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Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85??

Posted By: Hemi_Joel

Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/24/08 02:03 PM

What would be the most compression a guy could run on E85 with out haveing to make compromises like retarding the timing? this would be a 4000 pound street car with 3.54 or 3.73 gears with a Passon 20% overdrive gear in the 4 speed. Specs on the motor:

484 Hemi 4.310 bore x 4.15 stroke
ported iron heads
hydraulic roller cam 226/230 at 542 lift 112 lobe centers
Inline street Hemi intake with AFBs
exhaust manifolds and 2.5" exhaust

Thanks, Joel
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/24/08 02:14 PM

Back when I did my conversion, the research that I did showed that 15:1 was very doable. My 11:1 was considered to be on the low side to take advantage of the octane rating of E-85. My first time down the track with E-85 was within .1 of my very best time on pump gas with no timing change.
Posted By: Silverbullet2

Re: Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/24/08 09:09 PM

What is the octane rating for E85? Did you have to rejet for it?
Posted By: Hemi_Joel

Re: Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/24/08 09:10 PM

WOw, 15 to one is really up there. I don't think I want to go that high. What is the octane rating of E-85

THanks,Joel
Posted By: dodgepu360

Re: Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/24/08 09:14 PM

where can I find more info about converting an old carburated engine over to E-85?
a quick search of the board only turned up this thread

thanks
Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/24/08 09:56 PM

Quote:

where can I find more info about converting an old carburated engine over to E-85?
a quick search of the board only turned up this thread

thanks






Mabe when you do a search you should just put

E85

And make the search for one year as I think default is 1 week. There is a ton if you are willing to do a search. Also google E85 forum, as well as E85 conversion.


https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=4765041&page=0&vc=1



I think one of the members in the race section has 16:1 with E85
Posted By: quickd100

Re: Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/24/08 10:05 PM

I know 15.9-1 has been sucessfully done in a 654ci hemi on E-85. Joel I wouldn't be a bit afraid to try 12.5-13.5-1.
E-85 is rated at 105 octane but has different burn characteristics than gasoline. You also get the cooling effect than alcohol provides. When I ran it in my 440 right after startup, often times my intake manifold would be sweating. Operating temps were about 15-20 degrees cooler than on gasoline. Dave
Posted By: Hemi_Joel

Re: Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/25/08 12:51 AM

Thanks Dave. I think I have most of the parts on hand to assemble a 12.8 to 1 motor. I didn't know if I should use a thicker head gasket to drop the squeeze down a bit. Sounds like I should put it together at 12.8.
Posted By: dogdays

Re: Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/26/08 04:32 PM

I believe one of the magazines supercharged a 13:1 big block chevy on E-85 and it didn't have detonation problems.

R.
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: Maximum compression with a hemi on E-85?? - 10/27/08 11:10 AM

I learned a lot from the info at www.E85forum.com. Lots of good stuff there to help make the right decissions.
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