Anyone reproduce M46 Scoops Barracuda scoops?

Anyone reproduce M46 Scoops Barracuda scoops?

It does not have to be original, fiberglass is OK because it isn't going onto a show or resto car.

I have googled and looked but can't find a source.

Thanks

I believe Scott Harms reproduced them.
You might try calling him. Maybe there is another set around.
Otherwise, no one else has.

I saw a post where he was going to reproduce them but I didn't see them on his web site.

I will contact him but I don't need a show quality repop and he only does quality work. I just need a cool scoop for a street car.

You might want to check with M46Rat on here . . . he is big into M46 cars . . .might have a spare to sell ????

Anybody know how many cars actually came with those? I’ve seen two cars, and I’ve looked at easily 500 different Plymouth e bodies over the years.

Those are mega rare!

I wonder how many were removed and trashed because people thought it was an aftermarket add-on.

The first time I saw them was in 80’s and I remember looking and thinking JC Whitney... they looked like you could just tear them off with one hand.

I doubt many people checked off M46 on the option box, and it appears that Plymouth didn’t put them on sales-bank cars either!

Just my opinion but they look out of place and stuck on as an afterthought. If it didn't come with them I'd leave them off.

Didn't know what they were so I had to look them up. Never seen them before in 40 years of looking at Cuda's. Pretty subtle but I think I'd go without.

I have only seen them once, and thought they were home made

Ya....cause that has a lot to do with this thread!

supposedly there were 433 made with these scoops.

I have 23 on record at this time in my personal registry. Planning on putting up a web page at some point.

If anyone has any interest in these, here is most of the information I have about these cars.

https://forum.e-bodies.org/vin-fender-tag-build-sheet-and-date-codes/13/m46-numbers-question/14941/

and

https://forum.e-bodies.org/cars-for-sale-or-wanted/8/wanted-1970-barracuda-with-m46-option/551/

This is what they look like.

That’s really cool Cuda hunter! 433.....pretty rare. Certainly it’s an item that as a car deteriorates, they tend to disappear. What do you know about some m46 cars getting the lower body blackout (and stripe line) and others just getting regular paint?

AS far as I know there were none produced with no lower black out paint or stripes.
Some did however appear to have gotten standard argent grills. However I think they were supposed to get the blacked out grill's.

I've been looking for an example of the blue and white stripe from the beginning of my hunting and have yet to even see an example.
Mopar calls out both red and white stripe and blue and white stripe.

Do you know of an example with no black out from the factory?

Unfortunately, rare doesn't mean valuable. As they are lowly bh cars with only 383's, 318's and /6's they are usually cut up to save BS cars.

Of the two cars I saw, one had the blackout and one was regular paint, but I have know way of knowing if the regular paint wasn’t simply a repaint.

I remember thinking the lower blackout would be REALLY handy for rust repair.....no need to paint the whole car!

If I ever see another I’m going to pay more attention and ask more questions.

Where on the car where they located?

Right in front of the rear wheels, all the way down low. They weren’t offered on Cuda’s cause Cuda’s got the rocker gills. And maybe also cause they are just too cheesy for a Cuda.

They are simulated brake ducts.

Friend of mine had a M46 many years ago, really solid car with a lot of nice options 3.91s, racing mirrors, 15" wheels, rubber bumper...

Here is red car, with M46 option, black out (thought they all had it) and the white reflective stripe . . . .

I can see that. They are definitely an acquired taste. I just wanted something that would be a touch different but still be an original looking part.

I did contact Scott and he can make them but doesn't very often because of low demand. His price is pretty good, especially considering the great quality he does with all his work.

Cool thread for sure. I can say in all my years in the parts business scouring over 200 wrecking yards from 1984-1992 in the SW US (TX, OK, NM, AZ, CA, NV), we never saw these on any Barracuda - EVER.

For those of you that have not looked at the links I provided and read a ton of information I will post my list here.
Most of these cars are still in existence. A few of them are questionable as to whether they are gone now.
I have one more to add to this list and working on two others to add to the list. I will get them added soon. In the mean time,

If anyone has any information on an M46 I would love to investigate it. Doesn't have to be for sale. Several of the M46's I have found have been cloned to cuda's and no longer retain their scoops.

1.bh23LOE1000xx fy1 x9 818
2.bh23G0E1010xx ff4 f8 826
3.bh23G0E102911 fc7 x9 908
4.bh23GoE103xxx ff4 f8 910
5.bh23G0B103821 Fy1 X9 821
6.bh27N0B103832 Fe5 X9 821
7.bh23G0E104403 Fe5 X9 9/69
8.bh23G0E105253 Ev2 X9 ?
9.bh23GoE1057xx fe5 e4 923
10.bh23G0E106229 Fy1 X9 924
11.bh23N0E110518 FJ5 X9 A07
12.bh23N0B113376 Ew1 E4 903
13.bh23G0B113378 Fy1 X9 9/69
14.bh23G0E113516 EV2 x9 A21
15.bh23L0B119545 Ev2 X9 910
16.bh23N0B123012 Ev2 X9 915
17.bh23LOB128722 fy1 x9 919
18.bh23N0B135969 Ef8 F8 926
19.bh23N0B1522xx FF4 F8 A09
20.bh23G0B160385 Fy1 X9 A14
21.bh23N0B161736 EV2 T5 A15
22.bh23G0B294374 Ew1 x9 4/70

Here are a few pictures I have.

