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Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end?

Posted By: mopar346

Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/22/13 11:26 PM

Both of mine a bent slightly at the K-member end, but they are even so I am wondering if they were bent that way on purpose or are they suppose to be perfectly straight like A-body ones?

If they should be straight what other ones will interchange correctly?

It is an AAR if that matters.

Thanks in advance, Kevin
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/22/13 11:55 PM

They're all bent slightly like you describe.

Sheldon
Posted By: Sunroofcuda

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/23/13 12:54 AM

I ain't never did notice that on my AAR & I rebuilt the front end myself. News to me.
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/23/13 01:24 AM

If they were supposed to be bent, there would be a up and down to them.

If it's a really tiny bend that you can only see on the bench or only by measuring them, I don't think it will make any difference. Especially with rubber bushings.
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/23/13 01:30 AM

Need a picture to know what your talking about.

Most are slightly bent from service and can be bent back slightly with a press, no big deal.
Posted By: mopar346

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/23/13 04:45 AM

I'll lay them out tomorrow and see if I can get a good picture of them. I did grab a set of A-body one I have sitting in the shop and they are straight as an arrow, just shorter (that's how I know they are A-body).

Thanks for the info so far.
Posted By: 1972CudaV21

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/23/13 05:25 AM

Swing over to Bill's website: http://www.bmcuda.com/

He has a restored set on his homepage.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/23/13 05:33 AM

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If they should be straight


Yes absolutely
Posted By: TC@HP2

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/23/13 05:54 AM

They are supposed be straight, just like the A body ones you have.

If both sides are bent equally, it may have been a half azzed attempt of introducing extra positive caster into the alignment. Put a jack under the strut, crank it up, it bends and shortens the effective length, you are adding positive caster by default. Swapping back to straight struts will subtract positive caster.
Posted By: ahy

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/23/13 06:42 AM

Its fairly common for the strut rods to have a "dog leg". My OE rods do. Some have more than others. With the dog leg the working ends are still in line... in between though, there is the dog leg. If the rod is bent by hooking a chain or wrecker, ends are no longer in line.
Posted By: toplescuda

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/23/13 04:25 PM

I have a frontend i took out of a 72 charger and the strut rods were bent on it both look the same was looking at the ones under the gran coupe were working on there stright
Posted By: jcc

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/24/13 05:55 PM

All the tow truck drivers I asked say yes, and if they aren't they will be glad to fix them for you.
Posted By: 71birdJ68

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/24/13 07:31 PM

Even my 71 B body rods were bent. Probably to clear the sway bar assay making assay easer.
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/24/13 08:36 PM


Here's my thinking: If the strut was supposed to be bent, the FSM would make mention of which way to clock it on installation....it doesn't, the FSM merely says to install the strut and torque the nuts.
Posted By: astrobuf

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/24/13 09:57 PM

My observation is that the E Body strut rods are not bent, they just kinda look like it because of how they were machined.

The Rod's appear to be a forging and are not really "round". The threaded ends appear to be "offset" from the center of the rod which makes them look bent. In fact, in my case, the threaded ends are straight with each other, but the rods look funny as the thread center is offset from the rod center.

Astrobuf
Posted By: BDW

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/24/13 11:18 PM

Quote:



Here's my thinking: If the strut was supposed to be bent, the FSM would make mention of which way to clock it on installation....it doesn't, the FSM merely says to install the strut and toque the nuts.




I agree, and if they were bent the travel wouldn't be symmetric.
The stock ones I replaced were bent, the new ones from Just Supensions were not.
Posted By: mopar346

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/25/13 02:40 AM

Thanks for the info so far. I am convinced at this point that they are bent, I may try to straighten them but if I can to my satisfaction then I will replace them. What other car do they interchange with if any? I have a number of cars that I can borrow them from if I have a match.
Posted By: ahy

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/25/13 05:36 AM

I've got a set of OE rods from a 70E. They do have some "dogleg" but I believe ends are straight. PM me if you need them.
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/25/13 05:40 AM

I have bent plenty of them, they were all straight to begin with...
Posted By: moparmarks

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/25/13 02:54 PM

I have several sets and they are straight. Bent ones go in the scape pile.
Posted By: mopar346

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/26/13 03:39 AM

Here is what I am talking about.

