Mopar Performance ignition coil

Posted By: Charger 1

Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/10/12 02:52 PM

Does anyone have any experience or info on the 'restoration' ignition coil from Mopar #2495531? Is it as good as a Blaster 2 or should it be avoided? Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Posted By: Lee446

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 12:42 AM

I'm interested too!

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 12:43 AM

MSD blaster 2 will be a better coil than the RESTO coil .

Posted By: mikemee1331

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 01:18 AM

avoided is kinda strong, makes it sound like the plague. what are you putting this in? street car, show, race? you're trying to compare apples to apples and you can't.

Posted By: Charger 1

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 02:33 AM

It will be used in a street car - one that is driven hard and often.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 04:04 AM

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It will be used in a street car - one that is driven hard and often.

Are you going for stock appeareance under the hood ?

Posted By: Charger 1

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 01:25 PM

No - I'm not worried about stock appearance. I would just like something a little hotter than a stock coil and a quality piece. Over the winter I installed a brand new Mallory #29216 (made in China) and it lasted all of 200 miles. I went with the Mallory brand because I'm running a Mallory promaster (made in the USA) on another car and it has performer flawlessly for the last four years. I wanted a round coil so I wouldn't have to relocate to coil (like I would if a used a promaster or something like that). I was just wondering if the Mopar resto coil was any good, if it has the same juice as a stock coil, where it was made, etc. What brand of coils have you guys had good luck with?

Posted By: Dunnuck Racing

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 01:40 PM

What ignition box are you using,stock or other?
Keith

Posted By: Charger 1

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 01:56 PM

I'm using the orange Mopar box.....

Posted By: Dunnuck Racing

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 02:04 PM

I don't have a MP coil to do any testing with,but of all the coils I have tested on the dyno recently,the best was the Mallory Promaster with the Mopar Performance Chrome and Orange boxes. Since you want a round coil,the Accel Points/electronic yellow was next in line. Sorry I can't remember the part number off the top of my head. I can look at it later and let you know.
Coil selection makes a big difference on how well these boxes work.
There are better choices for ignitions out there though.

Keith

Posted By: Charger 1

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 02:10 PM

Thanks Keith. Maybe I'll just forget about trying to stay with a round coil and buy another Promaster.

Posted By: Dunnuck Racing

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 02:17 PM

For many years I ran a Blaster 2 on my car with a chrome box and always figured it was a decent setup.
After dyno testing and researching enough about coils and ignitions in general,I have learned a lot more than I ever intended to about them.
The Blaster coils are not a very good choice,they were intended to be used with an MSD that likes to do very quick,short sparks and they dont have the best characteristics for MP boxes.
With the right coil,you can pick up a lot of low end and mid range power with a coil that works with it.
Keith

Posted By: Dougsmopars

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 09:53 PM

The resto coil from Mopar performence is discontinued and i haven't found any one who still has one in stock. After reading this post i'm glad i didn't find one and spend the money. Right now i have the stock repo restoration coil with chrome box with .25 ohm resistor and blue race regulator. car runs great. I know a lot of people will say not to use the blue regulator on the street but i've been useing them for years with no problems. But i will admit i don't go on 300 mile road trips either. Not much choise when trying to stay stock looking.

Posted By: mikemee1331

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 10:00 PM

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For many years I ran a Blaster 2 on my car with a chrome box and always figured it was a decent setup.
After dyno testing and researching enough about coils and ignitions in general,I have learned a lot more than I ever intended to about them.
The Blaster coils are not a very good choice,they were intended to be used with an MSD that likes to do very quick,short sparks and they dont have the best characteristics for MP boxes.
With the right coil,you can pick up a lot of low end and mid range power with a coil that works with it.
Keith

this is very interesting!! could this be one of the reasons for the high failure rate of the orange box? what about E-coils? have you done any tests on them with MP boxes or MSD boxes?

Posted By: 1970sixpak

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 11:01 PM

@ keith. Did you test any of the petronix coils?

Posted By: mikemee1331

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 11:16 PM

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It will be used in a street car - one that is driven hard and often.

OP, while we wait for an answer on the coil question a suggestion, ditch the orange box. driven hard and often is not what the orange box is really designed for. if you want to stick with a MP product that will be plug and play with your harness, step up to the chrome box. i personally use MSD but alot of guys use the chrome as it's rated for higher rpm usage.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/11/12 11:19 PM

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@ keith. Did you test any of the petronix coils?

Pertronics coils are made in china , at least they were 5 years ago when I bought then returned the flamethrower , bought the epoxy filled MSD , wasn't made in china it worked well.

