FITECH 6 pack

Anyone do this yet ??

http://www.jegs.com/p/FITech-Fuel-Inject...570244/10002/-1

Is this a race topic ?

No, but I'd like to tey it. Race topic, I don't think so.

That's cuuuute......

I'm into it: someone buy one!

not out yet. unless someone can get a preproduction model. should work just fine like their other throttle bodies. looks to have progressive or maybe one to one linkage on the 2 bbls. biggest limiting factor on the six packs is the manifold design anyway, but coolness factor is way up there.

Thats interesting, fits square bore or spreadbore manifolds. Never seen a "spreadbore" 2300 two bbl. Go figure!

not IMO, Cool idea

I might bite bullet and put it on a small block
on a test stand ..
i have a fast ezi efi 4bbl
Not sure im in love with it .

Make sure you understand, besides buying the 6pack intake, you'll need to mount the ECU.
A major selling point of FiTech is the completely integrated system.
I guess they couldn't get the electronics in the smaller 2bbl body.

From website:
FiTech Fuel Injection introduces the Go EFI 3×2 Tri Power 600HP with External ECU in Classic Carburetor Gold.

Got an ez efi now
So should be easy ..

And looks like it Will fit
They actually put the fuel on correct side
Wonder if theyll run backwards , lol

I run the F&B 6 pac on my 1970 Cuda 440 http://www.fbthrottlebodies.com/
And no I didn't pay that much when I bought mine.

I run it with FAST EFI controller. My system has been running 5 years with no issues.

As others have stated, there is a lot more you need to do than just bolting on the system.

Is the fitech out yet ???

Yes

Yeah, I had a talk with them about the description, still haven't fixed it.

If they can't get it right trying to separate you from your cash I hesitate to wonder what they'll get wrong once they already have your cash.

cut and paste the email

You are correct, the website flyer should be up to date and I appreciate you bringing it to our attention that it has incorrect information. We are working to correct it currently.

-----Original Message-----
From: S Knickerbocker <sknickerbocker@suddenlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:45 PM
To: info@fitechefi.com
Subject: Re: FiTech "Go EFI 3×2 Tri Power 600HP – External ECU"

The flyer I was looking at was the writeup on your website.

I assumed that would be the latest and greatest information at teh time.



