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Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar?
Posted By: AndyF
Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 05:27 AM
I've decided to get rid of the old school Holley pumps and upgrade to a modern in-tank system for my '65 Coronet. Just wondering if anyone else has done this recently? I think I can find a place to cut a hole in the tank and hooking up the wiring and plumbing shouldn't be a problem. My engine has a carb and makes about 600 hp so I should be fine with the smaller 200 series system.
Posted By: renegade0131
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 05:39 AM
I put one in an e-body tank. Did like they did in this article.
I bought the phantom 340 on sale at Jeg's a while back for the same price as a 200.
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/1409-upgrading-a-mopar-fuel-system/
Posted By: mopar346
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 05:44 AM
Not sure what the brand was but I am in the process of doing one in a 67 GTX right now. I mounted the pump but due to it sticking up I am using a foam bumper on top of the tank for clearance, I'm using the 1/2 inch foam matt for Tractor Supply and will probably double it. Using Summit screw type fittings. I swapped the regualtor toa return style and still have to finish the plumbing at the carbs and run the return line. I think all the final fittings came in Friday so I should be able to finish it Monday.
http://havanahotrods.com/htm/67gtx.htm
Posted By: mopar346
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 05:48 AM
I will try to get a picture Monday how I ran the lines and wires out but essentially I brought them out the center right above the original sending unit. The tank will be about an inch lower but it should not be noticeable at all from behind.
Posted By: Dragula
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 06:00 AM
Yes many times now....Both my Cuda and my D100 I had tanks built and put A1000 pumps in them...Nice and quiet...Never did it with a stock tank though, but they make an A1000 that goes in thru the top if the tank is deep enough.
Posted By: 67440dodge
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 06:32 AM
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Not sure what the brand was but I am in the process of doing one in a 67 GTX right now. I mounted the pump but due to it sticking up I am using a foam bumper on top of the tank for clearance, I'm using the 1/2 inch foam matt for Tractor Supply and will probably double it. Using Summit screw type fittings. I swapped the regualtor toa return style and still have to finish the plumbing at the carbs and run the return line. I think all the final fittings came in Friday so I should be able to finish it Monday.
http://havanahotrods.com/htm/67gtx.htm
That's from Tanks Inc. I bought that as well as their recess so the tank would sit flush against the trunk floor. I just saw they are going to be releasing tanks with recesses and baffles built in for A/E-bodies.
Posted By: fullmetaljacket
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 07:15 AM
Andy. I have installed one a few years back within a custom aluminum stock looking tank in the stock mounting position. It works flawless and rather quiet. 1/2 aluminum line, 1000 Aero pump with correct filters both at the pump and inline just before the firewalls bottom where it turns upwards and towards the engine bay.
Posted By: Stanton
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 06:08 PM
I think that recess from Tanks is the ticket to solving the clearance issue. Tanks also sell a good selection of pumps - reasonably priced.
Posted By: AndyF
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 08:06 PM
That tank in my '65 is right up against the floor for the entire length. I think I'd rather modify the truck floor than the tank for clearance. It looks like I can just put a pocket in the side of the trunk tire well to give me clearance for the fuel pump.
Aeromotive has a bunch of EFI ready tanks for sale on their site but it doesn't look like they have any classic Mopar ones yet.
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 08:32 PM
I've done it with the tanks inc style, basically came down to cost... you can use a walbro style pump with them which are easy to get and not too expensive. I didn't use the recess piece they sell, I modify the tank myself. The hole in the floor above the pump would be the way to go... didn't do it on the one I did because I didn't want to cut a nice original wagon floor.
Posted By: 67440dodge
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 08:39 PM
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I think that recess from Tanks is the ticket to solving the clearance issue. Tanks also sell a good selection of pumps - reasonably priced.
The recess was definetely the way to go for me. I looked at the Aeromotive setup, but because 66-7 B-bodies have such limited space to mount things, it was cut open the trunk floor or run a recess. Since I don't have the tools to make a recess for the Aeromotive setup, modifying the pre-made one was next best option. And since it came with the same fuel pump that FAST includes with their setup, it was a no brainer for me.
Posted By: Stanton
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/22/15 10:09 PM
Did you use this style of pump ?? What do you do for a gauge sender ??
Posted By: 67440dodge
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/23/15 12:09 AM
Yup, I used that setup. I got the PA-4 pump with the kit.
