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Ram with 4.7 for towing

Posted By: moparmikethree

Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 06:29 AM

Interested in getting a ram truck for hauling a trailer with a car. How are the trucks with the 4.7? Do they have enough power, and do they hold up?
Posted By: moparmikethree

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 07:39 AM

Anybody have any opinions on the 4.7 good or bad
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 07:44 AM

I would do it. But around here the roads are long, level, straight and flat. If it were hilly and curvy, that 4.7 would do a lot of gear shifting. I know it was like that trying to tow a 5.2 ram. That or stay with a stick shift.
Posted By: ademon

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 07:46 AM

my 03 Dakota quad towed fine the few times i tried, but flat here also.
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 08:29 AM

I had an '06 AWD Dakota with a 4.7 H.O. It towed my open trailer pretty well, but it wasn't nearly as good as my 5.9 Dakota was. If it were me, I would hold out for a 5.7 or 5.9 truck.
Posted By: 451Mopar

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 09:23 AM

I had a 2000 Ram 4.7L and it was ok unloaded, but even unloaded it was lucky to get 14 MPG. With a open car trailer, it would tow it, but the transmission would search for a gear quite a bit when going up hill. I wouldn't recommend the 4.7 for towing. If you can't get a diesel, at least get the 5.7L Hemi
Posted By: prochargedhemi

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 12:02 PM

I wouldn't recommend the 4.7 period. to many engine issues.
Posted By: DaveRS23

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 03:06 PM

I buy cars in St. Louis which is about 2 hours away with a mix of flat and rolling hills. I use a small 16' tandem trailer. I have probably pulled this trailer with a couple of dozen different trucks, mostly Dodges.

The 4.7 won't cut it. It will drop out of OD on any small hill or with a little head wind. And that is when the trailer is empty.

At 287 cubic inch, I consider the 2.7 a lite duty engine in full sized trucks.
Posted By: Hemi_Joel

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 03:16 PM

I had a 2004 with a 4.7 and I am another one does not recommend a 4.7 for any purpose. They don't have any torque, and they get crappy gas mileage. you have to drop two or three gears for hills, and you got the gas pedal on the floor almost the whole time.Go with the Hemi it gets better mileage and will pull any trailer you put behind it.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 03:21 PM

I tow a heavy trailer with a '99 5.2 ram. I does a very good job but I sure wouldn't want any less motor.
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 04:08 PM

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I buy cars in St. Louis which is about 2 hours away with a mix of flat and rolling hills. I use a small 16' tandem trailer. I have probably pulled this trailer with a couple of dozen different trucks, mostly Dodges.

The 4.7 won't cut it. It will drop out of OD on any small hill or with a little head wind. And that is when the trailer is empty.

At 287 cubic inch, I consider the 2.7 a lite duty engine in full sized trucks.



You don't tow in OD.

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Posted By: DPelletier

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 04:49 PM

I cringe when I have to tow my car trailer with the Hemi powered truck instead of one of my diesels....a 4.7? wouldn't even consider it.


A small open trailer with an A body....maybe just a roller....just across town....with a tailwind = maybe.


Dave
Posted By: attaboy

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 06:47 PM

I have a 2010 Ram w/4.7. I've towed my 71 Charger R/T only once for about 100 miles. It does OK but uphill is a little frustrating. I don't think it would be good for a lot of towing. The motor doesn't have much reserve, however I was towing @ 5000 ft elevation. It did fine on level ground once it got going.
attaboy
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 07:35 PM

Have been towing been towing everything from 16 foot horse trailers, to enclosed race trailers, to hauling big bales and for the last 20 years with 318 or 4.7. Best is use a 3.92 gear.. If you have a 3.55 use a shorter tire to use the gear better. Still not as good as a 3.92 with a shorter tire but will work as long as not to windy or hilly. I just towed through 4 states with a 3 horse with dressing room using a 4.7 and 3.55 gear. Windy and hilly was tough with the 3.55 but --. In all the years have never had what is called a white knuckle ride and have pulled many thousand miles. Get the load balanced right(60/40 front to rear) and the trailer brakes set right. Drive accordingly. Just because the speed limit is 75 doesn't mean that you have to drive that.
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 08:13 PM

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Have been towing been towing everything from 16 foot horse trailers, to enclosed race trailers, to hauling big bales and for the last 20 years with 318 or 4.7. Best is use a 3.92 gear.. If you have a 3.55 use a shorter tire to use the gear better. Still not as good as a 3.92 with a shorter tire but will work as long as not to windy or hilly. I just towed through 4 states with a 3 horse with dressing room using a 4.7 and 3.55 gear. Windy and hilly was tough with the 3.55 but --. In all the years have never had what is called a white knuckle ride and have pulled many thousand miles. Get the load balanced right(60/40 front to rear) and the trailer brakes set right. Drive accordingly. Just because the speed limit is 75 doesn't mean that you have to drive that.






