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Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? )

Posted By: 440whiteboy

Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 01:19 AM

Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? )

My 73 charger has a 440. I'm replacing the electric fuel pump that came with the car. Removing the block off plate -


Am I missing the rod inside the block? With finger in all around and with allen screw out cannot see it?

Only thing I can feel is the block casting and the timing chain?
Posted By: therocks

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 01:22 AM

It probally gone.Most are removed when elec pump is used.Mancini has some good ones I think.Rocky
Posted By: 440whiteboy

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 01:26 AM


is the rod a called a cam rod? in reading some of the other post, it should be 3 1/4" long.

just want to ask for the right part -
Posted By: VL21

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 01:42 AM


I call it the fuel pump pushrod, and beware of where you get one, there has been mention of them wearing rapidly, and becoming ... shorter.

whistling
Posted By: 440whiteboy

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 01:59 AM

ok - will be looking for a fuel pump pushrod.

any idea's from who to order it from?
Posted By: HEMIDOG 70

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 02:32 AM

Huges engines sells a hardened one. http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/produ...mp;partid=10201

Stay away from the Mopar performance rods they had a bad batch of soft ones. This is the one out of my Hemi not many miles on it and chewed away already. I replaced it with the one from Hughes. I can't really say how it's doing as I haven't looked at it since installing it.

Attached picture fuel pump pushrod resized for moparts.jpg
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 02:36 AM

3&1/4" rings a bell. As said get a good one (Hughes)
Posted By: 440whiteboy

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 02:49 AM

thanks for the info - and a bonus is a picture!

will call in the morn for the order.

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Question.....

Once I get the part... about the install - I insert thru the top?
how will I know when its in?

I should be looking for a hole to drop it in to fit right?
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 03:31 AM

I ain't up on BB intricasies but iirc you (1) pull the pipe plug (2) install the rod all the way up thru that (pipe plug) hole till it is seated with some grease on the leading end of it to hold it up there (3) replace the pipe plug (4) install the pump with the arm under the rod
Posted By: mccannix

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 05:12 AM

..or drop me a PM.
I have a quantity of NOS factory Chrysler ones left,
the ones they used in all their 383,440 and Hemi motors.
Therefore the best of the best.
$18.00 shipped to your door

Attached picture tmpphpKlgGko.jpg
Posted By: therocks

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 05:33 AM

They are about IIRC 2 1/4 inch long thats a good price on the Mopar ones.I might have to PM you.Rocky
Posted By: MO_PA

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/13/15 04:01 PM

mccannix

please contact me I'd like to buy some fuel pump push rods

my64bel@yahoo.com
Larry

I'm unable to send a private message!
Posted By: 440whiteboy

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/19/15 06:41 PM

Originally Posted By RapidRobert
I ain't up on BB intricasies but iirc you (1) pull the pipe plug (2) install the rod all the way up thru that (pipe plug) hole till it is seated with some grease on the leading end of it to hold it up there (3) replace the pipe plug (4) install the pump with the arm under the rod


Thanks for the info! it was very helpful - installed just like you said.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/19/15 07:08 PM

Hey I appreciate that & you musta got lucky & the cam lobe that actuates the rod was on the base circle! I had forgotten all about that (been on SB's for decades now but a 451 is in the works)
Posted By: 440whiteboy

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/19/15 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By RapidRobert
Hey I appreciate that & you musta got lucky & the cam lobe that actuates the rod was on the base circle! I had forgotten all about that (been on SB's for decades now but a 451 is in the works)


Either luck ( for the first time ) or I will be in trouble when I go to start her up@#&^?

The screws --- like others have said where about 1/4 out of the base with only one going in first - then pulling the pump to the block. Cam must of been at the right spot with the rod slipping in with grease to hold it. Lets hope its all good! smirk

Need to put gas in the new tank I installed as well with the pump.

I also had pulled the alternator to get at it - was hard lying on the ground only to use one hand.


with your 451 - is that a stroker?
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Posted By: 440whiteboy

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/19/15 10:25 PM

Originally Posted By mccannix
..or drop me a PM.
I have a quantity of NOS factory Chrysler ones left,
the ones they used in all their 383,440 and Hemi motors.
Therefore the best of the best.
$18.00 shipped to your door



Thanks mccannix - for your offer - my bad for missing your post.
went to bed early that night - ordered the part in the morning from Hughes. You would have saved me $10

maybe next time!


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Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Mechanical fuel pump - cam rod ( missing ? ) - 04/20/15 07:02 AM

Quote:
with your 451 - is that a stroker?
Yes 400 block/440 crank KB 280 pistons. I ain't even mocked up yet but if I was to do it over I would had the crank offset ground to get 470 cubes & that in a low deck is a nice combo. Not sure how far in or out of the hole I will be but I want to get quench & ~9 ish SCR as I like to run a fast curve
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