On 3/27/2018 10:45 AM, info@fitechefi.com wrote:
> FiTech "Go EFI 3×2 Tri Power 600HP – External ECU"
>
> Hello,
>
> I will answer your questions in order:
>
> It is obvious that whomever wrote up the details on this unit was
> phoning it in. The obvious inaccuracies make it difficult to now what
> is correct and what isn't.
>
> There was a misprint on the flyers, we have corrected them but you
> must have received the incorrect one.
>
> "Fits square bore or spread bore intake manifolds." How does it do
> that? What would be useful is if you told use which 2bbl bolt pattern
> it actually has so we can see if it'll fit whatever intake we have. It
> looks to be the large Holley 2bbl pattern to me, you might add the
> drawing to your FiTech Throttle Body dimensions pdf.
>
> The bolt pattern for these throttle bodies is the Holley 2300 bolt
> pattern. If the intake you have chosen has this bolt pattern (such as
> the stock Mopar 340CID 6 pack intake) then the system will bolt to it.
>
> "High-flow aluminum throttle body with four 45mm throttle bores."
> Someone needs to check their fingers, I count 6, six, you know 2 more
> than 4, throttle bores and are they actually 45mm in diameter, based
> on the accuracy so far I have my doubts.
>
> The 6 throttle bores are 45mm in diameter
>
> "Works with original carb-type distributor, factory-style throttle
> linkage, and most 4-barrel intake manifolds." Again, how does it fit a
> 4bbl intake? Plus I seriously doubt it fits stock Mopar style linkage,
> you most likely need the Holley style throttle linkage adapter to make
> it work properly.
>
> Again the description was incorrect and we have corrected this in
> current printing. The system can work with most electronic ignitions
> including MSD Probillet 2 wire and ready to run distributors, MSD 6
> series ignition boxes (cannot work with 7 series MSD boxes), Pertronix
> Ignitor I, Pertronix Ignitor II, and most other after market 2 wire
> magnetic pickup/ ready to run distributors that copy the ones listed
> above. You cannot use any ignition system that still uses points, or
> has a ballast resistor anywhere in the ignition. Our systems require a
> 12v ignition signal to operate properly.
>
> Here are some questions you need to answer and add to the write up,
> after you fix the obviously incorrect items.
>
> Will it fit a stock Mopar 6bbl intake? The dimensional drawing will
> help answer that.
>
> Yes, it was in fact designed specifically to fit the Mopar 6bbl
> intakes, it was then also adapted to other manufactures aftermarket
> and factory 6bbl intakes (Ford, Chevy) Will a stock Mopar 6bbl air
> cleaner fit? The dimensional drawing will help answer that.
>
> Yes, like stated above it was designed to fit the stock Mopar 6 pack
> setup, thus we also designed it to fit the stock air cleaner as well.
> At $2k why doesn't it include timing control?
>
> The system does allow timing control but you must use a two wire
> magnetic pick-up distributor (such as MSD Probillet) AND a CDI box
> system, such as a MSD 6 series box.
> Where is the Go EFI Systems Manual for this setup? Not listed in your
> tech link, what you have listed is not for this setup.
>
> The instruction manual will be released when the system is on the market.
>
> If you have any further questions please let us know.
>
> *From:* FiTech Fuel Injection <info@fitechefi.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:07 AM
> *To:* info@fitechefi.com
> *Subject:* FiTech "Go EFI 3×2 Tri Power 600HP – External ECU"
>
>
> Image removed by sender. <http://fitechefi.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Steve Knickerbocker
> Email: sknickerbocker@suddenlink.net
> <mailto:sknickerbocker@suddenlink.net>
> Subject: Go EFI 3×2 Tri Power 600HP – External ECU
>
> Message Body:
> It is obvious that whomever wrote up the details on this unit was
> phoning it in. The obvious inaccuracies make it difficult to now what
> is correct and what isn't.
>
> "Fits square bore or spread bore intake manifolds." How does it do
> that? What would be useful is if you told use which 2bbl bolt pattern
> it actually has so we can see if it'll fit whatever intake we have. It
> looks to be the large Holley 2bbl pattern to me, you might add the
> drawing to your FiTech Throttle Body dimensions pdf.
>
> "High-flow aluminum throttle body with four 45mm throttle bores."
> Someone needs to check their fingers, I count 6, six, you know 2 more
> than 4, throttle bores and are they actually 45mm in diameter, based
> on the accuracy so far I have my doubts.
>
> "Works with original carb-type distributor, factory-style throttle
> linkage, and most 4-barrel intake manifolds." Again, how does it fit a
> 4bbl intake? Plus I seriously doubt it fits stock Mopar style linkage,
> you most likely need the Holley style throttle linkage adapter to make
> it work properly.
>
> Here are some questions you need to answer and add to the write up,
> after you fix the obviously incorrect items.
>
> Will it fit a stock Mopar 6bbl intake? The dimensional drawing will
> help answer that.
> Will a stock Mopar 6bbl air cleaner fit? The dimensional drawing will
> help answer that.
> At $2k why doesn't it include timing control?
> Where is the Go EFI Systems Manual for this setup? Not listed in your
> tech link, what you have listed is not for this setup.
>
> —

Thanks for the feedback. I will buy one as soon as you see they are fit for the market.
Let us all know

Man, if they can't even get the product description anywhere close to being right, it hardly instills any confidence!
That said, if it turns out to be a good product, its price is not too bad, since when Holley started making the carbs again years ago, they went to price gouging. I wonder what the cfm rating is on these? Is that a one piece throttle body or a 3 piece? Looks like one.

The price isn't bad, till you start adding the cost of the rest of it. I toyed with the idea of putting on on the small block I have for my Cuda. Yeah, not going to happen, the prices for everything is too much.

Just got my fitech 3x2 injection today. Getting ready to install it. Just need the linkage

We like pictures...

wow this post alive !

july [new] issue of hot rod magazine. page 50, has an installation article, 440 engine, lots of pics there.

Any First hand experience yet ?

I was reading recently about a shop that removed all the Fitech electronics and injectors and ran them with Fast electronics and someone elses injectors. After that, they said they ran very well.

Not surprising.

I have a neighbor with FiTech stuff on his El Camino build. I should say "had". He took it all off and replaced with a carb after all of his issues.

