Moparts

Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit?

Posted By: BTTG

Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/15/12 06:48 PM

anyone know which fel pro head gasket (part #) comes in this kit for a 440? Is it the 8519?

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/micenkitb1.html

Thanks in advance
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/15/12 08:28 PM

I'm not 100% sure but I'd be surprised if it wasn't the 8519. Just miked one at .048"
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/15/12 08:55 PM

Quote:

I'm not 100% sure but I'd be surprised if it wasn't the 8519. Just miked one at .048"




I haven't seen anything but the 8519PT gasket in any big block felpro kit I have bought in the last 2 decades.

RR you need to get a measurement of it crushed (installed) ...
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/15/12 09:53 PM

Posted By: dogdays

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/15/12 10:28 PM

Mancini is but a phone call away.
R.
Posted By: Mopar Mitch

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/15/12 11:16 PM

For any "performance" application, the BB wants/prefers the 1009 o-ringed gaskets which also has the SS armor wrapped around the internal o-ring. The 8519 is simply a RV/truck gasket with the additional 2-cooling hooles per spark plug area... and those only work IF the heads and block have thos holes cast into them. The set ou showed in your photo is the Federal-Mogul "SEALED POWER" KS set... it does not have the performance gaskets included.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/16/12 11:55 PM

Quote:

RR you need to get a measurement of it crushed (installed) ...


on an 8553PT I got .058" new and .053" compressed (used). On an 8519PT1 I got .049 new
Posted By: dogdays

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/17/12 01:48 AM

Guys, let's step back a minute and ask "why?".
Why bother with all sorts of guesses and ideas when the OP can very easily CALL MANCINI and get the answer. No guessing involved!

Also, for 90% of all the bigblocks built, the 8519PT is sufficient gasket. Now if it hangs over the chamfer or otherwise into the bore, it won't work. But saying it isn't acceptable unless it has "armor" over the crush ring is just malarkey.
People on this board have run those supposedly inferior gaskets up to 11.5:1 compression without trouble.

Shoot, if you want to spend money on a gasket, get Cometics. At least they are reusable!

R.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/17/12 01:57 AM

I'm doing a BB build for a guy (1st one in decades) & cant believe how restricted the coolling holes are on the 8519PT, the 3 slots at the top ain't going to cut it & very little openings on the outer edge. Cant drill em, I tried on the center piece that overhands into the valley just to see. The HF hole punches wont go thru the metal core. I'm going to a machine shop tomorrow & see what they have for a punch. Dog you got any info/tips/suggestions for me
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/17/12 02:54 AM

The intent of those slots is not coolant flow, it prevents air pockets getting trapped.... The intended coolant flow path is front to back around the heads the down around the rear cylinder & toward the front.... By opening the coolant passages mid way you allow the coolant to bypass the rear cylinders...
Posted By: 451Mopar

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/17/12 05:47 AM

Quote:

The intent of those slots is not coolant flow, it prevents air pockets getting trapped.... The intended coolant flow path is front to back around the heads the down around the rear cylinder & toward the front.... By opening the coolant passages mid way you allow the coolant to bypass the rear cylinders...




Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/17/12 07:34 AM

Quote:

Guys, let's step back a minute and ask "why?".
Why bother with all sorts of guesses and ideas when the OP can very easily CALL MANCINI and get the answer. No guessing involved!

Also, for 90% of all the bigblocks built, the 8519PT is sufficient gasket. Now if it hangs over the chamfer or otherwise into the bore, it won't work. But saying it isn't acceptable unless it has "armor" over the crush ring is just malarkey.
People on this board have run those supposedly inferior gaskets up to 11.5:1 compression without trouble.

Shoot, if you want to spend money on a gasket, get Cometics. At least they are reusable!

R.




For over 20 years if you called Mancini and if they didn't know they would call the actual manufacturer; Fel Pro. Makes sense, they made the gaskets.

And for over 20 years that would mean Mancini would be talking to Mopar Mitch at Fel Pro.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/17/12 04:23 PM

Quote:

Guys, let's step back a minute and ask "why?".
Why bother with all sorts of guesses and ideas when the OP can very easily CALL MANCINI and get the answer. No guessing involved!






I'm not guessing , every Felpro gasket kit I have purchased in over a decade , including 2 this year , has had the 8519pt head gasket .
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/17/12 04:29 PM

Quote:

I'm doing a BB build for a guy (1st one in decades) & cant believe how restricted the coolling holes are on the 8519PT, the 3 slots at the top ain't going to cut it & very little openings on the outer edge. Cant drill em, I tried on the center piece that overhands into the valley just to see. The HF hole punches wont go thru the metal core. I'm going to a machine shop tomorrow & see what they have for a punch. Dog you got any info/tips/suggestions for me




RR I have never had an issue with those cooling slots, the prior MP steel shim head gasket has the same size slots. I don't know what the current look like ?

People have talked about this as an issue but I don't know of anyone actually having an issue, except maybe on a RACE application. Not until about 72-73 did Chrysler change the hole in the block to a figure 8 pattern, before that the hole in the head and the hole in the block didn't line up and the slot was the only way for the water to circulate there. If you change or add holes you are going to change the way water flows in the block/head, not sure if that is a good thing ?
Posted By: Mopar Mitch

Re: Which fel pro head gasket is in this gasket kit? - 10/17/12 04:37 PM

When I read issues of gasketing, I take special interest because I had worked for a major gasket company and I know how gaskets are designed, as well as per applications, typical cataloging and marketing.

Head gaskets are designed, with respect of coolnat flow and control, to be restrictors and directors of the coolant flow pattern and volume. IF you choose to alter them away from your cataloged aplication, you run the risk of trouble with coolant control -- for any head gasket application of any make/manufacturer, etc.

The additional coolant holes on the 8519 BB head gskt are for spark plug area coolant purposes so to help prevent hot-spots causing detonation under such service loads of operation (truck/RV). The cooling holes match the OE-determined design which also matches those specific castings (head and block having those extra cooling passages).

If in doubt, call the MANUFACTURER'S Tech Line yourself for the best direct answer.
© 2024 Moparts Forums