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New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear!

Posted By: Hoop

New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/27/17 10:02 PM

My New wheel bearing on my 72 Dart with 7 1/4 rear has been getting too hot to touch, but not smoking hot after a 45m drive, drives fine, no noise, just gets a little hot, I'm thinking the guy at the shop may have pressed it down too far, because the retainer ring was a little lower then the old one by markings, but he sead maybe the new retainer ring was not as wide as old one, I did not look a that, so don't know if my old one was wider. I don't think it was on my end, took axle out & had a shop cut the retainer ring off & get the bearing off & press the new one on, but the press was in back, so did not see how he done it, got the old seal out, rubbed the new seal on one side with grease & put it in with a pipe that was same size & new gasket, put grease on outside of bearing, put axel in, light taped it 2 or 3 times with a rubber hammer, tighten the 4 nuts down doing it x patterns to 35fp, So I don't know what could of went wrong???

I'm using Valvoline High Performance 80W-90 Gear Oil, says for
conventional or limited slip!

Any tips would be ok!
Posted By: dart4forte

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/27/17 10:05 PM

The bearing dry?
Posted By: ruderunner

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/27/17 11:43 PM

Agreed, did you pack the bearings with grease?

They don't use gear oil.
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/27/17 11:44 PM

Bearing is post to be pre greased as far as I know on inside, I greased all of out side with bearing grease, got it from rock auto, sead 9" or 10" brakes, mine is 10"., but I don't see how it could be for both, someone told me rear wheel bearings are not the same between 9" & 10",so that could be it too!... when I get another one, I'm going to go with a deff. brand, may go with a NOS one off ebay!
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/28/17 04:33 AM

up on stands does the axle turn freely? How are you determining the temp?
Posted By: ruderunner

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/28/17 11:33 AM

Brakes make no difference to bearing.

Is bearing pressed on the correct direction?

Did you reset the adjustment for the bearings or just bolt the plate back on?

What did you set endplay to?
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/28/17 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By ruderunner
Brakes make no difference to bearing.

Is bearing pressed on the correct direction?

Did you reset the adjustment for the bearings or just bolt the plate back on?

What did you set endplay to?


You have never replaced the bearing on a 7 1/4.

None of your questions apply.

And one dragging brake sure can heat things up,
Posted By: dart4forte

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/28/17 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By Hoop
Bearing is post to be pre greased as far as I know on inside, I greased all of out side with bearing grease, got it from rock auto, sead 9" or 10" brakes, mine is 10"., but I don't see how it could be for both, someone told me rear wheel bearings are not the same between 9" & 10",so that could be it too!... when I get another one, I'm going to go with a deff. brand, may go with a NOS one off ebay!


Yes, bearingsdo come pre-packed however I don't trust parts these days. I alway shoot grease into the bearings until it all oozes out. Just a precaution. Also, it could be a brake shoe hanging up. That will heat things up. Do you have a temp gun?
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/28/17 08:20 PM

Brakes not dragging, rolls free off ground & down hill!
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/28/17 08:24 PM

How can you get grease into a sealed bearing?
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/28/17 09:27 PM

Your parts house will have or can order a $5 hypodermic needle that fits in the end of your grease gun
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/30/17 07:08 AM

I was wondering what bearing was on my axel, Is this bearing for 9" or 10" brakes? My old bearing part # MRC RW6-11B
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/30/17 01:27 PM

Originally Posted By Hoop
I was wondering what bearing was on my axel, Is this bearing for 9" or 10" brakes? My old bearing part # MRC RW6-11B


Not sure why you think they are different. Factory parts manual shows one part number for this.
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/30/17 11:18 PM

Well, auto parts shows 9" & 10"brakes when looking up bearings & some auto parts shows 9" & 10" seals, the seal that come out of my rear, looking it up, says its for 9" brakes, I just wondering did someone change a seal or did someone take a /6 rear & put 10" brakes on it, if so, that could be my problem!
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 05/31/17 03:19 AM

Pre '73 only has one bearing. '73 up has 2 different ones, determined by bolt circle/brake size. BBP axles have a bigger bearing than SBP axles, and they will not interchange. This is for A body.
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 06/02/17 03:22 AM

What about seals, Got a new one from autozone for 72 Dart with 7 1/4, did not have brake size on it, its not as wide as my old one I took out, would it be ok to use?