Would love to get better pictures of that red one and the green one that sits with that red one.

Would love to know anything about the yellow convertible.
Not the one in the last post, it's not a real vert obviously. but the one in this post is an old picture and I've never found any info on that car.

And to add to this, All M46's came with the black out lower portion of the body, blacked out rear tail panel with the m88 trim, blacked out valance and were supposed to also have a blacked out grill.

I'm no expert so if someone has something to contradict this I'd be glad to learn.

There are two 3/8 keeper nuts on the top of the scoops, one in the rear inner quarter behind the rear interior panel and one in the wheel well on the rear quarter.
The bottoms of these scoops were held on with phillips head screws. Most have 4 screws and corresponding holes and a few I've seen have 3 phillips head screws.

The keeper nut in the rear quarter appears to always be the worst preserved.

Not much to add here but that had an f8 green 70 383 barracuda that had those scoops. We all thought they were aftermarket but they were in the body shop crash books at the time, about 1981. Never saw another set. Sold that car, and it was pretty clean for rust at the time. Have no idea if it is still around, or the vin.

I wonder how long they were around the Chrysler parts warehouses? Around summer 1976, I started buying extra stuff for my 1970 Cuda. I remember buying a pair of front spoilers for the AAR - they were under $4.00/each. Bought a Cuda rear sway bar, which I eventually installed on my AAR around the mid-90's. I'm really curious how many service copies of these were in the parts system, & how much they cost, & when they were finally depleted?

Also, anybody know the Chrysler part #'s on these?

I have some old crash books, will take a look for part#. I bought a black aar grille in 1980, was one of the last few out there, had to pay a special handling charge to be sure to get it, total cost was $59.00. Wheel open mouldings were $4.95.

I would love to have a part number for these scoops. Thanks for looking.

59 bucks for a black aar grill. That's crazy. Seems they are the dear lords fortune now a days.

Ornament, side lower dummy air intake 3481968-9 $27.80 list price dec 1976, kinda pricey
It shows a red and white tape stripe with that scoop 3505955 3.81 looks like where the black stops

1970 argent grille 2949558 $38.51
1971 grille 3442647 $69.38
Front lower spoilers 3443352-3 $5.11
Front bumper chrome $65.80, painted same price
Shaker hood 194.00
Shaker scoop 79.24
Front fender 15"all years 121.15
70 dash pad 67.66 with air 53.35
71 dash pad 107.04 with air 84.47
70 rear qtr 133.88
Convertible top 105.20
Deck lid 134.64
Spoiler with stachions 79.88
Tailamp assembly 71 23.73 1970 22.32
Wheel mldings 5.68 list
The good old days, but we only made $1.50 an hour so, about the same price as today.

Will confirm the scoop part numbers in the 70 parts book later.

Here ya guys go . . .right outta the parts book :

And also available in both 70 and 71, covertible and hardtop, and it looks like the 1970 was the only red white tape stripe year, not listed for 1971.

I think it was drafted up for '71 but not offered, from what I've seen.

What's strange is that this was offered for the Barracuda and not 'Cuda. All they had to do was delete the rockers when the option/package was ordered.

Here is a picture of the new reproduced scoops in a mold.

I was wrong, this is an original scoop in the first molding. Better molds now. My mistake. Old photo and I was corrected.

There is a factory picture of a 71 barracuda with the scoops on the car. It's hard to see the scoops. There was not a 71 produced with the scoops installed.

factory diagram

Here is the picture. Took me a few minutes to find it.

Can't see the scoop very good but it definitely has a black out bottom and a double reflective tape line running above the blackout.

I think the answer is - NO SCOOP

I think this should be moved to the restoration section and then saved in the archives so the info doesn't get lost.

Sweet! I've not seen that picture before. Thanks for posting it!

I wonder what the package was that had the black out with the red and white stripe but no scoop. Very interesting.

Could that stripe have been a blue and white stripe? too bad no color pictures of that pilot car have surfaced.

Here’s a new one for your database
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?

Thanks a lot for the link and info! I will definitely be watching it.

BH23G0B155434
E44-318 2 bbl 230hp la
D21-A833 4 spd manual
bh23g0b155434
EK2-vitamin C
H6T5-high trim grade-vinyl buckets-saddle tan
000-upper door frame paint same as body color
A11-Scheduled production October 11th 1969
060313-vehicle order number
V1X-Black vinyl top
A62-Rallye instrument cluster - trip odometer, 150 MPH speedometer, instrument panel woodgrain,
tachomter, clock, fuel, oil and temperature gauges, ammeter, 3-speed/variable wipers
C16-console with wood grain panel
C55-bucket seats front
G31-RH outside manual chrome racing mirror
G33-LH outside remote chrome racing mirror
M21-drip rail moldings
M46-Rear quarter simulated air scoops
N85-Tachometer
R11-AM radio music master
Y05-build to specifications USA Order
EN1

What was the price?

IMGTX,
"I did contact Scott and he can make them but doesn't very often because of low demand. His price is pretty good, especially considering the great quality he does with all his work."


Not familiar enough with the site to get the quote option to work....