LMAO

We've installed a few a couple of years back and had less issues that we did with a Sniper / MSD system. the MSD was integrated with the sniper controller to allow one to electronically control the timing. After many talks with holley's tech's, we went back to a conventional MSD distributor and the issues disappeared
I have heard of others having issues with the FI systems in the last couple of years so

Another thing to think about is support down the road. had a customer that bought an early TPI $$$$ system from holley many years back. due to some family health issues the project was put on hold. It wound up here as the shop that started is was belly up. When we called holley for support they said everyone involved with that system was no longer with the company and no one technically knew anything about it, However they did offer to sell us their current version
If it's not a factory set up i always ask myself is the "potential" gain worth the $$

I like the system I have on my car. F&B Throttle Bodies. https://www.fbthrottlebodies.com/6-pack/ and a FAST ECU Controller https://www.fuelairspark.com/efi-systems/xfi-fuel-injection-systems.html

I have run this system for over ten year, with no major issues. The only thing I have had to do is, tighten the bolts on the plate to manifold, air leaks, and file the throttle blades a little bit to keep them from sticking, aluminum to brass cool at different rates, so when it cold down the throttle blades stuck a little.

No it was not cheap but it works great!

I Bought the 600hp, 4bbl version of the Fitechefi.com in 2016 used from a chivy guy, ran it for about a year and a half, then saw the 6bbl unit at SEMA in Oct 2017.

For the record, this was installed on my 1971 Plymouth Barracuda, 414ci/727. It was available for order in Feb 2018. I ordered mine and it went back order with Jegs for 7 months! Jegs was awesome as I was very patient. They regularly gave me updates as I requested them along with discounts on the already 1800+ spent. They have gone up in price since. Either was, the unit was finally installed on a Modman intake. I could not find a small block used, new or original intake for the life of me, until I installed the Modman. Imagaine that right.

Either way. There were a few hurdles to get this unit installed to include the obvious, intake, linkage that needed to be purchased separately from Fitech, fuel line/hose and get it running. I'll say, at the end of the day, I am very satisfied with this setup. Fitechefi.com and I have a pretty decent relationship since I've been dealing wit them for quite sometime now.

Remember, we are all old school carb guys and these new EFI systems are like out OBD 1 autos....I still have a 1994 Grand Cherokee that I've owned since 1997, 240k and it runs like a top...just like my Fitechefi.com unit.

#1 tip, make sure your engine is clean n healthy before installing EFI. The EFI will find the issues.
#2 tip, isolate your crank trigger wire
#3 tip, start with new plugs/wires
#4 tip, Get a true 12v source via the battery. Our Mopar engineers really don't allow us to get this via the fuse box etc. Believe me, I've tried.
#5 tip, be patient and believe this will work.

My overall opinion is this a reliable system. I run it on a 414ci stroker small block I built in 2000. This system when 1st installed allow me to take a 9.5hr road trip from OKC to Red River, NM and back. I lost an intake manifold gasket on the way back, but the unit with O2 sensing did it's job and got me all the way home. I think if this was a carb, I would have been on the side of the road.

Either way, a few more items of interest to my Mopar brethren. I run the Fitech inline fuel pump. I don't recommend this and have 100% intent to swap it out for a Holley stock mount with float pump. Just check out Holley's website for this. If you can remove your float switch, you can install this pump. This is a drop in unit that I plan to install on both of my running Barracudas.

Outside of that, give me a shout, 4055966513 or message me with questions.

-Doug

Fixed it for ya, easier on the eyes

does the system require a return line (fuel) ?
maybe a pic of the other side ?

Depends on the system you choose. My inline pump does require a return line. The stock fuel line is used for this. Other kits..their Command fuel system and the intake pump does not. Visit FITECHEFI.COM for specifics.

Don't be skeered to swap to EFI, I made the jump and it's worth it. Pulling a 6bbl air cleaner on and off to adjust floats and mixture screws is no longer in my list of things to do. Adjust the AFR, pump shot etc on the fly in the car! Giggity!!

Thanks!!

In the picture above, I did have to modify my 4bbl throttle bracket to make the Lokar stuff work from my 4bbl unit!

Additionally, if you use a small bock modman intake, you will have to do a little grinding to make the front throttle body clear the intake manifold. I ground the intake and part of the front sensor.....I think it's the Map sensor...it's been a while...

Fitech has the throttle linage, but the bracket I used was my old one as stated above.

might look into it later when time permits. Wonder what a set of 4782-83 series Holleys are worth in pristine condition ?