REV-N-NATOR

Has anyone had any feedback or experience with the REV-N-NATOR by

RT Garage http://thertgarage.com/images/header_Rev.jpg

http://thertgarage.com/images/MoparMaxOct2013/MoparMax_merged.pdf

Thanks Bob

Quick google search here comes up with all of this rev-=n-nator

Stump that oughta keep him occupied for awhile!

They don't do anything special that you can't achieve with an MSD for much less money. They always compare these things to old-as-dirt Mopar controllers vs actual modern competitors.

Thanks for the input it helps and is apprecited

A lot of guys tell me MSD's current boxes are way overpriced, how much is the revenator??

You can get a Street Fire with a built-in rev limiter for $160 nowadays. It has slightly less spark energy than a 6AL but that is really not going to matter for most motors. The Rev-N-Nator alone is $210.

My 2 cents: use a regular Mopar electronic dist/dial in the subsystems in order, initial/total/springs/vac can/get an HEI module/E coil/NGK or bosch plugs.

I know a few guys with the REV-N-NATOR and they are happy with it. It is a plug in replacement for the stock Mopar ECU, so they did not have to wire anything and it adds a rev-limiter and maybe some performance?. I'm sure it is better quality than the Mopar boxes, but $200+ is a bit pricy.

I gutted a stock black ECU & mounted a MSD-83647 HEI module w/ rev limiter in it. Was like $100 iirc, works awesome. Also went with the blaster II coil & NGK plugs. No problems.

cant beat that

Don't ever use bosche plugs in anything, I have seen tons of bad ones out of the box, last week I fixed two dakotas with misfires after someone did a tune up, a 4.7 and a 5.2 both had new bosche plugs, regular and plat+4. A quick swap to NGK fixes em for good.

How about a little more detail on this? The instructions call for installing the 83647 in a GM style HEI distributor. How do you use a Mopar style stock distributor?

My Revenator is on it's way to R/T now due to a hi speed miss. So I am exploring my options.

Thanks for any additional info!

Google how to install GM HEI on Mopar.. tons of info.
there's this too: http://designed2drive.com/

'75 & up HEI OE chebby black module (4 terminals). Or aftermarket one such as speedway motor dynamod but junkyard ones are cheap/reliable. the designed to drive piece to mount it looks nice but is very pricey, just cut a piece of 3/8 aluminum plate & shape it on your bench grinder (takes only minutes) & drill 2 holes to fit the two holes already in the bottom of the dist. Use some Radio Shack heat sink paste between HEI and plate. 12V to B terminal. coil neg to C terminal. W and G to dist pickup (I forget which is which on that but its in the archives). time it. EDIT to clarify, that 12V is to the coil positive primary

Okay, I get it. I am shocked that this is the first I have heard of this conversion. I really like the idea of hiding the module in an old Mopar ECU housing and that the MSD unit has a rev-limiter.

For those of you that don't run a ballast with the GM style module, do you just tie the start and run circuits together?

Yes it dont get much press for some reason (& it is a chebby piece so it needs to be hidden). last one I did with an accell super coil, the big yellow beast with no ballast & it was a killer setup. you are supposed to run a ballast but you have ALOT of leeway on what you can and cannot get by with. yes tie the brown/blue together

The 4 pin GM HEI is designed to use 12 volts. No ballast resistor is required.

You could look it up.

One of the reasons that the GM HEI worked so well was that they used an E-core coil. The kind with the laminations on the outside. This let more of the energy get to the plugs.

I have posted about the E-core coil before. Price for a good one on Ebay is holding firm at about $12.00.

R.

For the ballast I cut out the coils and solder in solid copper wire. Keepin it stealthy.

Dog which one is it. I wrote it down when you posted it before but it is buried in my notes

I have the Rev-N-Nator on my street driven 70 Charger now for many years with no issues. I have seen none of the more horsepower or starts easier claims as they claim since my car always fires right up anyway but I do like the rev limiter feature just in case I ever over rev it.

