Ammo for Inline Tube

I am putting a 70 Duster 318 car back together. It is a 318 car with factory 10" drums. I re-verified that this is what should be on a V8 car with the FSM. The DS front brake line that goes from the rubber line to the wheel cylinder is a home made job from back in the day. It had some Teflon tape on it when I pulled the wheel apart.

I was worried about it leaking at the wheel cylinder since the fitting pretty much bottoms out in the new wheel cylinder. The line was fairly tight, but not as much as I would like. It leaks.

I ordered a new set of front brake lines from Inline Tube and they arrived quickly and they were wrong. Of course it was on a Saturday. I called on Monday and the tech was at lunch. 1230pm Detroit time. I called back around 2pm Detroit time and got a tongue lashing from the Tech about how busy he was and I needed to be patient and how I was on his list to call back. I held my tongue.

He wanted a picture of the PS brake line since it was a factory original. When he called back he told me that it was for a 9" drum brake car and not a 10". He felt that he had to tell me this several times. I was obviously wrong as far as he was concerned.

It took the entire week to get the brake lines. I am pretty sure that they had to bend them up and they were not in stock. I base my assumption on the fact that the first set arrived quickly.

The top set in the picture are the first ones that they sent. The bottom set are the ones that just arrived, on Saturday. If you can look closely, the fittings are the same on the second set. One side needs to be longer to bottom out in the wheel cylinder.

If it is possible to get the guy to admit that their records are wrong, 10" drums vs. 9", I still have to wait another week to get the parts. I guarantee that the LONG fitting will be on the WRONG side when they come.

Naturally I have to wait until Monday to try to get this fixed.

Opinions?

Thanks

This is a picture of the PS line that I emailed to Inline Tube.

this won't help with your problem, but several years ago [well, maybe 10+ - it was from the 2001 catalog LOL !] my buddy ordered a rear brake line kit for an 8 3/4 in a 70 superbee from year one, and the number listed they sent was for a dana 60. he called back, and they said that part number fit dana 60 AND 8 3/4[one year only- #QRB74 TS - steel]. they said his rear must have been modified some how [?]. i had him order a line kit for a 66-69 8 3/4 [#QRB45TS - steel] and it fit perfectly ! that number was still listed for several years after, and since i don't have a current year one catalog, i don't know if they EVER corrected it. and trying to correct the wrong info in the catalogs with the phone jockeys is fruitless. hope you get your deal sorted out ok.

Sorry, but there's enough posts on here regarding brake line vendors, that FINELINES should have been your only choice

The last build I did was my 68 GTS. I got Finelines as replacements from front to rear. Never had a more difficult time getting brake lines to stop leaking. Tried everything. Tightening, backing off and retightening several times didn't seem to get the flares to seal. Ended up getting some lines done up locally. Finelines, never again.

Missed those. Gonna research Fine Lines.

I'm looking forward to crawling WAY up some behinds first.

I did a build using Inline Tube. Replaced fuel and brake lines front to rear. Never had a problem. Don't know why I used Finelines on my 68.

Had issues with their lines from long ago...


Had to tweak every single one to make 'em work...

But then their shop only about 15 minutes from my house. Good bunch of guys

Gus

For what it's worth on leaking lines. I know this sounds wrong (as I told the person who taught me). Put a dab of teflon thread sealer on the threads and on the flare. I don't know why it works but it does work. Try it and you'll never build another brake line job without it. You will never have another leak either.
Doug

My Dad was a proctologist.


(No he wasn't)

A '70 B-body Dana 60 and a '70 B-body 8.75" DO share the same brake lines.

Sounds like your friend has a '68-'69 rear. This is the reason I ask for the vent-bolt location when a customer orders rear brake lines.

Agreed, Teflon paste or light oil will help fresh fittings and lines seat/seal properly, esp Stainless Steel lines, also a must is a proper set of tube wrenches, a standard wrench can "egg" a flare fitting when tightening and no amount of sealer or torque will keep it from weeping

Mike

That might work on steel lines, but I've done battle with SS...


The flares must be perfect...

I'll probably end up using some Teflon paste. That is if these guys can build me the right lines, and if they can eat a little humble pie too.

The only lines I like to install are Stainless, I find them no more an issue than steel whether I make them, or purchase them, 3/16 stainless lines are a bear on double flare equipment to make however, esp on the die end, you need to stock up on dies as they fracture alot forming that small a radius

Mike

Thats when I first started using it, on stainless. My bet is it lubricates more than seals. I was a skeptic, as were many I told. Try it.
Doug

thanks for setting the record straight cass ! in 01, i wasn't a member here and didn't know about you. your word [in my opinion] is the true gospel. as you stated, the vent bolt location on the housing made the year one lines incorrect. as the 66-69 line kit fit almost perfect out of the box, i thought [incorrectly] the year one listing was at fault. if anyone from year one is listening [other members here too], forgive me for spreading misinformation about your company and your product listing !

I discovered years ago that just because a model year changed at Chrysler, parts on the line may have changed before or after the date of the model year change.

If they ran out of a specific part, the line would swap in next years parts in, to keep the line moving, and if there was still a supply of a specific part left over in inventory, the line probably used them before breaking open the new stuff.

At the model year end, the last month of the old year or first month of the new production year could have a mixture of both years parts on it. Older Mopars could have had parts from 2-3 months either side of a model year change. This procedure has been documented at Chrysler as far back as the late 40s and still continued through at least 2004, and probably is still going on.

Our 04 PT has a turbo. According to everyone, any 04 turbo car comes with rear disc brakes. Our early production 04 has rear drum brakes, something that ended with the 03 production parts. When I need rear brake parts, I need to get 03 rear brakes.

The old line on Chrysler was "Never say Never" and saying they "always" did something is just as incorrect. At Chrysler, the only "always" means there is "always a possibility of exceptions to everything". Gene

I have used Fine Lines, The Right Stuff and Inline Tube with out any issues.

I'm gonna do that, Doug...


(Cuz' I got one TINY leak at the metering valve that I have had absolutely no luck sealing 100%...)

OK, so I finally got this resolved. I will still be out the ridiculous amount of shipping that I paid for 2 sets of wrong lines.

I talked to the receptionist and told her what a douche her fellow employee was to me and that I wanted to send the stuff back. She says OK but there will be a restocking fee. WRONG. Pete gets on the phone to work this out. I tell him the whole story plus how I had bought the correct lines from Fine Lines. He looks at them on the internet and doesn't have a whole lot to say except they probably got them from Inline Tube. Whatever. I also say that I want them to pay return shipping to which he agreed. I have yet to get the label.

Here are the Fine Line parts...

I received the wrong part from them once...the front brake line that goes across and clips on the firewall.

They acknowledged it was the wrong application, and they made the mistake because the phone agent SHOULD HAVE asked more questions.

In the end, I received the replacement part next day, and kept the old one - they didn't want it back.

I thought that was very good customer service.

LMAO...


Well...

THAT'S reassuring...

Yea, I know. I'm fairly quick on the uptake, especially if I'm cheesed off a bit. But I should have said "Why didn't you send me the correct part in the first place if they sell your stuff?"

In the future if anyone wants to order from Fine Lines we offer discounts to Moparts members. Drop shipped direct, no markup on shipping. Email us for a quote.