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ACTIVATING a dead battery ?

Posted By: dOrk !

ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 12:22 AM

Your experiences using the JUMP START feature of a higher end battery charger ....

100 amp here ... if memory serves
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 12:34 AM

I use and follow the old way to revive a old dead battery, use a 1 to 4 amp charger and charge it for 3 or 4 days at the lowest amp rating you can use twocents scope up twocents
Same thing on low batteries that have set for 30 or more days, nice low amperage SLOW charge up
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 12:56 AM

cB .... this is the battery out of the older Airstream motor home....,

Not been driven for FOUR YEARS ......

I tried that activate for 15 minutes ... zip ‘

It’s now been on at the shop for over an hour .... 100 amps !

I’ll report back .....

I don’t think a trickle charger would do a thing !
Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 01:08 AM

Sometimes hooking another good battery to the dead one and then charge the both on a lower charge rate. May bring it back.
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 02:00 AM

Thx Mr gAsSeR ... I had that 100 amp ENGINE START on it for over an hour .. zip ZERO ....

Pulling the pos alligator clip off ... no spark at all.

Now TOUCHING that clip on the other ... it almost LIT UP the room....,

I guess it sitting for 3 plus years DID IT IN .....

Next battery will be hooked up to the solar panel on the roof....

AND I GUESS the bank of FOUR six volters are toast tooooo !

The perils of owning an RV .... but it’s cheaper than buying a class B ... tsk

Here’s the Airstream now ... Florida sunshine and that UV damage frown
Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 02:21 AM

Try what I told you. Doubling up with a good battery helps induce voltage into the dead battery. Try it. Wont cost you anything.
Posted By: Dcuda69

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 02:29 AM

What kind of battery are we talking about here? A sealed maintenance free or one you can pull caps or an AGM? Makes a difference. Tread carefully when dealing with dead batts. They can be sulfated, they can be shorted and they can be full of gas. Ever seen a battery go boom? I have and it's not pretty.
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 02:30 AM

Don’t have a good battery other than in the Charger ....

I’ve got to move the motor home tomorrow.....

New battery suggestions? Deep cycle marine RV style ?
Posted By: TJP

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dcuda69
What kind of battery are we talking about here? A sealed maintenance free or one you can pull caps or an AGM? Makes a difference. Tread carefully when dealing with dead batts. They can be sulfated, they can be shorted and they can be full of gas. Ever seen a battery go boom? I have and it's not pretty.


iagree And can make 130.00 or so seem cheap twocents
Posted By: larrymopar360

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 03:50 PM

A cheaper "home style" battery charger won't bring back a totally dead battery sometimes. A good industrial or mechanics battery charger can bring back a totally dead one sometimes when a auto parts store compact charger won't.
Posted By: second 70

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 04:00 PM

I've had luck with hooking it up to my charger and setting it to 6 volts instead of 12 overnight and then in morning setting it to 12 and it will charge normal.
Posted By: moparx

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 04:45 PM

a year or so ago, i got one of those pulse battery chargers that supposedly work on any type of battery.
i had a sears AGM battery that only had a .07v reading, as it had sat for many years.
i hooked up a regular lead acid battery with jumper cables [4ga] and let them hooked up for a couple days, then hooked up the pulse charger to both of them for quite a while.
i let them both set for a couple of days, then hooked up the pulse charger again. after a while, both checked at 12.2v.
i then charged the lead acid battery up. that didn't take long, then hooked the charger to the AGM battery. it was on for quite a while, but didn't get over 12.2v.
i then let it sit for a couple of days, and it [the AGM battery] registered 10.3. after a couple of weeks, it checked at 9.7. the last time i checked it, it was 5.62. that was a few days ago.
a guy could get it back to 12.2 easy enough [i think], but i'm guessing it wouldn't load test fer $hit. might be a good battery for testing circuits not requiring much load.
this is just my trial and error experiment. i don't know if it relates in any way to the topic at hand, but i found it interesting i could charge an almost completely zero volt battery back to 12 volts, and after many months of sitting around, it still has 5.62 volts registering.
beer
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 10:36 PM

Did it freeze? A dead battery will freeze and break connections between cells, toss it. Water in it? If just phosphated it can come back but takes a very long time.
Posted By: not_a_charger

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by TJP
Originally Posted by Dcuda69
What kind of battery are we talking about here? A sealed maintenance free or one you can pull caps or an AGM? Makes a difference. Tread carefully when dealing with dead batts. They can be sulfated, they can be shorted and they can be full of gas. Ever seen a battery go boom? I have and it's not pretty.


iagree And can make 130.00 or so seem cheap twocents


Cheap? Well, you've certainly come to the right thread. laugh2
Posted By: larrymopar360

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dcuda69
What kind of battery are we talking about here? A sealed maintenance free or one you can pull caps or an AGM? Makes a difference. Tread carefully when dealing with dead batts. They can be sulfated, they can be shorted and they can be full of gas. Ever seen a battery go boom? I have and it's not pretty.
Is this why I was taught at a very early age to pop the caps on a traditional lead acid battery when charging? Don't know that this would really prevent anything but my dad had me doing so early on to "let gasses escape"
Posted By: lancer493

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 08/31/21 11:42 PM

Doc, a 3-4+yr old battery in our climate is basically used up anyway. If its an AGM unit and fully discharged, I have had good results with the description NITROUSN gave of adding 2nd at least currently charged battery, paralleled with the first. For some reason AGM batteries are very difficult to recharge when completely discharged. Used to work law enforcement fleet. People were always forgeting to turn stuff off. Had to find a remedy and the 2nd battery deal was the ticket. Lead acid batteries were easier to recharge after total discharge. Major battery reps all agreed. They all suggested a recharging rate of max 14.5volts on AGM batteries also.Don't use a marine style battery for your engine battery except in a pinch(temporarily). They weren't designed for continual high amp draw of you starting system.Its Florida and its warm. Most any fully charged 12volt battery will crank up an RV to get it moved(unless it's a big diesel). There are signs for $35 car batteries all over the main roads in Fla. Drop one in and get your vehicle moved. Cheapest way out. Good luck Bill
Posted By: A12

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 09/01/21 12:03 AM

Doc, you might want to try a battery charger with a "desulfation" mode.

Posted By: 360view

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 09/01/21 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by dOc 3.0 !
cB .... this is the battery out of the older Airstream motor home....,

Not been driven for FOUR YEARS ......

I tried that activate for 15 minutes ... zip ‘

It’s now been on at the shop for over an hour .... 100 amps !

I’ll report back .....

I don’t think a trickle charger would do a thing !


We could give Doc the basic information on how to use a battery hydrometer to check specific gravity of each battery cell so as to find the bad cell, replace the acid in that bad cell with distilled water, then charge that battery for many hours with a pulse type desulfating charger,
OR
We could give Doc the basic information on how to go about locating the lost Hydrogen Bomb in the South Carolina coast swamps, how to remove it from the mud, and how to bore a hole in the bomb casing,
Question:
which would result in less fatalities?

Curious Minds Want to Know....
Posted By: moparx

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 09/01/21 03:35 PM

i will watch the second scenario on u-tube if DoC films it ! up boogie devil whistling haha no punkrocka penguin drool popcorn scope stirthepot cool biggrin
beer
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: ACTIVATING a dead battery ? - 09/01/21 04:57 PM

Whatabuncha wise guys ! .. and mopX!

Gotta go to the storage lot to put the FINAL TOUCHS on the motor homey....

CHECK OUT the Docs Diesel Dilemma!

I promise to address all here .. as soon as I get all the moving done !

I’ll ... BE BACK !
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