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You really can't, most shift kits involve removing check balls, drilling larger holes in the valve body separator plate and other hard to reverse mods. Depends on who's shift kit as to various mods done.
I suppose if you could find a stock valve body for that year trans you could do it that way. Either that or find a real guru on this trans and have him do it.
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Just get a stock valvebody out of a used trans, it takes just a few minutes to swap them out when the pans off.
Sheldon
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Just get a stock valvebody out of a used trans, it takes just a few minutes to swap them out when the pans off.
Sheldon
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'71 was a year of major changes in the TF; the '71 VB works in the '70 trans but I wouldn't use a '70 VB in a '71 trans.
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If you want it to shift like stock you leave the VB stock.. If you want to modify/improve the shifts you add a shift kit.
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If you want it to shift like stock you leave the VB stock.. If you want to modify/improve the shifts you add a shift kit.
It does not shift like stock to me and it does not shift as a shift kit should as described on this thread. I was told by previous owner it had a shift kit but I guess I need to pull the pan and see what is in there. Again it shifts so smooth and fast that I cannot tell it is shifting unless I go real slow and concentrate. I have adjusted the kickdown linkage and replaced the missing spring but I will have to get with someone to look at this. This is such a headache it almost makes me want to install a manual 4 speed.
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If you want it to shift like stock you leave the VB stock.. If you want to modify/improve the shifts you add a shift kit.
It does not shift like stock to me and it does not shift as a shift kit should as described on this thread. I was told by previous owner it had a shift kit but I guess I need to pull the pan and see what is in there. Again it shifts so smooth and fast that I cannot tell it is shifting unless I go real slow and concentrate. I have adjusted the kickdown linkage and replaced the missing spring but I will have to get with someone to look at this. This is such a headache it almost makes me want to install a manual 4 speed.
I don't really understand the problem , do you think there is a problem because you are not feeling your fillings being rattled loose by the shift? A bone jarring shift does not equal a good shift. Do you have a tach ? That will show you the shift is happening by the RPM drop.
Some shift kits change servo springs also so you just can't change the valvebody and think you are reverted back to STOCK.
What missing spring did you replace ?
also you say it has a high stall converter ? That means the engine may have a larger than stock cam that requires the use of a higher stall , if you change it back to a stock converter that will probably make the driving experience worse.
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When you say rapid do you mean too soon? I would double check your kickdown adjustment.
Work with what you have before spending money that might take you backwards..
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Missing spring ??? Let's hope a misadjusted throttle pressure linkage did'nt start to fry the trans...High stall converter and shift kit does'nt add up to a shift you can't feel... If anything it should be more harsh...I'd do as others have suggested and adjust the linkage to where it should be,and see how it affects the shifts... Then watch the RPMS during the shifts for any slippage ETC ...
Thanks that is good advice.
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If you want it to shift like stock you leave the VB stock.. If you want to modify/improve the shifts you add a shift kit.
It does not shift like stock to me and it does not shift as a shift kit should as described on this thread. I was told by previous owner it had a shift kit but I guess I need to pull the pan and see what is in there. Again it shifts so smooth and fast that I cannot tell it is shifting unless I go real slow and concentrate. I have adjusted the kickdown linkage and replaced the missing spring but I will have to get with someone to look at this. This is such a headache it almost makes me want to install a manual 4 speed.
I don't really understand the problem , do you think there is a problem because you are not feeling your fillings being rattled loose by the shift? A bone jarring shift does not equal a good shift. Do you have a tach ? That will show you the shift is happening by the RPM drop.
Some shift kits change servo springs also so you just can't change the valvebody and think you are reverted back to STOCK.
What missing spring did you replace ?
also you say it has a high stall converter ? That means the engine may have a larger than stock cam that requires the use of a higher stall , if you change it back to a stock converter that will probably make the driving experience worse.
When I got the car the kickdown return spring was missing and that is the spring I replaced. It is not that I want jarring shifts but I cannot feel the shift at all. I have owned a couple of stock mopar auto 's before and I could feel when it shifted. The cam is close to stock. It is a Comp # CRS 268-H -10.
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A missing linkage return spring would tend to make the linkage sag to the rear and result in late firm shifts....not much potential to cause any damage.
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If you want it to shift like stock you leave the VB stock.. If you want to modify/improve the shifts you add a shift kit.
It does not shift like stock to me and it does not shift as a shift kit should as described on this thread. I was told by previous owner it had a shift kit but I guess I need to pull the pan and see what is in there. Again it shifts so smooth and fast that I cannot tell it is shifting unless I go real slow and concentrate. I have adjusted the kickdown linkage and replaced the missing spring but I will have to get with someone to look at this. This is such a headache it almost makes me want to install a manual 4 speed.
I don't really understand the problem , do you think there is a problem because you are not feeling your fillings being rattled loose by the shift? A bone jarring shift does not equal a good shift. Do you have a tach ? That will show you the shift is happening by the RPM drop.
Some shift kits change servo springs also so you just can't change the valvebody and think you are reverted back to STOCK.
What missing spring did you replace ?
also you say it has a high stall converter ? That means the engine may have a larger than stock cam that requires the use of a higher stall , if you change it back to a stock converter that will probably make the driving experience worse.
When I got the car the kickdown return spring was missing and that is the spring I replaced. It is not that I want jarring shifts but I cannot feel the shift at all. I have owned a couple of stock mopar auto 's before and I could feel when it shifted. The cam is close to stock. It is a Comp # CRS 268-H -10.
Do you have any idea how and how many miles the car was driven with that missing spring, that could be why the shift feels soft? What was holding the linkage forward before then?
Do you have an idea what the stall is of the current converter ?
Taking the shift kit out isn't going to fix the trans , also putting a shift kit into a trans that may have been close to needing a rebuild is going to make things worse not better as some might think.
Since you need to pull the trans to replace the converter I would get the converter you want , pull the trans and have it checked out , at minimum a seal kit is not super expensive.
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Good to hear!
Make sure that you can still achieve wide open throttle...... I have seen way too many adjusted to far rearward that the rod will impede the carb from WOT.
I usually start with holding the carb at WOT (after making sure the throttle cable is adjusted properly so it can achieve WOT) then adjust the rod to push all the way rearward on the trans lever. Hopefully that makes sense.
Don