I agree as it is just a fancy on/off switch for the coil pri current on the neg side. However it must open when the pickup tells it to/no electronic delay (pulled timing issue on some exp the orange boxes) and be capable of handling however much current that is flowing in that coil pri circuit as some coils/no ballast setups will flow more than others

Reading through the RevNNator website I found a couple of clues to the huge hp gain they tested. the largest hp gain was on a bigblock with total timing set at 32 degrees. That's six degrees retarded from normal best power advance for B/RBs, which is 38 degrees. So a faster acting switch will act like the spark is advanced two degrees, adding more advance to an engine that clearly needs it.

The E-core coil that is easiest to find was used on all TFI (Thick Film Ignition) fords. For example, my 89 Taurus had one, Mustangs of the same year. See this link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261647237128?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Borg-Warner Select FD478.

R.

Wow good find! That is a pretty slick trick on their part, admittedly..

Never seen a 40 horse gain from +2 timing increase. Unless it was on PowerBlock TV... LMFAO.

thanks Dog, noted for sure this time

anyone used the fbo ecu? thoughts?

I like the MDS stuff too but I think the Rev-n-ator is more for guys that want to keep the stock look. I always ran MSD in my race cars, my current street car has a Pertronix IgnitorIII billet distributor, it is literally a 2-wire hookup plus a power wire, and has a built-in rev limiter. It works great but it required grinding alot off the Eddy RPM cylinder head to get it to fit.

The RT Garage here.
Ask away about the Rev-n-nator.

Here is what the Rev-n-nator offers that msd does not:

1. Plug n play
2. Newest technology
3. Made in USA
4. If you ever did have an issue unlike msd you will be on the side of road waiting for a tow. Rev-n-nator just plug in a stock box in and get home without a tow.
5. Keeping your Mopar a Mopar with a stock look.
6. No need to rewire and hide a big red ugly box.
7. We normally average more torque and hp than msd, so pretty darn good for plug in play.
8. Great customer service to all our customers.
9. 3 yr warranty and MONEY BACK GAURENTEE
10. quality piece and good looks
!!. We now offer the complete pkg with a Matched Coil that out performs msd and accel Coil, also the awesome Fire Core hp Distributor which is perfect for The Rev-n-nator.

Depends on what you want.
A stock Mopar look or not.

Darth, The Rev-n-nator can add any where from a 10- 40 hp gain over the Chysler boxes...Orange, Chrome, Gold.
proves it everytime in the dyno challenges.

We never claimed to add 10-40 over msd,but in all dyno challenges we have equaled or exceeded msd.

Obviously, if you have a worn out motor or very low compression motor, that does not require any spark demand,you will see minimal horse power gain.
But still gaining Rev limiting feature and better run ability.

So you are saying you have found ' glues '....those are small amount of dynos...we do not fake anything or twisted timing to get the hp gains.

Being we have developed this product and spend a lot of money on R & D, we know how this ICU works and how we produce so much more hp than most others.

It has to do with digital technology and the best of the best components, and producing a product made in the USA.

Now we offer, a matched Coil ( which is a 1.5 ohm compared to msd and accel at 0.7 ohm ) Fire Core hp Distributor , which is perfect match to the Rev-n-nator.

What gaps are you running, and what brand plugs? Thanks.

Remember the Rev-n-nator is a speciality peice for the Mopar die hard guy and unlike Street fire, ours is made in the U.S.A. with much higher quality components.

And manufacturing in the U.S.A. does cost more.

But that being said we are still cheaper than many China made ignition systems out there such as msd when everything is said and done.

I'm sold on the Rev-n-ator. A pure stock racer racer recommended it to me. I bought one and and noticed immediate increased idle quality and sharp cranking spark. I pitched my chrome box to the scrap pile. I like the performance, the look and the rev limiting feature.

We use a quality spark plug like NGK
Don't use Champion.

Very nice Cuda, TX9!
Glad your Rev-n-nator is kickin' butt and your havin' fun!

I had an issue with my something in my ignition system. Shot them a message since its was already a Friday late afternoon. Low and behold I got a phone call a few minutes later from RT Garage working to resolve the issue. Then my big issue was going through a pile of "like new" ECU's ( FBO, couple oranges, old black one) I already had just to find out they had all gone bad. Don't know why I even kept them. I haven't tested the rev limiter yet though, but I'm glad to know it is there especially being a 4 speed. I'm still hoping it jives with the FiTech EFI system I need to install next.

But but but they dynoed it for proof. How dare you post that?