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727 Gurus...Help Please!

Posted By: vdriver

727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 04:32 PM

I went under my Goddaughter's '70 Duster (360/727) to do an oil change and saw this.

Looks like a sleeve/bushing/collar worked it's way out the back and took the seal with it.

Why would this happen? Can I just shove it back in and replace the seal? The trans has roughly 6000 miles on it.

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Posted By: 4406bbl

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 04:50 PM

That driveshaft is too short, causing this problem. I would pull that bushing , install new if it fits tight and get a longer driveshaft.
Posted By: vdriver

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 04:57 PM

Thanks for the reply. That pic might be deceptive cuz the front of the car is way up in the air. The shaft has roughly 3/4" of travel.
Posted By: 4406bbl

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 04:59 PM

If the aluminum housing bore is all spun out from bushing spinning, it kinda looks like it, you will need a new tailshaft housing.
Posted By: 4406bbl

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 05:01 PM

Travel sounds spot on, but it should only be 1" out from seal with car sitting on its rear suspension, that looks like at least 3".
Posted By: 4406bbl

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 05:21 PM

I had better be more clear here, with car sitting on its suspension you bottom the yoke in the transmission, pull out 1", measure center to center of u-joints for driveshaft length. Some after market seals have an additional dust seal that is about an 1" longer so 1" from seal would be incorrect on those.
Posted By: buildanother

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 05:44 PM

Looks like too short of shaft from here too. If the housing will still hold tight to a new bushing, you can rent one of them driver/installer tools that will remove or install bushing with housing still on trans. We used them at trans shop, and cannot recall who mfgd it.(tool)
Posted By: vdriver

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 05:44 PM

Thanks for all the info. I'll be checking it out later today.
Posted By: bboogieart

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By vdriver
Thanks for the reply. That pic might be deceptive cuz the front of the car is way up in the air. The shaft has roughly 3/4" of travel.



I agree with the others.
3/4 inch movement is fine, but that yolk is sticking way out the back of the tail shaft. Gotta wonder how much spline engagement there is.
Good thing you found this before it blew apart on the road.
Posted By: GomangoCuda

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/06/18 08:22 PM

I think you will find the bushing is siezed on the yoke. Why does the yoke look black and rough when I blow up your pic? You didn't paint or undercoat it did you?
Posted By: a12rag

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/07/18 10:27 PM

Who rebuilt the transmission ?? With that low mileage, whoever did the tranny should still warranty it . . . you would think . . . .
Posted By: FurryStump

Re: 727 Gurus...Help Please! - 05/09/18 09:38 PM

Is that rust pits on the seal surface of the yoke?
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