Posted By: Dunnuck Racing

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/12/12 03:56 AM

I have not tried a Pertronix coil,I looked but have not seen any advertised specs.on them other than whatever they advertise for voltage.
I started testing coils with th Rev N Nator to see what worked best a while back,and it migrated to testing them with the MP boxes too.
The Rev N Nator likes a long hot spark,the MP boxes are similar.
Some of the coils out there don't have enough spark duration to work well with them.
When I started testing the Firecore ready to run distributor a while back with the Firecore coil I was advised not to try his coil with the MP boxes because they could not handle the current.
It is an E-core design. I did try an MSD E-core with the MP boxes and about 4500 rpm it started popping and missing.
I am not quite done testing coils and boxes,but someday soon I will have to move on to other things.

Keith

Posted By: 1970sixpak

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/12/12 04:08 AM

So it sounds like the accel yellow coil is the way to go for us guys who run the MP boxes and need a canister style. I am guessing then the accel will work well with the rev-n-nator as well.

Posted By: Dunnuck Racing

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/12/12 04:41 AM

The only problem with the Accel's is they crap out about 63-6500 rpm. The Mallory has run to well over 7000 with the Rev n nator and MP chrome.
The MP boxes change dwell and retard timing though around 4000 rpm give or take. Different coils seem to change where it happens.
I am trying to find a canister coil that will work at higher rpm. That's my main reason to keep testing.

Keith

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/12/12 04:54 AM

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The resto coil from Mopar performence is discontinued and i haven't found any one who still has one in stock. After reading this post i'm glad i didn't find one and spend the money. Right now i have the stock repo restoration coil with chrome box with .25 ohm resistor and blue race regulator. car runs great. I know a lot of people will say not to use the blue regulator on the street but i've been useing them for years with no problems. But i will admit i don't go on 300 mile road trips either. Not much choise when trying to stay stock looking.

What is stock looking about the blue race regulator?

Posted By: Charger 1

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/12/12 02:21 PM

I have a box that I purchased several years ago from Don @ FBO. He swears it is much better than ANY Mopar brand box. It is mounted on my other car which is not being used at this time. I'm thinking about using the FBO box with the Mallory Promaster coil(#29440). What do you guys think about that combo?

Posted By: GomangoCuda

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/12/12 07:12 PM

Keith - By any chance have you tested the old style Accel Supercoil with a chrome box? Uglyest coil on the planet but seems to work just fine.

What ballast resistors are you using in your testing? Sometimes different coil and ecu combos like different resistors.

Posted By: Dougsmopars

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/12/12 09:15 PM

Not that you ever have anything good to say about anything it's not stock looking. I'm not a numbers matching concours correct guy. I just like to keep them as stock looking as i can. A holley Street dominatot and holley carb aren't stock either but with intake painted engine color it still has a stock apperence. I'd be amazed John if i ever saw you say anything positive about anything on here. You allways have to bad mouth or talk down every post.

Posted By: mikemee1331

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/12/12 09:24 PM

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Not that you ever have anything good to say about anything it's not stock looking. I'm not a numbers matching concours correct guy. I just like to keep them as stock looking as i can. A holley Street dominatot and holley carb aren't stock either but with intake painted engine color it still has a stock apperence. I'd be amazed John if i ever saw you say anything positive about anything on here. You allways have to bad mouth or talk down every post.

i don't think that's where he was going with his question. there is a MSD blaster coil that is black and all you have to do is peel off the label and you have 'stock appearing'. my car is far from stock but i do try a little to make thing under the hood sorta stockish.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/13/12 04:01 PM

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You allways have to bad mouth or talk down every post.

Posted By: Dougsmopars

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/13/12 08:27 PM

The black Mopar performence version of the blaster coil is discontinued. I checked every retail outlet i could think of nobody had one left in stock. I wnated one for my car.

Posted By: mikemee1331

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/13/12 08:44 PM

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The black Mopar performence version of the blaster coil is discontinued. I checked every retail outlet i could think of nobody had one left in stock. I wnated one for my car.

this would work nicely - http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Coils/Race/8222_-_High_Vibration_Blaster_Coil.aspx - i'll be getting one in the near future.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Mopar Performance ignition coil - 05/13/12 09:42 PM

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The black Mopar performence version of the blaster coil is discontinued. I checked every retail outlet i could think of nobody had one left in stock. I wnated one for my car.

this would work nicely - http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Coils/Race/8222_-_High_Vibration_Blaster_Coil.aspx - i'll be getting one in the near future.

this is the one I run in the Dart , it wasn't made in china when I bought it many years ago , .... can't remember if I bought it in '05 or '99 ??? .... now ?