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Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/26/13 03:44 AM

The one on the bottom is severely fubared & the one on the top less so. After all the yeas & nays on this what is your verdict
Posted By: mopar346

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/26/13 03:49 AM

Replacement is in order. Is a 71 and up B body the same? I have one and access to several more.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/26/13 04:10 AM

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Replacement is in order. Is a 71 and up B body the same?


I ain't sure as I am almost exclusively into A bodys but we did race an E body one time
Posted By: moparmarks

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/26/13 06:47 AM

Both of those puppies are bent.
66-72B and 70-4E are the same. All others are different.
Posted By: mopar346

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/26/13 03:40 PM

Thank you Mark, I have a slew of those, probably even some that aren't bent.
Posted By: astrobuf

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/26/13 04:13 PM

Quote:

Here is what I am talking about.




Ouch, Those are both bent. The top one might be straightenable. The bottom, toss it.

Astrobuf
Posted By: moparmarks

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/26/13 08:50 PM

Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 12/27/13 02:35 AM

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Here is what I am talking about.




Replace them. These are from a 70 E-body.

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Posted By: bee1971

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 07/02/17 05:27 AM

1971 B Body
Ordered the H D Mancini Strut Rods

You can see the one in the picture ( Top) next to my factory strut rods

You can also see the factory strut rods have a dog leg bend in both rods , in the exact same location

K Frame has been powder coated and straight as an arrow perfect

Lower control arms , new bushings and straight as an arrow

Make a long story short

These Mancini Strut Rods will not fit , not even close

My factory strut rods are about 17.5" from shoulder to shoulder

Mancini is 18" - Obviously these Mancini Rods are sweet , but no way they will fit , even with no inside bushing let alone the Moog bushings or Energy suspension bushings that I have

What am I missing here ???

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Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 07/02/17 05:43 PM

Originally Posted By jcc
All the tow truck drivers I asked say yes, and if they aren't they will be glad to fix them for you.
Ding ding ding I do believe we have a winna.
Posted By: bee1971

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 07/02/17 06:05 PM

These are going back to Mancini

Bottom line , they don't and won't fit and if I could some how , my alignment would bee fffffffffffffff ed , they are to long

Others , same issue over on ForBbodiesonly , with pictures installed

Sounds like I need to find some originals or adjustable s

Posted By: jcc

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 07/02/17 06:44 PM

I haven't read the entire thread recently, why again are you replacing the "bent" ones? They are FWIW only loaded heavily during braking, and that is in tension, ie, that tries to straighten out the bend. Any attempt to bench straighten them, would only improve matters, visually, and reduce any possible lengthening as the bend straightens under braking. twocents

edit, before we obsess on the bend straightening issues, my guess is the OEM rubber bushing solution by itself used on millions of mopars, allows 1/4"? of movement (which is a lot more then your pictured bend could possibly contribute) in hard/daily use, and really hasn't been a concern. Its a minor issue on anything that is not on the track IMO.
Posted By: bee1971

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 07/02/17 07:34 PM

Because everyone on the internet says they must bee straight , however I have worked on more then a few 71 72 B bodies that have had these exact same configuration

Anyways , like I said , Mancini s are to long shoulder to shoulder , and that's a fact
Posted By: THESHAKERPROJECT

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 07/02/17 08:16 PM

I got a RUST FREE set at Spring Fling for $30 and they had all the hdw and were perfect. That was this year. Very easy to find a set.
Posted By: Dave Hall

Re: Are E-body strut rods suppose to be bent at the end? - 07/03/17 06:14 AM

Wait a sec. I thought this was about E- bodies??? Why does the Mancini part say B-body?
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