Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/12/2102:09 AM
Summit offers them in a better quality pan than the Mopar brands I use to buy and use I use the 1970/1971 440 3/8 pickup they sell also, Melling part # 63-S4
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/12/2111:22 AM
The last 70 440 hp pan I bought from Mancini came with the std pickup. I know what the correct one looks like. It’s straight with no bend in the middle, just one at the end. I called them on it and he said “ we’ve been selling this one for years with this pan “. When I told them I measured it and it was off the bottom of the pan too much and I had an nos pickup that fit like it should. His reply was, “ they stopped making that correct pickup years ago so this is all we got” . I was able to heat and bend it to get it in the correct place.
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/12/2101:06 PM
Originally Posted by fastmark
The last 70 440 hp pan I bought from Mancini came with the std pickup. I know what the correct one looks like. It’s straight with no bend in the middle, just one at the end. I called them on it and he said “ we’ve been selling this one for years with this pan “. When I told them I measured it and it was off the bottom of the pan too much and I had an nos pickup that fit like it should. His reply was, “ they stopped making that correct pickup years ago so this is all we got” . I was able to heat and bend it to get it in the correct place.
How far was the pickup they sent you off the pan bottom?
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/12/2106:34 PM
what is the height from the deepest part to the pan rail ? in other words, if the pan was upside down resting on the flange, how tall is the deepest part ? i don't have one of those here, so that is the reason for my [stupid] question. TIA as always for your answer !
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/12/2107:16 PM
Those front and rear baffles are critical for helping the oil stay in the sump during acceleration (rear baffle) and deceleration (front baffle). Pan would better yet with side baffles for cornering oil control.
To my knowledge of BB oil pans, ONLY the six-pack and HEMI engines received those front and rear baffles... no other engines got them (sadly... too bad MaMopar didn't make the baffles a standard design... would save plenty of engines from oil starvation and premature bearing failure during performance driving).
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/13/2101:07 AM
A donor 440 375 HP from a 71 New Yorker we have now in our 70 Charger had the best factory baffles I've seen; 360* baffling around the sump and a rear baffle to keep oil from the rear seal, absolutely factory.
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/13/2102:19 AM
Originally Posted by jlatessa
A donor 440 375 HP from a 71 New Yorker we have now in our 70 Charger had the best factory baffles I've seen; 360* baffling around the sump and a rear baffle to keep oil from the rear seal, absolutely factory.
Joe
I wonder what Ma Mopar was thinking - not that anyone road raced a 71 New Yorker or took them to the drag strip.
Must have been planning on kids taking pops car out to do donuts.
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/13/2102:21 PM
Originally Posted by moparx
what is the height from the deepest part to the pan rail ? in other words, if the pan was upside down resting on the flange, how tall is the deepest part ? i don't have one of those here, so that is the reason for my [stupid] question. TIA as always for your answer !
That is not a stupid question, that's a very relevant one. At a casual glance the pan from a 1965 426 wedge looks identical to the '66-'69 Hemi pan. But if you put them side by side, IIRC the Hemi pan is about 3/4" deeper.
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/13/2103:03 PM
I think the 66-67 Hemi pan is deeper than the 70, reason being I have two Hemi pickups and one is about 1” longer. I’ll have to look today but the pan I’m using is the one pictured because the shorter pickup fits it. I don’t want to buy a pan for the long one (unless I have too) but not sure how will fit yet. These are straight pickups too Yep same pan and uses the shorter pickup tube
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/15/2102:35 AM
Originally Posted by jlatessa
A donor 440 375 HP from a 71 New Yorker we have now in our 70 Charger had the best factory baffles I've seen; 360* baffling around the sump and a rear baffle to keep oil from the rear seal, absolutely factory.
Re: Is this a six pack oil pan? - 01/15/2111:12 AM
Originally Posted by Transman
Originally Posted by fastmark
The last 70 440 hp pan I bought from Mancini came with the std pickup. I know what the correct one looks like. It’s straight with no bend in the middle, just one at the end. I called them on it and he said “ we’ve been selling this one for years with this pan “. When I told them I measured it and it was off the bottom of the pan too much and I had an nos pickup that fit like it should. His reply was, “ they stopped making that correct pickup years ago so this is all we got” . I was able to heat and bend it to get it in the correct place.
How far was the pickup they sent you off the pan bottom?
I think it was about 3/4” off the bottom, if my memory serves me correctly. It was too high. I tried the correct pickup and it was about 1/16 off the bottom. The wrong one was easily bent in two places with heat and I got it 1/16 off and parallel to the bottom.