Fender tag

I see some people are buying repo fender tag. I wonder how legal those are?

Nothing illegal about fake fender tags just improper. The law doesn't consider them an identifier like the VIN tag.

I’ve seen Mopar trying to pass a car off being the real deal they are pretty much identified by just looking at one if you know what you are looking at. I had a friend ask me to look at one that was being passed off the real deal. It was as fake as my x-wife’s boobs. I told him to run cause what else could be misrepresented

Two states have laws against remade fender tags, Michigan & Oklahoma.

Some fender tag 'services' may have started with good intentions, but every one of them I am currently aware of has made fakes for others.

Fake tags bring a cars value down even lower than the same car with a missing tag.

They taint the cars history forever & ruin the reputations of the fakers.

Same for fake broadcast sheets & window stickers.

Sadly, some members here help others make fakes as well.

Natural reaction.

If someone had a fake tag made, what else is bogus?

The losers that do it open a 'Pandoras Box' into their own activities.

only original once

If a car has a repro FT, the original one had better be with the car or its paperwork.
I can understand having a repro tag if the original is damaged & unsightly, but to create one to falsify data is wrong.

After re-reading the ops original question and all the replies since I guess it’s best to just not add another question to this post.

Definitions;

Original - We all know what that is.

Reproduction - An exact copy of the original with nothing changed.

Fake - Any detail guessed at or changed.

Custom - Obvious to all with no deceit in mind.

For cars missing fender tags if the owner just has to have one to 'fill the spot' I recommend one like this;

I have my pristine fender on my car and want to make another so I can put that on and not worry about someone stealing my original.

I was told as long as it didn’t have the vin number it was perfectly legal.

So if I have a car with no fender tag, I inventory all the options and equipment it has, and have a fender tag made to reflect that inventory, it is automatically a fake?

What would you have to guess at it that case?

The SPD & the VON for '69 up cars.

More guesses yet if it is a Lynch Road tag.

Guesses on tags are noticeable & yes, I call them fakes.

What year did they start adding the vin to the tag 68?? Even car before they started adding the vin to the tag a person can make the car to reflect the car I would call fake. I see it has an alternative reason to try to make a car to the vin. Buyer beware. I seen fake build sheets also for what purposes, to me it is to deceive someone.

1969

Good points.

What if someone had all the original paperwork for a vehicle...( original broadcast sheet/original sales invoice/original window sticker/original title) and the fender tag was
long gone. Let's say the owner wanted to have a tag made, to reflect all the FACTORY CORRECT info from the original paperwork...is that a fake?

It depends........

Lynch Road fender tags have gate & series numbers that were not recorded on original paperwork.

Windsor used its own codes at times & some of their broadcast sheets have no option data printed from about 1/2 way down.

Hamtramck tags with the same SPD have a code on one car of the same model that does not appear on the car one VIN away even when the codes are on the broadcast sheets.


If I had a car with all that other documentation but no fender tag I'd leave it that way.

I would also consider going to a shop that does engraving to have a 'reward' tag made as mentioned above.

Hamtramck tags with the same SPD have a code on one car of the same model that does not appear on the car one VIN away even when the codes are on the broadcast sheets.

BW, Can you explain that a bit more? You mean a non option code? Also since ham had two lines would it be safe to say they had two tag machines? I ask that because I have two slightly different fonts on a few certain numbers on two tags, same SPD. id have to look but the vin is 3 off of each other, and it is not a fluke because its not a rare thing, the only thing I can come up with is they had two fonts, and oddly the same odd font deal carries over to the door stickers as well.

Ive actually two pairs of cars with the vins less then 8 apart, both pairs just goofy luck bought at different times.

I had a new door tag for one made and even ECS wasnt aware of the same day different font deal until I provided proof.

So in essence, Alaskan...your'e saying a vehicle doesn't lose any of it's value, with the fender tag missing, as long as all the other documents are still with the car?
The vehicle in question here, is not a rare car, or even a factory 340/440 6bbl/Hemi...nothing like that, but a very clean V8 car with all it's ORIGINAL paperwork still with it.

Here is an different font example, same SPD, just a few vins apart.

I did not say that at all.

If any original item of documentation is missing, the value would be less than the same car with all of its original documentation.

If a tag is 'replaced' via data from other, fully supporting documentation the value is still less than the same car with an original tag.


Fake paperwork, tags etc. all lower the value of any car too.

Any bogus numbers taint the cars history as well as the owners reputation.


From /6 to Hemi, there are an amazing amount of fakes in this hobby & it is not amazing in a good way.

That happens on original broadcast sheets for the same car too.

Different printers with different fonts.

How would you attribute that to two stamped tags with the different font, two machines?

Got photos?

Every plant had more than one person stamping tags & there were multiple machines.

LAs 'thin' font comes to mind, but even those are being faked.

Here is an example, same SPD one has the straight lower leg 7 one has the dog legged 7.

This is not a fluke and both tags are real, I could post maybe 20 examples of stamped tags with the font off on certain numbers/letters. The difference covers three years. All built at ham.

I can't decide whether to keep this original or get a fake !!