And I was complaining about my 454" motor and 4:56 gears in my old truck.
Posted By: Chris2581

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 10:18 PM

I have a 2002 Ram with 4.7 A/T and 3.55's....I tow a 5000# car/trailer combo,and have had no problems towing with it.I get 13.5 mpg towing the car/trailer. My Ram has 196,000 on it and I've had ZERO problems with it,just normal maintenance.I do not tow the car with OD. I do use OD when pulling our pop up camper.
Posted By: GODSCOUNTRY340

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/24/14 10:19 PM

Looks like you're in PA. Many hills means you're going to want a 5.9 or 6.7 Cummins. That 4.7 will be eaten alive by the mountains there. If you do go with the 5.7 Hemi be sure to get a 2500 Ram for towing. This way you'll be sure not to get the MDS Hemi (Multi Displacement System). They're not designed to tow a lot, that's the reason the MDS is not used in the 2500 Rams.
Posted By: DaveRS23

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/25/14 12:43 AM

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I buy cars in St. Louis which is about 2 hours away with a mix of flat and rolling hills. I use a small 16' tandem trailer. I have probably pulled this trailer with a couple of dozen different trucks, mostly Dodges.

The 4.7 won't cut it. It will drop out of OD on any small hill or with a little head wind. And that is when the trailer is empty.

At 287 cubic inch, I consider the 2.7 a lite duty engine in full sized trucks.



You don't tow in OD.




Did you miss the part about the trailer being EMPTY?

I wouldn't own a truck that couldn't pull a small empty trailer on OD. I don't even consider that "towing". But thanks for your opinion.
Posted By: ademon

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/25/14 12:50 AM

To the OP how often do you plan to tow?
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/25/14 02:37 AM

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I buy cars in St. Louis which is about 2 hours away with a mix of flat and rolling hills. I use a small 16' tandem trailer. I have probably pulled this trailer with a couple of dozen different trucks, mostly Dodges.

The 4.7 won't cut it. It will drop out of OD on any small hill or with a little head wind. And that is when the trailer is empty.

At 287 cubic inch, I consider the 2.7 a lite duty engine in full sized trucks.



You don't tow in OD.




Did you miss the part about the trailer being EMPTY?

I wouldn't own a truck that couldn't pull a small empty trailer on OD. I don't even consider that "towing". But thanks for your opinion.


Nothing there stating empty. By the way what is a 2.7???? PS I wouldn't tow anything bigger than a small utility trailer or light boat without it being locked out of OD, Maybe that is why I have never hurt an engine or transmission.
Posted By: DaveRS23

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/25/14 02:54 AM

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I buy cars in St. Louis which is about 2 hours away with a mix of flat and rolling hills. I use a small 16' tandem trailer. I have probably pulled this trailer with a couple of dozen different trucks, mostly Dodges.

The 4.7 won't cut it. It will drop out of OD on any small hill or with a little head wind. And that is when the trailer is empty.

At 287 cubic inch, I consider the 2.7 a lite duty engine in full sized trucks.



You don't tow in OD.




Did you miss the part about the trailer being EMPTY?

I wouldn't own a truck that couldn't pull a small empty trailer on OD. I don't even consider that "towing". But thanks for your opinion.


Nothing there stating empty. By the way what is a 2.7???? PS I wouldn't tow anything bigger than a small utility trailer or light boat without it being locked out of OD, Maybe that is why I have never hurt an engine or transmission.





2.7 instead of 4.7 was a brain fart. Good that you caught that. Maybe the bold will help clear you up on the other part.

Anyway, most who have pulled much seem to agree that the 4.7 is not the best choice.
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/25/14 05:23 PM

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I buy cars in St. Louis which is about 2 hours away with a mix of flat and rolling hills. I use a small 16' tandem trailer. I have probably pulled this trailer with a couple of dozen different trucks, mostly Dodges.