I had to shorten it a bit to fit, and turned it so the tray was parallel to the front of the tank. (Otherwise the fuel would empty out the hole when accelerating)
The stock sending unit fit fine, so saw no reason to change it. I clipped the supply line for it inside the tank. If need an extra vent, I was going to use that for it.
Posted By: mopar346
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/23/15 02:24 AM
The Tank Inc. pump shown is the one I used and I too used the factory sending unit for the gauge and just capped the factory fuel line. I believe spacing it down is gonna do the trick for me since I don't wish to damage a nice factory trunk floor either. I will try to remember to get some pictures of the tank installed tomorrow and pictures form the rear to show the road view.
Posted By: goldduster318
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/23/15 02:57 AM
I'm going to go with the Aeromotive phantom setup (already have it) - and either space down the tank slightly or make the access hole in the trunk.
It's nice that someone like Tanks, Inc is coming out with something, but I don't get why you'd want one of those fuel cell style senders (has anyone ever had one read accurately??) and if their basket baffle really works during any sustained g-loading. It looks somewhat inadequate for that. The Aeromotive one is such that the foam and rubber cupped bucket is pretty tight around the pickup strainer - once the gas is in there it won't just slosh out.
Posted By: redmist
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/23/15 05:22 AM
I just started my install tonight. 68 Charger, stock tank, I had planned to weld in a drop area for the pump hat, as it's obvious it's going to hit the floor...
But before I did that, I got out the hammer and beat down a corner into a flat area! This gave me about 1.5 inches of room to work with. I am going to try it this way, if it doesn't work well, I will cut it out and weld in a nice pan for the pump hat.
Here is a picture with the large hole template setting in my ghetto pan.
Posted By: Cudajon
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/23/15 06:40 PM
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Here is a picture with the large hole template setting in my ghetto pan.
Sometimes the simplest ideas are the best. I like this.
Posted By: AndyF
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/23/15 06:56 PM
That looks really good for hammer work. I think that might work just fine.
Posted By: G_T
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/23/15 08:28 PM
That does look good. What is the total measured height now that you lowered it?
Posted By: frank
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 03:06 AM
I did exactly that in my 69 GTX. I used an Aeromotive Stealth 340 pump mounted in the tank. used -6 feed and -8 return line with AN fittings throughout. I used Aeromotive regulator mounted in the engine bay. I'm running a 496 with 550 HP and 670Lb of torque. Absolutely no problems and I would do it again in a heart beat
Posted By: CKessel
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 03:57 AM
There was an article in the sreetlegaltv.com that covered a tank from Ricks tanks going into his 65 Belvedere with the 340 pump. I think this is the way I'll be going for my 65 Coronet. Fully baffled stainless tank. I'm going to ask about getting it made 2' narrower to keep some of the exhaust heat from it and maybe a little deeper too. Was thinking about putting the Stealth unit on a new tank and cut a hole in the trunk then make an access lid over it but new stainless baffled is the way for me.
Posted By: mopar346
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 04:18 AM
Not the best picture but I put the tank up in the GTX today and it fit snug with the original strap. As I had mentioned I use the .5 inch condensed foam/rubber matt from Tractor supply and doubled it to get up above the fittings. I didn't sit it back on the ground yet so no street view but I cant see that it will even be noticeable.
Posted By: denfireguy
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 05:09 AM
One thing I noticed about the new Tanks Inc. fuel injection tank has a 19 gallon capacity, two and half gallon increase over stock.
Craig
Posted By: mopar346
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 05:28 AM
Not the best picture but I put the tank up in the GTX today and it fit snug with the original strap. As I had mentioned I use the .5 inch condensed foam/rubber matt from Tractor supply and doubled it to get up above the fittings. I didn't sit it back on the ground yet so no street view but I cant see that it will even be noticeable.
Posted By: AndyF
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 06:01 AM
Yep, those tanks look great. Only problem is that they only have a few tank designs at the moment for Mopars. Maybe if a few people send them emails they'll get a few more tanks designed for Mopar cars.
Posted By: redmist
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 06:12 AM
Not sure on measured height yet on my ghetto tank, I will cut the hole tomorrow and flange out the area, and measure to the bottom.
Posted By: mopardude318
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 09:19 AM
Posted By: mopar346
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 02:44 PM
Nice welding mopardude, I aint that skilled. I can tell you though I'm not sure there is enough depth in the GTX tank for the assembly I used. Did you consider if the pick up would be uncovered under accel where it is mounted.
