we have nails all over.
We have road hazard so went to get it fixed.
Since I was there looked at trailer tires. Was told only ones they had or could get were Carlisle and stock was 2 grades of Greenball. Think it was 6 and 8 ply or maybe it was 8 or 10 ply.
Guy said none returned from blow outs unless old or hit something
I had the feeling he was not truthful as they looked like cheap China entry level.

Oh my gooooness ! .... lots of peeps and .... BUT WHERE is the A to my Q about diesel ?

I’ll just consider the source on some - or actually most - that ur snowed or ICED IN ...

Merry Xmas... fellow moooofarters !

No on the Die Sell.
Get some of the pimp juice I posted.
Soaks in well and is not a high shine product.
You can add and add it but please stop puttin it on before YOU Win Best Jerri Curl Tire at the next car show.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/tires-wheels/16505-diesel-softens-rubber.html


All you have to do to soften rubber (especially vehicle tires) is to let them soak up some diesel fuel. I've seen the rear tank on big pickups spring leaks where the spare tire is hung under the tank and I can tell you it works. In a vehicle's case it ruins the tire but a controlled soak will obtain results such as softer stickier rubber.:-P The rubber will swell some as well, kind of like an allergic reaction. Try starting with an hour long soak on rc tires. Repeat as needed and make sure to wash and dry the tires in between soakings. I work for Goodyear so the disclaimer on this one is diesel ruins vehicle tires!!! Don't try this on real vehicles!

Why thx C14 ....

SOAKING the tires in D should be helpful fur that mountain top hermit

Buttttt ... it was suggested to me ... a light spray !

To RESTORE the tire like 340TQ alluded to

So your gunna sOAk the half that has nOt melted into the eARth??

Ok then, shall I say it?

You can buy rubber rejuvenater pretty much anywhere and it’s cheap!

Diesel is great for an old truck or tractor engine, but it’s horrible stuff indeed...

Yes I have been driving a diesel for ten years and it was brilliant!

But I will be going to hell for it and want no part in the devils fluids anymore...

Back to my Mopars and 10 to the gallon ( instead of 50 mpg in my French car )

French and Diesel, what was I thinking of?
The Devil moves in mysterious ways...

Here in Arizona you have to park East/west to avoid you sidewalls from being exposed. I hade a new pair of tire crack on me in just two months. They also recommend a tire dressing applied once a month during the high heat months.

Do you use tire covers? I put new tires on my trailer last year and bought covers that I keep on the tires when it's parked. The spare stays in the shop until the trailer is hooked up. My trailer sits outside so I park it on boards instead of gravel, it may not help but it makes me feel better.