The 4.7 won't cut it. It will drop out of OD on any small hill or with a little head wind. And that is when the trailer is empty.

At 287 cubic inch, I consider the 2.7 a lite duty engine in full sized trucks.



You don't tow in OD.




Did you miss the part about the trailer being EMPTY?

I wouldn't own a truck that couldn't pull a small empty trailer on OD. I don't even consider that "towing". But thanks for your opinion.


Nothing there stating empty. By the way what is a 2.7???? PS I wouldn't tow anything bigger than a small utility trailer or light boat without it being locked out of OD, Maybe that is why I have never hurt an engine or transmission.





2.7 instead of 4.7 was a brain fart. Good that you caught that. Maybe the bold will help clear you up on the other part.

Anyway, most who have pulled much seem to agree that the 4.7 is not the best choice.


May not be the best choice (I agree) but can be made work with gearing, proper weight distribution, and brake set up, and driving accordingly. I was brought up in the day when a person pulled with what was available. We hauled cattle to market in the back of a 48 Ford half ton if the bigger truck 1 1/2 or 2 ton truck was not available, people pulled big airstream type campers with a car, hauled 300 bushel of 60 pound per bushel wheat to market in the box on a 1 1/2 ton truck. People didn't have a special vehicle for everything and the trucks were users not Sunday go to meeting vehicles. Saw this at a trail ride last fall.
Posted By: TC@HP2

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/25/14 05:39 PM

Pay close attention to the location of those replying and relate that to the area you may be towing in.

If it requires changes in tires and gears to make a 4.7 work, the expense of doing that could be offset by just getting a bigger engine.

Also, the frequency of the towing is a factor too.
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/26/14 03:43 AM

I would tow in OD with the 4.7 on flat ground. At a steady speed it should not be hunting through gears. Hilly or curvy is a different story. Better yet get the stick shift and not worry about the auto problems.
Posted By: shinnery

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/26/14 09:52 AM

I have a '96 2500 ClubCab 8.0, what do you want to hook on it? I have only had it up to 19.5K GCVW so far.
Bryce
Posted By: babarracuda

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/26/14 02:19 PM

I owned a 4.7 Durango 2WD and towed my 67 Barracuda lots with it. 4.7 is a overhead cam motor. My engine had problems at 142,000. If you plan on keeping the truck a long time, don't buy a 4.7. My friend who is a mechanic won't work on 4.7 motors. I loved that Durango until I had a cracked head ands had to junk it because it would be at least $2000 to replace a cracked head.
Posted By: FuryBoy

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/26/14 03:20 PM

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I wouldn't recommend the 4.7 period. to many engine issues.




Odd, we have a 4.7 '02 Dak quad 4x4 at work. Has towed many a scissor lift many a mile with 285K on the odometer. Never had an issue besides a warped exhaust manifold.

We have many more 4.7 work trucks in the fleet, never had any issues with them.

The scissor lift and trailer weighed close to 4000 lbs together. Not as much as a car, but not light. I would not hesitate to use the 4.7 for OCCASIONAL towing. But, I prefer my CTD.
Posted By: 2boltmain

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/26/14 04:27 PM

Ford switched entirely to OHC motors in the 90s. Why did Dodge bring in just one OHC engine but keep the more powerful gas engines pushrod? Where they feeling out the waters to see if they should go full bore OHC like Ford?
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/27/14 07:13 AM

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Ford switched entirely to OHC motors in the 90s. Why did Dodge bring in just one OHC engine but keep the more powerful gas engines pushrod? Where they feeling out the waters to see if they should go full bore OHC like Ford?




Pushrod is cheaper. The ohc was for mpg. On the newer ones they were able to get what they want out of a pushrod engine.
Posted By: Kern Dog

Re: Ram with 4.7 for towing - 07/27/14 08:25 AM

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I had a 2000 Ram 4.7L and it was ok unloaded, but even unloaded it was lucky to get 14 MPG. With a open car trailer, it would tow it, but the transmission would search for a gear quite a bit when going up hill. I wouldn't recommend the 4.7 for towing. If you can't get a diesel, at least get the 5.7L Hemi




Curious...Are you sure it was a 2000 model? I thought the 4.7 was first installed in the full size trucks for the new body style in 2002.
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