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8.25" weak points

Posted By: '70Satellite

8.25" weak points - 04/07/20 07:58 PM

So what are the weak points of the corporate axle? To be clear, I still run one if these in my B Body. It has a 3.55 Yukon geared Dura Grip posi in it. I will continue to run it after the 440 is put in. Will I blow it up? Sure. Maybe. At some point. I'm not doing hard launches. It's not a 4 speed car. It's a cruiser. But, eventually, it's on the list to upgrade. For right now, what is the weak point of this diff? I've read countless posts of guys drag racing these, I guess because they are light weight, and not snapping them every run. Some running them for years. So if the unit has a weak spot, what is it and what can be done about it, aside from replacing it with a 8.75" or Dana? Just trying to keep my mind going while sitting at home. Stupid plague.
Posted By: mopars4ever

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/07/20 08:24 PM

I have had good luck with the 8 1/4`s that i have but they have been small block (one 4 speed, one auto). I would think it would hold up for a while if you don`t beat on it. No way to really know. Honestly, what do you got to lose if it lets go?
Posted By: Dave_J

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/07/20 08:35 PM

The 8 1/4 is the same size carrier as the 8 3/8's in 1,000's of pickups and vans. They are stout enough for most low level hot rodding. So is the 7 1/4 within reason.

My buddy cracked a spider gear on his 8 3/8's but he was stupid doing burn outs by backing up and slamming it into drive or around corners all the time. .
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/07/20 08:43 PM

In terms of driving, the weak point (for any diff really) is heavy throttle in turns. If you are careful with the throttle in any cornering situation (the tighter the corner the gentler you should be) the diff has a chance of survival.
Posted By: Dcuda69

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/07/20 09:00 PM

I run one with 3:73 gears/factory sure grip in a 470" BB A-body 4 spd. Zero issues. BUT....it's a street car with street tires so those are the fuse. As long as it doesn't hook hard(it can't...lol) it'll live just fine. Different story as soon as you put sticky tires on it....then the fuse moves elsewhere. Good luck!! drive
Posted By: 5thAve

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/07/20 09:55 PM

I've never had problems with any of mine. 7 1/4 on the other hand....
Posted By: Sniper

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/07/20 11:03 PM

I ran one for about 100k miles behind a mild 360 and a 4 speed, SG, with decent meats (255's). Zero issues. Never tried one behind a big block though I did beat on mine when I felt like it.
Posted By: '70Satellite

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/08/20 12:05 AM

Well thanks all. That does make me feel better about the situation. Unfortunately, like a lot of other things, my budget for this car, specifically the 440 swap, is feeling the pinch of no work right now because of the current pandemic. The engine should be done by May 1st, but there's the tranny to do, the drive shaft, the cooling system, and whatever else I can't think of right now that just adds to the cost of a swap. But at least knowing that with good quality parts in my 8.25", and some common sense driving, I should be able to hold off on the rear end upgrade for a season or two of taking the wife for ice cream on a Sunday afternoon. Since it was brought up, I am running 255's(BFGTA's). Not that big or sticky. Also, hard acceleration on corners in this big girl isn't really something I'm comfortable with, lol.
Posted By: poorboy

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/08/20 01:58 AM

I had an 8 1/4 with 3:55 limited slip in my 1st street rod, a 35 Dodge 2 door sedan. It had a built small block with a built 904 trans. I beat that thing without mercy.
One day I really got traction and the 8 1/4 paid the price. I'm pretty sure those 2-3 years of previous abuse probably helped with the breakage, it certainly was not because of this one event. The failure was one broken and one bent carrier bearing retaining bolts, which allowed the carrier to shift and took teeth off of both the ring and the pinion gears.When you play as hard as I did back then, you break stuff.
I think your going to be OK, those BFGR tires can't get enough traction to hurt too many parts, just watch your rpms as the tires spin. Gene
Posted By: Sniper

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/08/20 02:11 AM

I almost wonder is the crush sleeve failed and took out the bolts you mentioned. Like the 489 case 8 3/4, the 8 1/4 uses a crush sleeve to maintain preload and, at least in the 489's case, those have been known to crush more allowing mayhem to ensue.
Posted By: chargincharles

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/08/20 02:14 AM

I'm going to agree. I have a 3.55 suregrip that's lived behind my 410 stroker for the last 4 years. It's a cruiser I don't beat on often.
If you just wanna cruise with the occasional burst then you should be just fine. If you plan on EVER going to the strip, upgrade now. Sell your existing set up and find a 8 3/4. Cost of finding and rebuilding now is going to be less than fixing the damage later.

Just my pennies
cc.
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: 8.25" weak points - 04/08/20 10:01 PM

Pretty sure they make the jack bolt cover for the 8-1/4 rear. Then shim the pinion instead of a crush sleeve. Final thing should be c-clip eliminators, break an axel and by by wheel. I’ll find out, I’m putting one in the Duster, 4.30 sure grip and Hoosier radials.
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