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Advance cam or not?

Posted By: 440newport

Advance cam or not? - 03/05/12 01:51 AM

I have a Lunati voodoo 60302 in a stock compression 400, it's in a heavy 73 New Yorker with 2.76 gears.

The motor has been in the car a couple of years now and runs pretty good for what it is but as you can imagine I could use more bottom end.

When I degree'd it initially I was coming up with 109. I probably should have have fixed it then but left it at that. It has a cloyes 3 key chain and I was going to advance it 4 degrees, but some say too much advance is not good for a split pattern cam in a low comp motor?

Advancing 4 degrees should put it at about 105. The cam has a 112LSA, compression is about 7.9. Will it make a noticeable difference or is it not recommended?

cam specs
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/05/12 01:58 AM

I would not be afraid to experiment. Do check V/P clearance
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/05/12 02:30 AM

I can offer this; I have a 60303 in a Cuda, 3.55 4 speed. I degreed it and installed at 106.5. Powerband came on at 2000. Had to drop the pan so decided to experiment. Advanced it 2 degrees (did not "re-degree" it with a wheel though). SLIGHT reduction in the usable powerband, begins at 1900 now.

In your case I would advance 4 degrees, and expect a noticeable improvement.
Posted By: cdstl

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/05/12 03:07 AM

After advancing a cam 4 degrees do you still set the timing at say 34 or 36 total? I have a 340.

Thanks
Posted By: Dodgem

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/05/12 04:34 AM

Cam timing and ignition timing are seperate and you use the same as before. If you leave the dizzy in when you change the timing it has to be adjusted after as it will advance or retard same amount you change the cam.

I use it for a reference last time i did an in car cam advance with my gear drive I had the timing at 38 total! I wanted and set gears to give me 4 more degrees cam advance and after my timing was at 42 perfect I new the cam move was what I wanted in the right direction turned the timing back to 38 and off to the races! Ran 3 to 4 tenths faster made me smile! :-)
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/05/12 04:37 PM

you'd keep the total the same but alter the initial/curve(slots)/springs as the cam will change cyl psi & therefore the pinging point(s)
Posted By: RobX4406

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/05/12 06:17 PM

If you installed it at 109 it's already 3* advanced from the 112 LSA. Now ,you want to advance it another 4 degerees to 7 total. Need to be careful you don't get the exh lobe way out there, it's going to be 119.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/05/12 06:24 PM

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I would not be afraid to experiment. Do check V/P clearance




Good question but if it's 7.9 compression , those piston are about .110 in the hole .
Posted By: lewtot184

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/05/12 06:45 PM

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If you installed it at 109 it's already 3* advanced from the 112 LSA. Now ,you want to advance it another 4 degerees to 7 total. Need to be careful you don't get the exh lobe way out there, it's going to be 119.


good reply. its probably the wrong cam for that combo.
Posted By: 440newport

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/06/12 12:48 AM

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I would not be afraid to experiment. Do check V/P clearance




Good question but if it's 7.9 compression , those piston are about .110 in the hole .




They are 0.091 in the hole. With a 0.039 gasket and 90cc heads it comes out to be 7.9 or so using a calculator from what I remember.
Posted By: 70Cuda383

Re: Advance cam or not? - 03/06/12 01:00 AM

it's already 3 degrees advance from the 112 LSA. I wouldn't go 7. if I had to go that far, I'd just get a new cam.

I would think maybe a 2 degree offset key in the cam might help, but I'm no cam expert.
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