Good thread showing lots of options.
Posted By: Stanton
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 04:17 PM
What's the advantage of the Aeromotive pump over the "Tanks" unit at 1/3 the price ?? Both flow the same. Both Made by well known manufacturers.
The Aeromotive is pretty ... but that's about it. And its hidden from view anyway.
Just wondering!
Posted By: mopardude318
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 07:37 PM
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Nice welding mopardude, I aint that skilled. I can tell you though I'm not sure there is enough depth in the GTX tank for the assembly I used. Did you consider if the pick up would be uncovered under accel where it is mounted.
Good thread showing lots of options.
Woah! Hold your horses there buddy!! I did not weld that, I had my friend weld it for me so he gets the credit, he is very talented welder!
The instructions state to place that in tank pump in the deepest part of the tank so that's where it was. I looked on YouTube and watched videos of other guys doing in the same spot without issue so I thought I would be good there.
I also like that tanks Inc. fuel tank. It should also work very well and I like the aftermarket universal sender mounted on top of the tank instead. I'm debating if I want to have another recess installed on my tank and mount that universal sender on top as well, what do you think?
Posted By: G_T
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 10:10 PM
mopardude - that looks nice
Was that piece for the recess pre-maid? If so, where did you find it?
Posted By: AndyF
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 10:36 PM
That is some really nice work. Good clean metal fab and very nice welding. Looks great and should last a long time. I'll have to check out Spectra tanks. I had not heard of them before.
I'm still trying to figure out what to do with my '65 Coronet. The tank is only 7 inches deep so if I cut a notch into it then I'm really close to the minimum depth required. I think it might be easier for me to weld a little bump into the floor of the trunk to clear the pump outlets.
Posted By: AndyF
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 10:44 PM
Turns out Spectra has new tanks for early B-body cars so that is cool. I didn't know anyone was making early B-body tanks. I'd lot rather weld on a brand new tank than an used one!
Posted By: RobbMc
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 11:17 PM
The photos on this thread show some very nice products and some beautiful fabricating.
But if you're lazy like me, and already have a working stock fuel system (including a stock mechanical fuel pump), this can be installed in an hour or two and accomplishes the same objectives:
http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products/powersurge.htmlOf course, not everyone likes the look of the PowerSurge tank mounted in the engine compartment, but if you don't mind the appearance, and have room for it, it is much easier and often cheaper overall.
Posted By: G_T
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/24/15 11:52 PM
That's an interesting option Robb... Wont work for me as I don't have an existing fuel pump... hmm..
Right now I have new fuel tank for my Charger and the leading contender is the Aeromotive kit shown above.
I've priced out all the little bits and pieces and with the exception of the hose (or hardline), its going to run around $780...
Posted By: frank
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/25/15 02:51 AM
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Yep, those tanks look great. Only problem is that they only have a few tank designs at the moment for Mopars. Maybe if a few people send them emails they'll get a few more tanks designed for Mopar cars.
The tank I used was a stock replacement fuel tank. Nothing special about it at all.
Posted By: mopar346
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/25/15 03:28 AM
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I'm debating if I want to have another recess installed on my tank and mount that universal sender on top as well, what do you think?
I'm cheap so I would use the original style if you have a good one. The one in the X was new so I saw no reason to do anything different.
For the record I used a new tank as well since welding (my brother welded the inner ring in place) on a used tank that had fuel in it a few hours ago didn't seem like a great idea.
Posted By: Stanton
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/25/15 03:44 AM
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Was that piece for the recess pre-maid?
Available from Tanks Inc http://www.tanksinc.com/
Posted By: mopardude318
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/25/15 06:19 AM
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mopardude - that looks nice
Was that piece for the recess pre-maid? If so, where did you find it?
thank you.
my friend made the recess himself... there is one available at tanks inc, like previously stated, however be careful, i think it comes as shown, a pre-drilled hole for their style of fuel pump mount/top plate. maybe you can order one from them with the holes drilled in it to use the pump kit of your choice?
Posted By: 68KillerBee
Re: Anyone put an Aeromotive in-tank pump into their Mopar? - 02/26/15 03:46 AM
I believe my cousin is putting one innhis, says they have a video of one going into a dart on their website. Should go great with his 408 stroker with the atomic msd system he just bought