But I looked up the part # on my old seal, it sead 9" brakes, when I have 10"!
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 06/02/17 03:47 AM

Quote:
But I looked up the part # on my old seal, it sead 9" brakes, when I have 10"!
Mr Murphy is messing with you. can you post pics of old/new & or if the old one fit fine then take em back & have em match it up.
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 06/05/17 12:10 AM

Old seal on left, new one on right!

Old seal part #, Look like NATIONAL 5124

New seal part # from autozone, Duralast 5124

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Posted By: Supercuda

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 06/05/17 01:01 AM

Had you bought a National 5124 instead of what you did buy you would have gotten the proper width seal.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=256240&jsn=257
Posted By: poorboy

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 06/05/17 04:43 AM

The width of the seal is not going to have any effect on a wheel bearing getting hot, unless it has allowed all the gear lube to run through the wheel bearing and has washed the wheel bearing grease out.

If the seal goes into the housing first, it is suppose to keep the gear lube out of the bearing. Gear lube running through a grease packed wheel bearing will wash the grease out of the bearing, but it will leave a grease trail from the bearing/axle down inside the brake backing plate and all over the brake shoes.

The brake size does not have any effect on the wheel bearing or seal. That into is for the "guys" at the parts counter to ask, so they can sell you other stuff related to your brake size. If you had a grease/gear lube leak because of a failed bearing or seal, your brake shoes could have a coat of grease covering the shoes or the inside of the drum, that would make that wheel a lot hotter then the other side. Maybe you need to replace your brake shoes and clean up the drum.

If the axle & bearing turn smoothly, there are no leaks inside the drum, and the brake shoes are clean and dry, I see no reason for a hot axle end. What are you using to determine the bearing is hot, and how much hotter is it then the other side? Gene
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 06/05/17 05:45 AM

Originally Posted By Supercuda
Had you bought a National 5124 instead of what you did buy you would have gotten the proper width seal.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=256240&jsn=257


National seal says for 9", my car is 10", that's why I did not go with it!
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 06/05/17 06:13 AM

Originally Posted By poorboy
The width of the seal is not going to have any effect on a wheel bearing getting hot, unless it has allowed all the gear lube to run through the wheel bearing and has washed the wheel bearing grease out.

If the seal goes into the housing first, it is suppose to keep the gear lube out of the bearing. Gear lube running through a grease packed wheel bearing will wash the grease out of the bearing, but it will leave a grease trail from the bearing/axle down inside the brake backing plate and all over the brake shoes.

The brake size does not have any effect on the wheel bearing or seal. That into is for the "guys" at the parts counter to ask, so they can sell you other stuff related to your brake size. If you had a grease/gear lube leak because of a failed bearing or seal, your brake shoes could have a coat of grease covering the shoes or the inside of the drum, that would make that wheel a lot hotter then the other side. Maybe you need to replace your brake shoes and clean up the drum.

If the axle & bearing turn smoothly, there are no leaks inside the drum, and the brake shoes are clean and dry, I see no reason for a hot axle end. What are you using to determine the bearing is hot, and how much hotter is it then the other side? Gene


CAN'T YOU READ, I said, rim has been getting too hot to touch & most of the time you use your hand, Means I could not keep my hand on it, it was so hot! lol The other side is real warm, but that's prob. from heat transfer, They use to not do that, even with old bearing that had play in it!
Posted By: Hoop

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 06/05/17 06:24 AM

So how wide the seal is would not make no difference on in & out play on the axel?
Posted By: dart4forte

Re: New Wheel bearing getting hot on my Dart with 7 1/4 rear! - 06/05/17 07:17 AM

Originally Posted By Hoop
How can you get grease into a sealed bearing?


Needle attachment for your grease gun

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